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Re: ** DAZ and JD real news Breakdown **
« Reply #15 on: December 05, 2010, 11:11:30 PM »
JD hooked up that whole album with Scott Storch, Jagged Edge, Rick Ross, T.I. and produced some of the tracks and Daz got Cube, Snoop, Kurupt.  Daz decided to promote his indy releases instead of focusing on So So Gangsta so JD gave up and threw in the towel.  Put yourself in JD's shoes, you secured all these acts and producers, and produced for him, and Daz was focused on his indy projects and releasing them when JD was trying to promote him.  You can't establish any buzz or anticipation for an artist who is releasing his own albums.  Also, this was FIVE years ago, why get butt-hurt about it......
 

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« Reply #16 on: December 05, 2010, 11:39:28 PM »
You can't establish any buzz or anticipation for an artist who is releasing his own albums.  
  Why not?
 

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« Reply #17 on: December 06, 2010, 12:19:08 AM »
You can't establish any buzz or anticipation for an artist who is releasing his own albums.  
  Why not?

The market becomes oversaturated.
 

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Re: ** DAZ and JD real news Breakdown **
« Reply #18 on: December 06, 2010, 10:02:49 AM »

Quote from: love33 link=topic=259437.msg2628831#msg2628831 date=129162354

The market becomes oversaturated.
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thats bull and everyone here knows it..........the world can never get enough of  BIG DAZ
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« Reply #19 on: December 06, 2010, 10:48:37 AM »
JD hooked up that whole album with Scott Storch, Jagged Edge, Rick Ross, T.I. and produced some of the tracks and Daz got Cube, Snoop, Kurupt.  Daz decided to promote his indy releases instead of focusing on So So Gangsta so JD gave up and threw in the towel.  Put yourself in JD's shoes, you secured all these acts and producers, and produced for him, and Daz was focused on his indy projects and releasing them when JD was trying to promote him.  You can't establish any buzz or anticipation for an artist who is releasing his own albums.  Also, this was FIVE years ago, why get butt-hurt about it......


that's true tho.  but i still think it was just a ploy for promotion.  i couldn't see Daz just fuckin' around with the So So Def crew like that.  who knows tho, maybe he was gonna get at Dr. Dre, Daz/JD verses Dr. Dre (makes sense).  We can speculate all we want tho, but at tha end of tha day I still believe it was more of a promo thing than a "rise back to fame" thing but u could be right tho, i'd be pretty pissed if I was JD too (but at tha same time it's like why, the more buzz the better but u do make a solid point tho).
 

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« Reply #20 on: December 06, 2010, 11:12:13 AM »
lol at dissin JD.   :laugh:
Jermaine Dupri is a fuckin legend..

JD gave Daz a chance. he believed in him..
remember daz said it himself in an interview, nobody ever gave a fuck about him until JD came n swooped him up..
so whatever happened over there, Daz should be thanful that a distinguished recordlabel like So SO Def even picked his ass up..


 

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Re: ** DAZ and JD real news Breakdown **
« Reply #21 on: December 06, 2010, 08:59:42 PM »

Quote from: love33 link=topic=259437.msg2628831#msg2628831 date=129162354

The market becomes oversaturated.
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thats bull and everyone here knows it..........the world can never get enough of  BIG DAZ
thanks for lettin people in and its not like im the only one in here.. true Daz might have came out and said that in an interview, did they show the check JD wrote em to say that shit. i mean seriously who can trust a grimey ass greeezey fuck like JD he snatched up DAZ up make some songs that would prolly made it, but it wasnt really daz style (still woulda sold) but everytime daz came up with some shit jd didnt wanna do it. so shit went south with the 2. JD made money off him and fucked him. never looked back or even let him in on some paper when it came through, snatched that shit up outta DAZ just like he snatched the childhood right outta Bow wow , U notice that kid dont call him self lil bow wow anymore .. he dropped that shit real quick after JD gotta hold of his ass.. and whys he still tryin to dress DA BRAT up like a little school girl.. Does this fucker have a fetish with little kids or something?
 

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« Reply #22 on: December 06, 2010, 09:14:01 PM »
I dont understand why it is such a big deal that Daz is not a platinum artist anymore. He did that in the mid 90s. He put out music that the majors wanted him to make. Hes past that point in his career, he older now and hes in a position where he can create what he wants freely without any outside influence. He makes that music for himself. Its his right, he doesnt care if you guys dont like it. he knows what he wants and he makes it. Let it be, if you guys dont like the music dont listen. OR better yet, go make something that sounds better.
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« Reply #23 on: December 06, 2010, 09:30:02 PM »
Thank you.  I pray people stop this jibberish in 2011.  Alot of people want to be Immortalized but how can u not be humble to everything after a career like his, especially when your cousin is Snoop Dogg ontop of all of it AND u helped produced on some of MUSIC`S seminal albums, u really cant beat that.  Especially with tha position/status that u have STILL in 2011.
 

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Re: ** DAZ and JD real news Breakdown **
« Reply #24 on: December 06, 2010, 10:26:01 PM »
why is this 5 year old shit being brought back up?

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« Reply #25 on: December 06, 2010, 10:35:03 PM »
I dont understand why it is such a big deal that Daz is not a platinum artist anymore. He did that in the mid 90s. He put out music that the majors wanted him to make. Hes past that point in his career, he older now and hes in a position where he can create what he wants freely without any outside influence. He makes that music for himself. Its his right, he doesnt care if you guys dont like it. he knows what he wants and he makes it. Let it be, if you guys dont like the music dont listen. OR better yet, go make something that sounds better.

It is a big deal.  Daz still has it, and he needs to get out there.  Even on Daz's new shit, he still has the lyrics.  His flow got rough, and sloppy.  He just screams now, rather then flow over the beats.  He's making beats with Frutty Loops, and it sounds like a tan can and the shits getting old.  

Let's break it down for real.  Ok, Daz and JD didn't work out.  Daz is a gangsta, JD is a child molester/greezy ass nigga.  They were going to disagree on things.  They probably sat down and had mad ideas, and when it came time to do it, JD had his own vision.  Daz was reaching for the "club" songs (Party People), etc.  That shit was hot on the radio.  So, JD gets some major producers, and puts out the tracks he wants.  He throws him in a couple of magazines for promo, and that's it.  Shit, Lil' Wayne is on everything now adays, and his shit still sells.  Who cares that Daz put out a few albums before his supposed to be "major" release.  Then Snoop put out that DPG ablum what was just not a good sound.  I knew this would happen because Snoop isn't a good person to manage how an album should be.  His last 3-4 albums had 2-3 good songs on it and the rest trash.  Give Daz some $$, some good producers, fire up a club banger, and he will be back.  The guy knew business back in the 90's and he just got used to this indespendant game and people are buying it.  Mike Dean helped him with his DPG album and that shit was hot.  Him and Mike Dean got on bad term or something, and we don't see him anymore.  Mike's doing Kayne's mastering and shit.  Good for him.  Fred Wreckcould have been a major player, but he said these guys didn't want to pay shit for the beats.  Can't blame him.  So Daz cooks up these tinkertoy beats and it's going no where.

Fuck JD because he could have gave Daz full control and shit would have been hot.  That grimmy midget ain't doing shit anymore.  So don't think he was the jesus to save Daz.

As for Daz, he's not that old.  Dr. Dre is still out there.  We just want to hear some nice beats, and a smooth Daz style.

DAZ take some time, and put out something like the old days.  Throw a few radio songs on there and get some rotation.  Shit, put Snoop on the track, Lil' Wayne, whatever and get your name back out there.  Eminem did it.  Because we ain't done with you, just clean up the mess.
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« Reply #26 on: December 06, 2010, 10:39:46 PM »
why is this 5 year old shit being brought back up?

It ain't just about JD.  Daz needs to step back and do something for his fans.  Yeah he still buy his shit, but give us some old Daz shit.  He kept saying him and Kurupt were listening to Dogg Food and wanted to go back to that level.  That never happended.  If he can't do it, then we are stuck with this same shit album after album.  He can do better, and IF he does, watch his shit sell more.
 

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« Reply #27 on: December 06, 2010, 11:19:52 PM »

As for Daz, he's not that old.  Dr. Dre is still out there.  We just want to hear some nice beats, and a smooth Daz style.


Yeah, I'm pretty sure you want that smooth Daz style.
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« Reply #28 on: December 07, 2010, 03:16:21 PM »
I dont understand why it is such a big deal that Daz is not a platinum artist anymore. He did that in the mid 90s. He put out music that the majors wanted him to make. Hes past that point in his career, he older now and hes in a position where he can create what he wants freely without any outside influence. He makes that music for himself. Its his right, he doesnt care if you guys dont like it. he knows what he wants and he makes it. Let it be, if you guys dont like the music dont listen. OR better yet, go make something that sounds better.

It is a big deal.  Daz still has it, and he needs to get out there.  Even on Daz's new shit, he still has the lyrics.  His flow got rough, and sloppy.  He just screams now, rather then flow over the beats.  He's making beats with Frutty Loops, and it sounds like a tan can and the shits getting old.  

Let's break it down for real.  Ok, Daz and JD didn't work out.  Daz is a gangsta, JD is a child molester/greezy ass nigga.  They were going to disagree on things.  They probably sat down and had mad ideas, and when it came time to do it, JD had his own vision.  Daz was reaching for the "club" songs (Party People), etc.  That shit was hot on the radio.  So, JD gets some major producers, and puts out the tracks he wants.  He throws him in a couple of magazines for promo, and that's it.  Shit, Lil' Wayne is on everything now adays, and his shit still sells.  Who cares that Daz put out a few albums before his supposed to be "major" release.  Then Snoop put out that DPG ablum what was just not a good sound.  I knew this would happen because Snoop isn't a good person to manage how an album should be.  His last 3-4 albums had 2-3 good songs on it and the rest trash.  Give Daz some $$, some good producers, fire up a club banger, and he will be back.  The guy knew business back in the 90's and he just got used to this indespendant game and people are buying it.  Mike Dean helped him with his DPG album and that shit was hot.  Him and Mike Dean got on bad term or something, and we don't see him anymore.  Mike's doing Kayne's mastering and shit.  Good for him.  Fred Wreckcould have been a major player, but he said these guys didn't want to pay shit for the beats.  Can't blame him.  So Daz cooks up these tinkertoy beats and it's going no where.

Fuck JD because he could have gave Daz full control and shit would have been hot.  That grimmy midget ain't doing shit anymore.  So don't think he was the jesus to save Daz.

As for Daz, he's not that old.  Dr. Dre is still out there.  We just want to hear some nice beats, and a smooth Daz style.

DAZ take some time, and put out something like the old days.  Throw a few radio songs on there and get some rotation.  Shit, put Snoop on the track, Lil' Wayne, whatever and get your name back out there.  Eminem did it.  Because we ain't done with you, just clean up the mess.

Dont get it misunderstood. I am not one of the people that think Daz fell off, Nor do I think Hes old. What I said was hes older. Meaning he doesnt need to impress the world and try to outshine all the mainstream people anymore. You said it yourself that you liked his flow on his last few albums and I did as well, I agree that maybe he could spend a little more time on the production end. He has become a bit lazy with that part but like i said, hes still making his money. Now I dont like JD either but I thought the SoSoDef album was really good and I still bump that shit from time to time. So JD was involved, I can get over it. The album was still good.
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Re: ** DAZ and JD real news Breakdown **
« Reply #29 on: December 07, 2010, 03:32:03 PM »
that's probably Daz's best album the so so def album..........and I have listened to most of them.....I guess what Daz needed was a greezy dude behind him oiling up his braids and that is what got Daz to do his good work....cause usually Daz doesn't bring it like that......so maybe JD is a good record producer and made sure daz had a good work enviromnment but then stole all Daz's Royalties and his checks  and then took off on him
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