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Re: Whats so great about Crooked I?
« Reply #25 on: December 28, 2009, 10:41:00 AM »
crooked i is dope but very overrated on this board. making a great album is part of being a great artist, and i frankly don't see much versatility from dude....i can take the karma hit, don't really care, just an opinion....as far as the whole versatility thing, i may be wrong on this seeing how i havent heard EVERY single song of his, so someone give more than one example of him spitting something with sum depth, something other than braggadocios gangsta metaphors and punchlines...
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« Reply #26 on: December 28, 2009, 10:51:44 AM »
LMAO at this mentally disturbed fool comparin Roccet wit Crook..

"if eatin niggas made you obese, i'd be the blob"

You think this is bullshit?  He's just saying he's killed a lot of cats on the mic.

Crooked-I is dope but he has yet to impress on an artist level.  Like, his solo song material is lacking consistency compared to his freestyles.   I doubt his ability to construct a solid album.  There's no doubt he outshines most when put on a track with him but that's only so good.  If he can't take it to the next level than he isn't as great as many want him to be.

But Juice from BWS is straight ass.  Not sure how you can like him though not Crooked.  Juice has had like 3 good songs.

that's real talk! i've said it b4, n im sayin it again - just because ur a dope rapper, dont make u a good artist! Rap is just spittin, somethin u do - if u can do dat, dat doesn't guarantee u any platinum plaques.  LOL, if dat was the case, why G Rap, Chino XL & Canibus always went wood? U still have to learn the most important part of the creative-process of Hip Hop - creatin the music! Ur the dopest nigga of all time, spittin vicious toxic-bars, killin everybody in battles, sure dat's cool - but dat DON't mean shit!! n for dat reason alone, Crooked would probly never get as MTV/Major as he was on that Ashanti-remix.. dude can spit, but dat's it really.

there's only been a handful artists who managed to melt the true HipHop-element together wit big sales - Jay-Z, Biggie Smalls, Eminem - all 3 are really respected lyricists, dat also attracts the whte audience wit GOOD MUSIC.
u ain't never heard a Kool G Rap, Chino XL, Crooked I track, dat sounds "Hit" by "Hit"-standards, n to be honest wit ya, u never will.. most likely.
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« Reply #27 on: December 28, 2009, 10:55:13 AM »
he needs to pick some better beats. words are amazing but beats are weak as fuck.
 

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Re: Whats so great about Crooked I?
« Reply #28 on: December 28, 2009, 11:54:35 AM »
where did all this juice bws shit come from? I just asked a question. WHY do you niggas call him the greatest, he has a bullshit flow and some bullshit ass lines. I dont recall myself saying I was a juice or a bws fan. Some of y'all niggas need to fix your tampon, seems like you got the shit in backwards. and as for bws actually since you mentioned it, Clyde Carson > Crooked, Game > Crooked.
 

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Re: Whats so great about Crooked I?
« Reply #29 on: December 28, 2009, 12:06:39 PM »
Crooked I is definately one of the greatest. His only flaw, IMO is that he uses alot, if not too many metaphors
 

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Re: Whats so great about Crooked I?
« Reply #30 on: December 28, 2009, 12:14:22 PM »
crooked stans are like a cult, nothing they say is without extreme bias and stupidity, just check the posters above me

You are the biggest Crooked I fan I have ever seen. Posters above you dont follow Crooked as much as you do man and sure dont have Crooked in their mouth as often as you do.


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Re: Whats so great about Crooked I?
« Reply #31 on: December 28, 2009, 12:17:12 PM »
LMAO at this mentally disturbed fool comparin Roccet wit Crook..

"if eatin niggas made you obese, i'd be the blob"

You think this is bullshit?  He's just saying he's killed a lot of cats on the mic.

Crooked-I is dope but he has yet to impress on an artist level.  Like, his solo song material is lacking consistency compared to his freestyles.   I doubt his ability to construct a solid album.  There's no doubt he outshines most when put on a track with him but that's only so good.  If he can't take it to the next level than he isn't as great as many want him to be.

But Juice from BWS is straight ass.  Not sure how you can like him though not Crooked.  Juice has had like 3 good songs.

that's real talk! i've said it b4, n im sayin it again - just because ur a dope rapper, dont make u a good artist! Rap is just spittin, somethin u do - if u can do dat, dat doesn't guarantee u any platinum plaques.  LOL, if dat was the case, why G Rap, Chino XL & Canibus always went wood? U still have to learn the most important part of the creative-process of Hip Hop - creatin the music! Ur the dopest nigga of all time, spittin vicious toxic-bars, killin everybody in battles, sure dat's cool - but dat DON't mean shit!! n for dat reason alone, Crooked would probly never get as MTV/Major as he was on that Ashanti-remix.. dude can spit, but dat's it really.

there's only been a handful artists who managed to melt the true HipHop-element together wit big sales - Jay-Z, Biggie Smalls, Eminem - all 3 are really respected lyricists, dat also attracts the whte audience wit GOOD MUSIC.
u ain't never heard a Kool G Rap, Chino XL, Crooked I track, dat sounds "Hit" by "Hit"-standards, n to be honest wit ya, u never will.. most likely.

I wouldn't go far as you have with under appreciating what Crooked does nor would I criticise Canibus of an inability to make a dope album full of songs  - From Whom The Beat Tolls is in fact rather dope.  It really doesn't matter if you're a commercial success or if you manage to capture the "hit" sound of today.   Reks will most likely never be commercial but he makes material that can be rated up with the greats.  

Crooked has yet to impress me as a solo artist.  There's been a few tracks I really enjoy - My Life 2.0, W's Down (probably his best track).  It's just he needs to take his freestyles and turn them into songs.  For example, Fear freestyle has great lines.  He needs to construct various lines into a song, add a dope chorus, and find a dope beat.  Than blam he has a song about hip-hop with dope lines that shit on most artists material.  He just needs to focus that into song creation.  

In my mind if you mixed 50 and Crooked you'd have a legend.  Earlier 50 was essentially this.
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Re: Whats so great about Crooked I?
« Reply #32 on: December 28, 2009, 12:24:15 PM »
crooked i is a dope rapper, end of. he rhymes right on beat and is super lyrical with it. really can't say the same for many rappers putting out music these days.

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Re: Whats so great about Crooked I?
« Reply #33 on: December 28, 2009, 12:46:18 PM »
LMAO at this mentally disturbed fool comparin Roccet wit Crook..

"if eatin niggas made you obese, i'd be the blob"

You think this is bullshit?  He's just saying he's killed a lot of cats on the mic.

Crooked-I is dope but he has yet to impress on an artist level.  Like, his solo song material is lacking consistency compared to his freestyles.   I doubt his ability to construct a solid album.  There's no doubt he outshines most when put on a track with him but that's only so good.  If he can't take it to the next level than he isn't as great as many want him to be.

But Juice from BWS is straight ass.  Not sure how you can like him though not Crooked.  Juice has had like 3 good songs.

that's real talk! i've said it b4, n im sayin it again - just because ur a dope rapper, dont make u a good artist! Rap is just spittin, somethin u do - if u can do dat, dat doesn't guarantee u any platinum plaques.  LOL, if dat was the case, why G Rap, Chino XL & Canibus always went wood? U still have to learn the most important part of the creative-process of Hip Hop - creatin the music! Ur the dopest nigga of all time, spittin vicious toxic-bars, killin everybody in battles, sure dat's cool - but dat DON't mean shit!! n for dat reason alone, Crooked would probly never get as MTV/Major as he was on that Ashanti-remix.. dude can spit, but dat's it really.

there's only been a handful artists who managed to melt the true HipHop-element together wit big sales - Jay-Z, Biggie Smalls, Eminem - all 3 are really respected lyricists, dat also attracts the whte audience wit GOOD MUSIC.
u ain't never heard a Kool G Rap, Chino XL, Crooked I track, dat sounds "Hit" by "Hit"-standards, n to be honest wit ya, u never will.. most likely.

Finally two people with some common sense. Crooked I is a great rapper but a terrible artists. No retail solo album in 10 years speaks for itself.
 

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Re: Whats so great about Crooked I?
« Reply #34 on: December 28, 2009, 12:56:54 PM »
Just for the record, im not saying crooked i is a terrible rapper, not saying he is wack either. what im saying is some of you people make this guy out to be something he is not and he's putting out some music thats not really the way its supposed to be, if he would just sit the fuck down, pick up a pen and make a SONG he would probobly be somewhere, he treats a fucking SONG like a god damn cypher. Maybe if some of you dudes weren't always saying "crookeds the greatest alive" he would realize, hmmmm, maybe the shit Im doing isn't right and we would be getting some good music from him. Music takes time, you cant go through a career doing shit off the top of your head, it shows in the quality
 

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« Reply #35 on: December 28, 2009, 01:11:08 PM »
LMAO at this mentally disturbed fool comparin Roccet wit Crook..

"if eatin niggas made you obese, i'd be the blob"

You think this is bullshit?  He's just saying he's killed a lot of cats on the mic.

Crooked-I is dope but he has yet to impress on an artist level.  Like, his solo song material is lacking consistency compared to his freestyles.   I doubt his ability to construct a solid album.  There's no doubt he outshines most when put on a track with him but that's only so good.  If he can't take it to the next level than he isn't as great as many want him to be.

But Juice from BWS is straight ass.  Not sure how you can like him though not Crooked.  Juice has had like 3 good songs.

that's real talk! i've said it b4, n im sayin it again - just because ur a dope rapper, dont make u a good artist! Rap is just spittin, somethin u do - if u can do dat, dat doesn't guarantee u any platinum plaques.  LOL, if dat was the case, why G Rap, Chino XL & Canibus always went wood? U still have to learn the most important part of the creative-process of Hip Hop - creatin the music! Ur the dopest nigga of all time, spittin vicious toxic-bars, killin everybody in battles, sure dat's cool - but dat DON't mean shit!! n for dat reason alone, Crooked would probly never get as MTV/Major as he was on that Ashanti-remix.. dude can spit, but dat's it really.

there's only been a handful artists who managed to melt the true HipHop-element together wit big sales - Jay-Z, Biggie Smalls, Eminem - all 3 are really respected lyricists, dat also attracts the whte audience wit GOOD MUSIC.
u ain't never heard a Kool G Rap, Chino XL, Crooked I track, dat sounds "Hit" by "Hit"-standards, n to be honest wit ya, u never will.. most likely.

I wouldn't go far as you have with under appreciating what Crooked does nor would I criticise Canibus of an inability to make a dope album full of songs  - From Whom The Beat Tolls is in fact rather dope.  It really doesn't matter if you're a commercial success or if you manage to capture the "hit" sound of today.   Reks will most likely never be commercial but he makes material that can be rated up with the greats.  

Crooked has yet to impress me as a solo artist.  There's been a few tracks I really enjoy - My Life 2.0, W's Down (probably his best track).  It's just he needs to take his freestyles and turn them into songs.  For example, Fear freestyle has great lines.  He needs to construct various lines into a song, add a dope chorus, and find a dope beat.  Than blam he has a song about hip-hop with dope lines that shit on most artists material.  He just needs to focus that into song creation.  

In my mind if you mixed 50 and Crooked you'd have a legend.  Earlier 50 was essentially this.

Canibus is one of my favorite artists - the "Rip the Jacker"-album is a personal favorite.

i would never under apreciate Crooked. Crooked is a tight rapper - but the fact remains, the nigga cant create "music", n for dat reason alone he cant make it wit any big sales..
n when I say "music", i mean "music" acceptable for the audience he's aiming for.. im not attackin any of the "music" he creates, i enjoy alot of it n so does many more..  Slaughterhouse, dats a good look for him, as far as the "respect"-thing goes within the hiphop-community, but u wont see any of those niggaz on a level-scale as of a Drake or a Lil Wayne

n i dont want to hear any examples of one or two "hits" Crooked did. bottomline - the sound identified wit the artist Crooked I, is "street-music", not "mainstream" - it dont matter if the nigga managed to create "acceptable" music once or twice

like i said b4, it's xtremely hard for a hiphop-artist to melt those two types of hiphop-elemnets together sucessfuly - bein a lyrical beast dat can make it on a mainstream-level
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Re: Whats so great about Crooked I?
« Reply #36 on: December 28, 2009, 01:24:16 PM »
where did all this juice bws shit come from? I just asked a question. WHY do you niggas call him the greatest, he has a bullshit flow and some bullshit ass lines. I dont recall myself saying I was a juice or a bws fan. Some of y'all niggas need to fix your tampon, seems like you got the shit in backwards. and as for bws actually since you mentioned it, Clyde Carson > Crooked, Game > Crooked.

Bullshit flow and bullshit lines... That's opinion.

It's all preference.

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Re: Whats so great about Crooked I?
« Reply #37 on: December 28, 2009, 04:32:43 PM »
haha didnt know the game groupies are back....of course under new names...lol
and lol at crooked stans comin from snoops biggest ______ryder
how come we crooked stans but your a regular snoop fan?
lol at clyce or game bein better than game
crooked on his death bed screamin for help but rappin to a verse>>>>>>game, snoop, clyce, juice, and 94% of the rappers left in the game

talk about bein biased...damn groupisim at its finest
why is crooked not dope or people ask whats so great about crooked.....whats so great bout jay, wayne etc...
crooked will CRUSH THEM AND THEIR FAKE GANG BANGIN TIES



I know people really like to take this shit to heart (ex: hack wilson, dont get mad, your who came to mind) when you aren't praising Crookeds music the way alot of people around here do, but on some real shit i dont really see anything special about him. He has a terrible flow, trying to fit as many words into one bar as possible and sometimes they dont rhyme or dont make sense, he has some bullshit punchlines and metaphors that aren't unnecessary (ex: if eatin niggas made you obese, i'd be the blob). I can bump a few of his tracks, nwa, this is how we do this, g'd up and banged out, im so crooked. But after listening to his last e.p's, he does not impress me. I think the reason for this is that he does not take time to write his verses, resorts to doing this shit off the top of his head and it just ends up sounding bad. I want to know what it is yall like so much about him. Challenge my opinion if you wish but do back it up, audio is appreciated.

ps: nigga took some time to write this, if you read it its appreciated. sensible responses are welcomed, shit even bullshit responses


crooked i > all of BWS x 100000
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Re: Whats so great about Crooked I?
« Reply #38 on: December 28, 2009, 05:08:27 PM »
The problem wit westcoast fans is tht they stuck on old artists who don't put out pure fire like they used to. Evn the new cats y'all choose 2 embrace aren't tht good. Imagine hw many of u cats ignored Ras Kass's quartely mixtape? Tht ish is pure fire bt u hav guts to compare no name wannabes to Crook n Ras! IMo therz no one tht comes close to these guys on the west whn it comes to consistency n spittin hard hittin shit everytime. Nipsy, Glasses,Game aint gott nuthin on Crook
 

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Re: Whats so great about Crooked I?
« Reply #39 on: December 28, 2009, 05:13:58 PM »
nuthin crooked was ahead of his time/prime back when he first stepped on the scene and hes gotten better as the years passed by
theres 12 rappers or less that are or might be better than crooked thats it
game, glasses, wayne, snoop, tpain, none of these wack rappers are anywhere that list of 12 rappers
but we talkin to groupies otherwise talent and like you said pure fire cannot be passed on which is what they doin and they tryna say game is better than crooked?
game, mr white soft porn, mr i love dre this week but hate dre next week? lol
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Re: Whats so great about Crooked I?
« Reply #40 on: December 28, 2009, 05:27:49 PM »
crooked stans are like a cult, nothing they say is without extreme bias and stupidity, just check the posters above me

You are truely the king of ironic posts.You gave malice in wonderland an 8.5 out of 10.You said sexual eruption was the auto tune song of the year.When a new terrible snoop song comes out,and eveyone agrees that its trash,you come in the thread and call it hot.
 

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Re: Whats so great about Crooked I?
« Reply #41 on: December 28, 2009, 08:10:36 PM »
All i gotta say is...if crooked i was from pretty much anywhere else he would definitely be on top of the game right up there with snoop, jay z, lil wayne and whoever else thats on top now.
 

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Re: Whats so great about Crooked I?
« Reply #42 on: December 28, 2009, 08:15:50 PM »
see thats whats wrong wit the industry and its wackness
why does it matter where your from to be a bigger rapper or more well known
hes from the westcoast...where the other regions took the muzik that we made big and other regions ran with it and tried to make it theirs...didnt work
and thats one thing bout crooked he reps the west as if he were to die tomorrow...he might not have an album out but hes never sold out like 98% of the rest



All i gotta say is...if crooked i was from pretty much anywhere else he would definitely be on top of the game right up there with snoop, jay z, lil wayne and whoever else thats on top now.
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« Reply #43 on: December 28, 2009, 09:11:18 PM »
crooked stans are like a cult, nothing they say is without extreme bias and stupidity, just check the posters above me

Yes, because you obviously have a right to speak on who's a stan. lol  You could literally put your name and snoop in that sentance and make it about you. The sad part is is would be true, hell lets see if just for fun.


Long Beach Iz Active is snoops bitch a, nothing he can say is without extreme bias and stupidity, just check his post history. He's so stupid, the retard gave him a cookie.


Anyways on topic. His Death Row stuff is what people like the mostly. I mean He can spit and if he could put together a Solo album he would be able to make a solid one.If he got some of the Slaughter House producers, He'd have good tracks to spit over. I mean he can spit together then most average cats, so  I don't see why people think he can't make a good album. Not talking about something on a Classic Level, cause he'd have to really put in a lot of work in order to make that happen. If he made 1 it probably only be like a 7/10 album rating on average.

I mean his topics are sorta limited, to gangsta shit. If he could just spread out his subject matter he'd be a more well rounded rapper instead of just gangsta shit all the time. Listen to the song "Livin N tha hood" apparently he can make a some what deep track but U can still see some of that gangsta shit in it. Anyways yeah, Least the nigga hasn't sold out yet.

Niggaz sellout just to stay in the game. If being in the game means you have to push bullshit, then I'd rather have Crooked I never put out a album. The nigga has a ton of mixtapes, singles, and dope music out for free. I'd take that shit over some commercialized bullshit.
 

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Re: Whats so great about Crooked I?
« Reply #44 on: December 28, 2009, 09:20:11 PM »
I think crooked gained a lot of fans with young boss vol 2 and the hip hop weeklys.

I think hes more well rounded then people give him credit for.Livin n tha hood,my life 1 and 2,if you ever hear me,gangstas holiday,auphelia payne,that song with immortal technique and chino xl,rain drops with sh,that song where he rapped as a white supremicist, etc.
 

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« Reply #45 on: December 28, 2009, 09:25:09 PM »
hes from the coast where gangsta shit is the norm and other rappers do the same shit...why wouldnt he rap wit the gangsta style? lol
sides hes got a gang of meaningful and DEEP songs
snoops deep song put you to sleep...lol
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« Reply #46 on: December 29, 2009, 02:54:45 AM »
crooked stans are like a cult, nothing they say is without extreme bias and stupidity, just check the posters above me


Why can't people just have a discussion without being stans or dickriders?
read the posts and there are honest opinions on Crooked I being made.
u seem obsessed with logging on to dubcc and searching for Crooked I threads to post bullshit.
accept that some people actually think he is talented, clearly you don't, fine ... move on.
 

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Re: Whats so great about Crooked I?
« Reply #47 on: December 29, 2009, 05:19:42 AM »
i never really got into crooked i either.
i see hes a good MC,etc. but some ppl really go crazy over his shit.
if hes that great (am not saying hes a bad rapper or smthng) why is that no record label wanted him and never dropped an album?
 

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« Reply #48 on: December 29, 2009, 08:40:09 AM »
Some comments in this thread make me laugh especially the "He ain't makin' music" one ????????

Everyone has there own opinion on if u like someone but to say he ain't making music or you don't respect him coz he ain't made an album yet is just plain stupidity.
Regardless if its Crooked or some other rapper, i respect anyone who made money and not released anything...

only interested in making platinum plaques...
not respecting street money i have to laugh at that..
 

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« Reply #49 on: December 29, 2009, 08:41:34 AM »
cuz hes not a commercialized rapper...he dont make teenager muzik
he dont make muzik for the rich white people....he makes the rich people come to his shows and makes them buy his muzik
you think crooked doesnt want to release an album?  hes one of the best rappers ever
jus cuz hes great.....doesnt gurantee him a record deal...especially with these industry punks





i never really got into crooked i either.
i see hes a good MC,etc. but some ppl really go crazy over his shit.
if hes that great (am not saying hes a bad rapper or smthng) why is that no record label wanted him and never dropped an album?

damn u still havent logged off...ur hurting everyone with all this wack shit u drop, it hurts more then getting the swine flu
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