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infinite59

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Re: Social Issue 3: What's Ya'll Thoughts On.....
« Reply #25 on: November 29, 2001, 11:22:47 PM »
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Christianity is the religion I am most familiar with, and therefore it's easier to bring up that one.


All the religious clashes is my arguement for the others. Arguments, fights, even wars are started in the name of religion/due to religious differences.


I wish to learn more about other religions. What are some good books to get to enlighten me on others.


Read the biography of Malcolm X by Alex Haley, or watch the movie if you don't like to read, and you'll see the transition of a man from....
1. the son of a Priest
2. to a jive talking young man
3. to an angry, frustrated, violent criminal
4. to a pathetic, worthless, crack attic
5. locked up and loosing his mind
6. Finds the Nation of Islam- Black Muslims
7. Transforms himself into a spiritually enlightened revolutionary, teacher of the people.
8.  Finds true Islam wich is Orthodox Islam, which is for all people white, black, red, yellow, brown.
9.  He establishes an organization to fight for 'Human Rights' the rights of all races and people.
10.  He dies a fullfilled, whole, and peaceful individual, a martyr, dying for what he believed in.  A legend.

As for learning about Buddism, get some books on Krishna conscious.
 

ToNe1904

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Re: Social Issue 3: What's Ya'll Thoughts On.....
« Reply #26 on: December 01, 2001, 01:35:17 AM »
i used tah go to church when i was lil. but thas when momz made me. but we aint into it no more. i think more people these days say they are religious out of fear of being wrong, rather then actual belief. i have a hard time saying, there is no "God". But, im at tha point where...i need to see proof before i believe anything. true there are different thingz that happen that followers of a certain religion would explain as being the doing of God. But there is alwayz an equal argument against it...n most of time...a more logical one. I think that people use their belief in "God" as a comfort more then anything. Its hard for people to admit that, they JUST dont understand everything. so rather then admit that, they jus chalk it up to the doing of god, since god supposedly has a reason for doing everything. True, i dont know ALOT about every religion out there so i cant judge. but from what ive seen so far, that is where i get mah views. i think long ago, tha rules n stories of tha bible an otha such books....were simply a set of rules n fairy tales. used to keep people in line. n im sure it worked well, i mean....it still does for a lotta people. but times change, the world changes....but people still believe religion doesnt. why? EVERYTHING changes, its the only constant. my view now is, people have more power then they think. i believe in a persons ability to do thingz that are out of their explaination....n even seem sumwhat miraculous. People dont give themself enuff credit. Although, part of me wants to believe in a god....i know i will probably never believe in church. its too corrupt. anyone who needs to speak with god should be able to do it themself. One more questionable thing about religion...there are 100'z....1000'z of religions in this world. alot of them follow generally the same mold only using different names. but many are completely different the the others. but they all believe that THEIR religion is what will bring u to heaven....or whereva it is u should go after u die. now....which religion is right? all of them? then whats the point in picking one? Whatever u believe, my thoughts are....as long as it makez u a betta person....then thas wha u need to do. if for sum reason it makes u a betta person to think that therez an invisible frog on yur shoulder....well then damn....believe it. lol
 

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Re: Social Issue 3: What's Ya'll Thoughts On.....
« Reply #27 on: December 01, 2001, 01:41:00 AM »

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Read the biography of Malcolm X by Alex Haley, or watch the movie if you don't like to read, and you'll see the transition of a man from....
1. the son of a Priest
2. to a jive talking young man
3. to an angry, frustrated, violent criminal
4. to a pathetic, worthless, crack attic
5. locked up and loosing his mind
6. Finds the Nation of Islam- Black Muslims
7. Transforms himself into a spiritually enlightened revolutionary, teacher of the people.
8.  Finds true Islam wich is Orthodox Islam, which is for all people white, black, red, yellow, brown.
9.  He establishes an organization to fight for 'Human Rights' the rights of all races and people.
10.  He dies a fullfilled, whole, and peaceful individual, a martyr, dying for what he believed in.  A legend.

As for learning about Buddism, get some books on Krishna conscious.


i have tha biography of malcom x myself, i read in my freshman year of high school. yah, i recomend too. i mean, whether for tha religiouz reasons....or just american history in general. i think therez a lotta misconceptions about malcom x that are shown to be untrue in that book. n thatz a example of religion really being sumthing to turn sum1'z life around. thas a case where i can agree with religion.....
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Re: Social Issue 3: What's Ya'll Thoughts On.....
« Reply #28 on: December 03, 2001, 03:08:12 AM »
Hmm, Islam can be evil because: Well, didn't someone claiming Islam kill 5000 innocents, including other Muslims, and whose actions have led to nearly 200 more deaths of civilians of the country which has sheltered him? Hasn't his action let to the killing of a heroic CIA agent?

Bin Laden is evil, if ever the word was needed. He believes he's doing Allah's work. Well, if he is doing Allah's work, Allah is an asshole, plain and simple.
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Re: Social Issue 3: What's Ya'll Thoughts On.....
« Reply #29 on: December 03, 2001, 05:57:08 AM »
If you insist on calling Islam evil, citing the Sept. 11th trajedy as your proof.....

Then you should also call Christianity evil, for it's role in slavery.  The white man brought bibles to Africa, and perpetually enforced Christianity on slaves in an effort to keep them 'turning the other cheek to oppresion.'

America enslaved Africa in an effort to garner more money and power for the white race, while oppressing individuals considered to be a mere 3/5's human.

The reason many African Americans turn to Islam is because Islam was the religion of their ancestors.  Before their heritage was viscously interupted by slavery, and 'the Christian way of life.'  They were given white names and slave names, and cut off from their previous Islamic culture.

The Taliban sought military action to better the life's of their historically oppressed people, and put them on a level more 'equal' to that of America's.



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Re: Social Issue 3: What's Ya'll Thoughts On.....
« Reply #30 on: December 03, 2001, 07:07:39 AM »
all i got to say to owen is. you still got a lot to learn cause you got a lot of shit twisted
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ToNe1904

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Re: Social Issue 3: What's Ya'll Thoughts On.....
« Reply #31 on: December 03, 2001, 03:06:25 PM »
more people have been killed in the name of Christianity then any other religion regardless...BY FAR. Its not fair to call Islam evil just because of one group that claims it as their religion. If u ask a real muslim, they dont even consider the people resonsible for Sept. 11 as real muslims anyways. No more then any SENSIBLE christian would accept the KKK as real christians. religion or not, therez alwayz crazee people in the world. its the same thing that minorities in this country have been dealing with, with race for years. Having yur race judged by the actions of a few....religion is no different..
 

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« Reply #32 on: December 03, 2001, 05:30:44 PM »

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I even had a goofy ass Mormon friend


You Might Have More Than You Think ;)
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« Reply #33 on: December 03, 2001, 06:12:19 PM »
LOL ^^^
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Re: Social Issue 3: What's Ya'll Thoughts On.....
« Reply #34 on: December 03, 2001, 06:33:32 PM »

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You Might Have More Than You Think ;)


HA!
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