2003 - ROC Vs Shady/Aftermath

[Pimpdogg]

ROC:
Jay-Z - i would say a GOAT contender
Beans - best thug rapper out
Camron  - still good, dude wanted to go plat badly, congrats
Diplomats - i would say 'prepare to be suprised'
Bleek - he's underated. listen to his debut. recently tearing it up
Freeway - dope
MOP - not really feeling em
Twista - Dope  -  goat speed rapper
Young Chris, Neef, Oschino, Sparks - Boring.  -  young talent. good spitters



Shady/Aftermath:
Em - dope
D-12 - dope, very underated
Dre - LEGENDARY
50 Cent - Dope
Rakim - washed up now
Ice Cube - washed up now
Obie Trice - nice
beast - average
G - Unit - nice


imma say its close but ROC is the key.

how the fuck can you say ice cube and rakim are washed up when you haven't even heard what they are releasing this year? shit give em a chance to release something before you judge em

[bez]

How can you ay d-12 are crap and rakim and cube are washed up.  

[Jome]

Legendary/Dope/Acceptable rappers on Roc-a-fella:
Jay-Z, Beanie Siegel, Twista, M.O.P.,

Legendary/Dope/Acceptable rappers on Aftermath:
Dr.Dre, Eminem, Ice Cube, 50 Cent, Rakim, Proof, G-Unit

Aftermath wins..
However, this doesn't mean that M.O.P, Twista or Jay-Z can't make a better album than the Aftermath lineup..
I can picture M.O.P or Jay-Z making a better album than both d-12 and 50 Cent..



And in the average category:
Memphis Bleek, CamRon, Freeway, Young Chris, Sparks, d12 w.o./Proof/Eminem, Obie Trice, Joe Beast..

^^ These sparkle from time to time, but haven't proved themselves on a higher level, or in CamRon's case.. fallen off.
There's still good hope for Obie Trice, Joe Beast & maybe Sparks and Young Chris.

[S.G.V.]

Legendary/Dope/Acceptable rappers on Roc-a-fella:
Jay-Z, Beanie Siegel, Twista, M.O.P.

Legendary/Dope/Acceptable rappers on Aftermath:
Dr.Dre, Eminem, Ice Cube, The Game, Rakim, Proof, Obie Trice

[One Eyed Willy]

lol at people thinking ice cube and rakim gonna come back with bangaz, its over let it gooooooo. i guarantee obie trice drops a more appealing album than both of these veterans.

why do people bring the term legendary in this topic . im talking about 2003, i am not after a career assessment.

today freeway>ice cube
today llyoyd banks>rakim


d-12 are nice, i dont understand the hate they get i understand the hate for bizzare but the other mc's in d-12 are nice.





this label match up is just too close imo. but a major factor in prefering one label from another is that:

Shady/Aftermath cater for all hip hop listeners

ROC (except for Jay Z) cater for the streets

[D.R.E.-Dogg]

today freeway>ice cube
today llyoyd banks>rakim

I feel for u..

[Adriano]

dump ass question

its AFTERMATH

who else


-Adriano

[Twentytwofifty]

lol at people thinking ice cube and rakim gonna come back with bangaz, its over let it gooooooo. i guarantee obie trice drops a more appealing album than both of these veterans.

today freeway>ice cube
today llyoyd banks>rakim

 

[Entreri117]

lol at people thinking ice cube and rakim gonna come back with bangaz, its over let it gooooooo. i guarantee obie trice drops a more appealing album than both of these veterans.

today freeway>ice cube
today llyoyd banks>rakim

Freeway = WHACK
Lloyd Banks = Decent
Ice Cube = Still Tight
Rakim = Lyrical God

WTF you smokin boy?

[S.G.V.]

today freeway>ice cube
today llyoyd banks>rakim

ur an idiot...how can u even dare say that freeway the fake ghostface is anywhere close to what ice cube is/was?....or this 50 cent foot soldier lloyd banks is anything close to rakim?...ur a scumbag

[STILLDRE IS THE GODFATHER]

in my opinion these 2 crews are gonna battle it this year for best label.


ROC:

Jay-Z
Beans
Camron & Diplomats
Bleek
Freeway
MOP
Twista
Young Chris
Neef
Sparks

anymore? just add on!


Shady/Aftermath:

Em & D-12
Dre
50 Cent
Rakim
Ice Cube???
Horse
Obie Trice

anymore? just add on!



which crew you feeling the most?

dont forget doggystyle theyl have a big year

[Jome]

lol at people thinking ice cube and rakim gonna come back with bangaz, its over let it gooooooo. i guarantee obie trice drops a more appealing album than both of these veterans.

why do people bring the term legendary in this topic . im talking about 2003, i am not after a career assessment.

today freeway>ice cube
today llyoyd banks>rakim

You have a thing or two to learn about hiphop..
If you think Rakim isn't gonna bring heat, then you should just pack you bag..
The Freeway-line is a joke, and the Lloyd Banks-line isn't even a joke.
You got very much to learn about hiphop BEFORE 2002..  

[ZILLA THA GOODFELLA]

I think tha people who judge D-12 as being "crap" have not heard their album, they are speaking on da first single.....If not, then they just dun get what them fools is about.....They're different.....I like that, And they are battle rappers and can serve alot of mufuckas in da game.....personally I can't wait till they drop some new ishh.....





 

[Entreri117]

I think tha people who judge D-12 as being "crap" have not heard their album, they are speaking on da first single.....If not, then they just dun get what them fools is about.....They're different.....I like that, And they are battle rappers and can serve alot of mufuckas in da game.....personally I can't wait till they drop some new ishh.....

I'm feelin that.  I think all the guys in that group are DOPE except for Bizarre...some of his lyrics are just NASTY.

PS: Besides Eminem, Proof is the best battler in there...dude is tight as fuck!

[One Eyed Willy]

ur an idiot...how can u even dare say that freeway the fake ghostface is anywhere close to what ice cube is/was?....or this 50 cent foot soldier lloyd banks is anything close to rakim?...ur a scumbag

lol at you thinking old ice cube gonna bring more heat than fresh freeway. have you heard freeway recently? please, ice cube is a good man but c'mon man, listen to some freeway shit but this time without the hate in your blood, clean your soul man, after that have a bath and then wear some clean clothes. get your mind right player.

as for rakim, ever since he been on aftermath i only heard him on the watcher pt 2 and to be honest i was dissapointed. llyoyd banks has had much better verses than that. im still optimistic about rakim but i aint gonna get all exited for it, imma just wait and see.