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Re: Lakers Withdraw Offer To Odom
« Reply #150 on: July 25, 2009, 04:31:14 PM »
i mean im not sayin gasol is wack hes dope and he helped the lakers alot
aite amongst rankin where would you put him (best players right now)


but damn doesnt gasol seem a bit overrated?
How so? He's tall, finally gained some muscle, has good footwork, can use either hand, has good range for a big man, rebounds, has a high FG%, and is a good passer. Despite all this he has only been elected to 2 All-Star games and 1 All-NBA Team Third Team.
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Re: Lakers Withdraw Offer To Odom
« Reply #151 on: July 25, 2009, 04:46:55 PM »
Sources: Odom leaning toward signing with Heat

Lamar Odom(notes) is leaning strongly toward accepting the Miami Heatís contract offer and leaving the Los Angeles Lakers, multiple sources with knowledge of the talks said.

Odom has not reached a final decision, the sources said, but there is growing belief he will ultimately return to the Heat unless the Lakers improve their current offer.

ďItís close, but itís not done,Ē said one source.

Lakers officials and Odomís representatives resumed talking after a weeklong standoff that began when Jerry Buss, the teamís owner, withdrew a four-year, $36 million offer that guaranteed $30 million. Sources close to Odom said that while the two sides have since talked, Buss is now offering less than the Lakersí previous proposal.

Odom could sign a five-year, $34 million with the Heat or take a four-year contract that would give him the option to become a free agent in three seasons and seek a more lucrative deal. He also would not have to pay state income tax in Florida.

Odom, who will turn 30 on Nov. 6, played for the Heat during the 2003-04 season Ė the only season in his 10-year career that he didnít spend in Los Angeles Ė and has maintained a good relationship with Dwyane Wade(notes).

Odomís departure would be a huge loss for the Lakers and an unexpected gift for the Western Conferenceís other top contenders. He averaged 11.4 points and 8.2 rebounds last season, and played well during the Lakersí run to the championship despite being bothered by back spasms. The Lakers replaced Trevor Ariza(notes) with Ron Artest(notes) this summer, but Odomís length and versatility made him a difficult matchup off the bench for opposing teams.
      
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Re: Lakers Withdraw Offer To Odom
« Reply #152 on: July 25, 2009, 04:48:17 PM »
^ :'( Don't do it Lamar.
 

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Re: Lakers Withdraw Offer To Odom
« Reply #153 on: July 25, 2009, 04:49:34 PM »
is odom takin any less amount of money by goin wit the heat?
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Re: Lakers Withdraw Offer To Odom
« Reply #154 on: July 25, 2009, 05:08:04 PM »
is odom takin any less amount of money by goin wit the heat?


yes and no. The contract is for less money over a 5 yr period instead of 4 from the Lakers. But the GUARANTEED money is more. The Lakers are only guaranteeing him 3 yrs where he would have 5 from the Heat. ALSO, he wont pay state tax in Miami like he will here. Meaning he will more then likely net more money there.
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Re: Lakers Withdraw Offer To Odom
« Reply #155 on: July 25, 2009, 05:11:25 PM »
is odom takin any less amount of money by goin wit the heat?


yes and no. The contract is for less money over a 5 yr period instead of 4 from the Lakers. But the GUARANTEED money is more. The Lakers are only guaranteeing him 3 yrs where he would have 5 from the Heat. ALSO, he wont pay state tax in Miami like he will here. Meaning he will more then likely net more money there.

He sure as fuck would get an MLE after those 3 years, meaning 42 instead of 34 over a 5 year period. Those state taxes don't make up for that difference. Money is not the reason. He's leaving the current championship team, the biggest market and the glamour of LA for a clear non-contender. Says a lot about how much he likes his teammates, e.g. Kobe.
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Re: Lakers Withdraw Offer To Odom
« Reply #156 on: July 25, 2009, 05:13:10 PM »
thats what im sayin
im tryna find out the real issue of him leavin
was he tryna leave in the season at all?
i mean all of a sudden after he gets his ring, im out? lol




is odom takin any less amount of money by goin wit the heat?


yes and no. The contract is for less money over a 5 yr period instead of 4 from the Lakers. But the GUARANTEED money is more. The Lakers are only guaranteeing him 3 yrs where he would have 5 from the Heat. ALSO, he wont pay state tax in Miami like he will here. Meaning he will more then likely net more money there.

He sure as fuck would get an MLE after those 3 years, meaning 42 instead of 34 over a 5 year period. Those state taxes don't make up for that difference. Money is not the reason. He's leaving the current championship team, the biggest market and the glamour of LA for a clear non-contender. Says a lot about how much he likes his teammates, e.g. Kobe.
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Re: Lakers Withdraw Offer To Odom
« Reply #157 on: July 25, 2009, 05:19:31 PM »
is odom takin any less amount of money by goin wit the heat?


yes and no. The contract is for less money over a 5 yr period instead of 4 from the Lakers. But the GUARANTEED money is more. The Lakers are only guaranteeing him 3 yrs where he would have 5 from the Heat. ALSO, he wont pay state tax in Miami like he will here. Meaning he will more then likely net more money there.

He sure as fuck would get an MLE after those 3 years, meaning 42 instead of 34 over a 5 year period. Those state taxes don't make up for that difference. Money is not the reason. He's leaving the current championship team, the biggest market and the glamour of LA for a clear non-contender. Says a lot about how much he likes his teammates, e.g. Kobe.

Maybe so. My point is that the numbers dont always show exactly what he will be making. State taxes will total out to a very significant amount of money and the Heat contract allows Lamar to be in control of his future after 3 years more then the Laker contract which would put the Lakers in control of his 4th year.  Include the Kobe factor...and that might be enough to push anyone away.
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Re: Lakers Withdraw Offer To Odom
« Reply #158 on: July 25, 2009, 05:25:42 PM »
Duncan is better than Gasol (even tho Pau proved he can be "that" good too, expecially since he's younger and with probably an higher basketball IQ and much room to improve). But what's the point comparing him to Parker, Ginobili or Jefferson? LOL. You guys are hylarious. I said it: if we keep Odom we're even better than last year, so we are the team to beat. Period.

Oh, on a side note..

KOBE > GINOBILI
ARTEST > JEFFERSON
FISHER < PARKER
ODOM > McDYESS

It's really not arguable.

First off, Gasol has proven he can be better then the best power forward of all time? LOL. So PAU= a top 10 player all time in the NBA?? Are you fuckin kidding me??

So.. which part of "Duncan is better than Gasol" did you miss? I wrote that Pau proved he can be "that" good (meaning on Duncan's level). And i'm obviously not comparing their careers. I'm talking about last season: Pau was as good as Duncan.

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He had a worse year then Duncan last year and that was with Duncan having a down year with the injuries.  And higher basketball IQ?!? LOL!!!!  Duncan is arguably the best fundamental basketball player of all time. His basketball IQ along with his skills are what make him one of the best ever. Not his athletisism.  I hate to put a ceiling on someone, but cmon man. You know damn well Gasol will NEVER reach that level.  Greatness is typically evident from the beginning.

First of all having good basketball IQ and having great fundamentals are two different things. That said, Gasol has better fundamentals too. That doesn't make him better than Duncan, tho. Luke Walton has better basketball IQ and fundamentals than LeBron James, is he better than him? No. Duncan is better than Gasol, like i said, and he's a winner, a true leader, a wonderful player, a player who doesn't have up and downs like Gasol. But Gasol can be as good as him at this moment of their careers, and his basketball IQ helped him learning triangle so damn fast, adapting to the NBA style so quickly, and it will probably lead him to be a Duncan-type of player in the next years.

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I said from day one you guys were the team to beat.  NIK is the one who likes to make outrageous claims (and u know it) about the Lakers being head and shoulders above everyone lol. IF you guys get Odom back, i think you are better then last year. IF you dont, you are worse.

LOL we do agree then.

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We unarguable improved and if we stay healthy should be right with the Lakers all year.

You will.

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As for your comparisons lol  For one, Ginobli is a bench player and > ANYone on LA's bench.

Kobe>>> Mason
Artest/ Jefferson (too close to call) I really have to see how Jefferson adapts. He should be a consistent 17-21   ppg guy.
Fisher<<<Parker
Gasol<Duncan
Bynum<McDyess (McDyess is a proven complimentary big man, but Bynum might surpass McDyess throughout the year
Odom<Ginobli (this is made closer then normal due to Ginobli's injuries. If he's healthy, he's an all-star player if the team started him.)

Whatever...
Lakers with Odom > Spurs (& every other fucking team in the League)
Lakers without Odom = everything can happen cause Cavs, Magic, Celtics, Lakers, Spurs & Nuggets will all be on the same level, basically.
 

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Re: Lakers Withdraw Offer To Odom
« Reply #159 on: July 25, 2009, 05:29:06 PM »
is odom takin any less amount of money by goin wit the heat?


yes and no. The contract is for less money over a 5 yr period instead of 4 from the Lakers. But the GUARANTEED money is more. The Lakers are only guaranteeing him 3 yrs where he would have 5 from the Heat. ALSO, he wont pay state tax in Miami like he will here. Meaning he will more then likely net more money there.

He sure as fuck would get an MLE after those 3 years, meaning 42 instead of 34 over a 5 year period. Those state taxes don't make up for that difference. Money is not the reason. He's leaving the current championship team, the biggest market and the glamour of LA for a clear non-contender. Says a lot about how much he likes his teammates, e.g. Kobe.

C'mon man, you really think Kobe is the problem? If he's going to the Heat it's because he wants less pressure and he wants to enjoy staying Florida playing in the East, where it's easier for him to reach the All-Star and where he can basically play point guard. It has nothing to do with Kobe.
 

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Re: Lakers Withdraw Offer To Odom
« Reply #160 on: July 25, 2009, 05:32:28 PM »
Duncan is better than Gasol (even tho Pau proved he can be "that" good too, expecially since he's younger and with probably an higher basketball IQ and much room to improve). But what's the point comparing him to Parker, Ginobili or Jefferson? LOL. You guys are hylarious. I said it: if we keep Odom we're even better than last year, so we are the team to beat. Period.

Oh, on a side note..

KOBE > GINOBILI
ARTEST > JEFFERSON
FISHER < PARKER
ODOM > McDYESS

It's really not arguable.

First off, Gasol has proven he can be better then the best power forward of all time? LOL. So PAU= a top 10 player all time in the NBA?? Are you fuckin kidding me??

So.. which part of "Duncan is better than Gasol" did you miss? I wrote that Pau proved he can be "that" good (meaning on Duncan's level). And i'm obviously not comparing their careers. I'm talking about last season: Pau was as good as Duncan.

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He had a worse year then Duncan last year and that was with Duncan having a down year with the injuries.  And higher basketball IQ?!? LOL!!!!  Duncan is arguably the best fundamental basketball player of all time. His basketball IQ along with his skills are what make him one of the best ever. Not his athletisism.  I hate to put a ceiling on someone, but cmon man. You know damn well Gasol will NEVER reach that level.  Greatness is typically evident from the beginning.

First of all having good basketball IQ and having great fundamentals are two different things. That said, Gasol has better fundamentals too. That doesn't make him better than Duncan, tho. Luke Walton has better basketball IQ and fundamentals than LeBron James, is he better than him? No. Duncan is better than Gasol, like i said, and he's a winner, a true leader, a wonderful player, a player who doesn't have up and downs like Gasol. But Gasol can be as good as him at this moment of their careers, and his basketball IQ helped him learning triangle so damn fast, adapting to the NBA style so quickly, and it will probably lead him to be a Duncan-type of player in the next years.

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I said from day one you guys were the team to beat.  NIK is the one who likes to make outrageous claims (and u know it) about the Lakers being head and shoulders above everyone lol. IF you guys get Odom back, i think you are better then last year. IF you dont, you are worse.

LOL we do agree then.

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We unarguable improved and if we stay healthy should be right with the Lakers all year.

You will.

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As for your comparisons lol  For one, Ginobli is a bench player and > ANYone on LA's bench.

Kobe>>> Mason
Artest/ Jefferson (too close to call) I really have to see how Jefferson adapts. He should be a consistent 17-21   ppg guy.
Fisher<<<Parker
Gasol<Duncan
Bynum<McDyess (McDyess is a proven complimentary big man, but Bynum might surpass McDyess throughout the year
Odom<Ginobli (this is made closer then normal due to Ginobli's injuries. If he's healthy, he's an all-star player if the team started him.)

Whatever...
Lakers with Odom > Spurs (& every other fucking team in the League)
Lakers without Odom = everything can happen cause Cavs, Magic, Celtics, Lakers, Spurs & Nuggets will all be on the same level, basically.

Sorry man. I kind of stopped following you when you said Gasol is better fundamentally then Duncan.  Duncan is arguably the bed fundamental player of all time, at least as a big.  Gasol has a good year last year, no doubt.  Statiscally though he was still not as good as Duncan and thats with Duncan playing less minutes per game, missing some games due to injury, and not getting the easy lay ins that Gasol will get due to Kobe drawing so much attention from the defense.
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Re: Lakers Withdraw Offer To Odom
« Reply #161 on: July 25, 2009, 05:37:08 PM »
^ You have never seen a 15 years old Gasol playing basketball.

Watch this and holla back when you see something similiar done by your man.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/ggrGJFH8xjY" target="_blank" class="new_win">http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/ggrGJFH8xjY</a>

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/7LYOWjzeq6U" target="_blank" class="new_win">http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/7LYOWjzeq6U</a>

And tell me when Duncan managed himself to play that good with another guard/point guard, reading the situations this way, adapting his game to fix this way to an hard system to understand like the triangle, etc..

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/cZSqXZ8D4ns" target="_blank" class="new_win">http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/cZSqXZ8D4ns</a>

You are talking about jumpshots and rebounds only, lol. I'm talking about REAL basketball IQ and REAL fundamentals.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/rLW11MK3c18" target="_blank" class="new_win">http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/rLW11MK3c18</a>
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Re: Lakers Withdraw Offer To Odom
« Reply #162 on: July 25, 2009, 07:04:07 PM »
^ You have never seen a 15 years old Gasol playing basketball.

Watch this and holla back when you see something similiar done by your man.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/ggrGJFH8xjY" target="_blank" class="new_win">http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/ggrGJFH8xjY</a>

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/7LYOWjzeq6U" target="_blank" class="new_win">http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/7LYOWjzeq6U</a>

And tell me when Duncan managed himself to play that good with another guard/point guard, reading the situations this way, adapting his game to fix this way to an hard system to understand like the triangle, etc..

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/cZSqXZ8D4ns" target="_blank" class="new_win">http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/cZSqXZ8D4ns</a>

You are talking about jumpshots and rebounds only, lol. I'm talking about REAL basketball IQ and REAL fundamentals.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/rLW11MK3c18" target="_blank" class="new_win">http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/rLW11MK3c18</a>

i cant see those when Im at work.  Him playing in the triangle means shit. So did Luc Longley and so would make other bigmen if thats the system their team ran.  Duncans nickname is the "Big Fundamental" for a reason. He didnt give HIMself the name lol.  If you think Duncan wouldnt thrive in the triangle as much if not more then any other big man then i dont know what to say to u lol
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Re: Lakers Withdraw Offer To Odom
« Reply #163 on: July 25, 2009, 07:56:18 PM »
is odom takin any less amount of money by goin wit the heat?


yes and no. The contract is for less money over a 5 yr period instead of 4 from the Lakers. But the GUARANTEED money is more. The Lakers are only guaranteeing him 3 yrs where he would have 5 from the Heat. ALSO, he wont pay state tax in Miami like he will here. Meaning he will more then likely net more money there.

He sure as fuck would get an MLE after those 3 years, meaning 42 instead of 34 over a 5 year period. Those state taxes don't make up for that difference. Money is not the reason. He's leaving the current championship team, the biggest market and the glamour of LA for a clear non-contender. Says a lot about how much he likes his teammates, e.g. Kobe.
LOL @ haters like you thinking this has anything to do with Kobe. If Odom really wanted to leave, why didn't he already? Why is he still trying to negotiate with the Lakers? This ain't about Kobe, Florida, or playing in the East. This is about contracts.
 

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Re: Lakers Withdraw Offer To Odom
« Reply #164 on: July 25, 2009, 07:59:17 PM »
thats what im sayin if odom wanted out cuz of kobe wouldnt he try his best to get out and maybe even take a loss, but why would he want to take a loss when some would say kobe or nah fuck that cuz of kobe is why now odom has a ring period lol
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Re: Lakers Withdraw Offer To Odom
« Reply #165 on: July 26, 2009, 01:43:23 AM »
^ You have never seen a 15 years old Gasol playing basketball.

Watch this and holla back when you see something similiar done by your man.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/ggrGJFH8xjY" target="_blank" class="new_win">http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/ggrGJFH8xjY</a>

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/7LYOWjzeq6U" target="_blank" class="new_win">http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/7LYOWjzeq6U</a>

And tell me when Duncan managed himself to play that good with another guard/point guard, reading the situations this way, adapting his game to fix this way to an hard system to understand like the triangle, etc..

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/cZSqXZ8D4ns" target="_blank" class="new_win">http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/cZSqXZ8D4ns</a>

You are talking about jumpshots and rebounds only, lol. I'm talking about REAL basketball IQ and REAL fundamentals.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/rLW11MK3c18" target="_blank" class="new_win">http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/rLW11MK3c18</a>

i cant see those when Im at work.  Him playing in the triangle means shit. So did Luc Longley and so would make other bigmen if thats the system their team ran.  Duncans nickname is the "Big Fundamental" for a reason. He didnt give HIMself the name lol.  If you think Duncan wouldnt thrive in the triangle as much if not more then any other big man then i dont know what to say to u lol

Who cares about Duncan's nickname, lol. Players like Hakeem, Jabbar, even McHale, etc.. they all shit on him if we talk about fundamentals anyway, lol.
 

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Re: Lakers Withdraw Offer To Odom
« Reply #166 on: July 26, 2009, 10:41:20 AM »
Odom will ultimately stay in LA.
 

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Re: Lakers Withdraw Offer To Odom
« Reply #167 on: July 26, 2009, 02:00:22 PM »
lol....im tryna figure out who's making the dumber claims in this thread... 7even or daygo? that's a tough one.
 

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Re: Lakers Withdraw Offer To Odom
« Reply #168 on: July 26, 2009, 07:55:19 PM »
odom would goto any team that offered him a 5 year contract by the looks of it, not cause he hates player X or team Y
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Re: Lakers Withdraw Offer To Odom
« Reply #169 on: July 26, 2009, 09:02:11 PM »
this forum is filled with idiots.


Krasnoe being banned raised the IQ of this forum by 5 points tho
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Re: Lakers Withdraw Offer To Odom
« Reply #170 on: July 26, 2009, 10:08:05 PM »
this forum is filled with idiots.


Krasnoe being banned raised the IQ of this forum by 5 points tho


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Re: Lakers Withdraw Offer To Odom
« Reply #171 on: July 27, 2009, 03:56:05 PM »
The wait could be over by Tuesday

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John Ireland reportedly said on ESPN 710 radio this morning that Lamar Odom would sign with the Lakers sometime in the next couple of days. Ditto the info coming from the Miami Herald, which echoes the time frame I got from the conversations I had over the weekend.

The wait could be over soon.
 

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Re: Lakers Withdraw Offer To Odom
« Reply #172 on: July 30, 2009, 12:08:06 PM »
lol....im tryna figure out who's making the dumber claims in this thread... 7even or daygo? that's a tough one.

Youre an idiot. Claiming that Duncan is more findamentally sound then Gasol? LOL  Even arguing against Antonio only gives Gasol more credit then he deserves on this subject. Then again, what can I expect from delusional Laker fans.  You guys can easily be the stupidest fans in the NBA.  lol
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Re: Lakers Withdraw Offer To Odom
« Reply #173 on: July 30, 2009, 12:10:15 PM »
lol....im tryna figure out who's making the dumber claims in this thread... 7even or daygo? that's a tough one.

Youre an idiot. Claiming that Duncan is more findamentally sound then Gasol? LOL  Even arguing against Antonio only gives Gasol more credit then he deserves on this subject. Then again, what can I expect from delusional Laker fans.  You guys can easily be the stupidest fans in the NBA.  lol



stfu u stupid mutherfucker, u said gasol would be the 5th best player on the spurs....ur opinion is null and void.
 

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Re: Lakers Withdraw Offer To Odom
« Reply #174 on: July 30, 2009, 12:11:39 PM »
Stop dickriding Duncan's dick, man. You get emotional over this shit. How old are you? Gasol have better basketball IQ and fundamentals than Duncan. Duncan is the best player out of the two. Gasol played on Duncan's level last season. Face it.