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Conspiracy theories aside, this is a real tragedy. My condolences to all the families involved.
The problem isnt guns. We have many rules and regulations when it comes to guns. Who can buy, when, where, how, everything. Majority who own guns legally own them responsibly. Areas with the most gun crime are areas with the most restrictive gun laws (less people legally owning), thats a fact. We have a culture where about 60 percent of the population thinks its ok to own guns while the other 40 are probably against. You arent going to be able to just take guns out of a society with free choice and guaranteed rights; and more restrictive laws arent going to prohibit law breakers from getting the guns they want.If you wanna look at causes of why this stuff happens, lets look at the real root causes, not the easy to point out ones. The healthcare system (mental health especially), family support/structure, the economy in general (no jobs equal people doing what they have to do to survive).
Watch the mindless sheep become moved by Obama's tears. Nick is not an idiot when there have been so many incidents in the past which did not add up. However regardless this will be used as fresh leverage. Does a car kill people or does the selfish crazed motorist? Does the kniFe kill people? Petrol? wanted to find out why mybe you
If someone is intent on killing, they will, they will acquire a gun from an illegal source, if they can't do it legally, there have been incidents in the passed where a car has been packed full of petrol and used as a weapon, petrol bomb is another easy way of killing people.The question is, ....are you serious? if the media had not made this a talking point, then you wouldn't even be discussing this.
It is simply not plausible to understand events in Connecticut this Friday without having a conversation about guns in a country where more than 84 people a day are killed with guns, and more than twice that number are injured with them.Amid all the column inches and airtime now being devoted to these horrific slayings, though, that elephant in the room will remain affectionately patted, discreetly fed and politely indulged. To claim that "this is not the time" ignores the reality that America has found itself incapable of finding any appropriate time to have this urgent conversation. The victims in Newtown, Connecticut deserve at least that. And these tragedies take place everyday, albeit on a smaller scale.THIS
Quote from: NIKCC on December 14, 2012, 12:36:05 PMthe government is doing everything in its power to instill fear in america so that they can finally take our guns away....either way, sad shit. "In response to the Aurora shootings in July, President Obama was right to suspend the routine campaign rhetoric and play the statesman. Nobody wanted to hear about Mitt Romney's tax records and stimulating the economy on that day. There were other days for electioneering, true, but he was wrong to insist on this:"There are going to be other days for politics. This is a day for prayer and reflection."Yet that "other day" for debating gun laws never came – not at any point in the three months that remained before the election. Even now, right on cue, the president's spokesman, Jay Carney, has intoned the familiar strain that "now is not the time" to talk about gun control.YES. They are really doing everything to take the guns way...
the government is doing everything in its power to instill fear in america so that they can finally take our guns away....either way, sad shit.
No disrespect to Nik, but only an idiot would start claiming conspiracy in the immediate aftermath of something like this (no Dr. Dre)
Norway doesn't ring a bell anyone?
Norway has huge gun control and they had that mass shooting a few years agoits about psycho control, not gun control
Perhaps you should give more of a shit about the congress unanimously voting to allow for the indefinite detention of any american who they deem to be a "terrorist". no judge, no jury, no presentable evidenceDisarming potential victims, is just going to leave the weapons in the hands of criminals and those who would seek to do harm leaving people totally at the mercy of such scum bags.Perhaps you should realise who the bigger enemy is, the crazed individual's (assuming they were crazed) or the systematic disarmament in the face of a system which is becoming less democratic, less free, less justified and more pernicious.
Quote from: virtuoso on December 15, 2012, 07:21:35 AMPerhaps you should give more of a shit about the congress unanimously voting to allow for the indefinite detention of any american who they deem to be a "terrorist". no judge, no jury, no presentable evidenceDisarming potential victims, is just going to leave the weapons in the hands of criminals and those who would seek to do harm leaving people totally at the mercy of such scum bags.Perhaps you should realise who the bigger enemy is, the crazed individual's (assuming they were crazed) or the systematic disarmament in the face of a system which is becoming less democratic, less free, less justified and more pernicious.No bruh, I care more about 20 5-10 year olds slaughtered by a psychopathic, Autistic teenager who was able to buy 3 high powered guns over the counter with ease.And I'll tell you why..Laws are in place to try to prevent stuff like this. If this guy was found ranting about killing people online, or to a friend, or writing letters foretelling his rampage...and he got locked up before he could do it (like a dangerous crazy person should) then those local parents could sleep better at night.Real talk.
Quote from: Do Buy Albums on December 15, 2012, 01:03:32 PMQuote from: virtuoso on December 15, 2012, 07:21:35 AMPerhaps you should give more of a shit about the congress unanimously voting to allow for the indefinite detention of any american who they deem to be a "terrorist". no judge, no jury, no presentable evidenceDisarming potential victims, is just going to leave the weapons in the hands of criminals and those who would seek to do harm leaving people totally at the mercy of such scum bags.Perhaps you should realise who the bigger enemy is, the crazed individual's (assuming they were crazed) or the systematic disarmament in the face of a system which is becoming less democratic, less free, less justified and more pernicious.No bruh, I care more about 20 5-10 year olds slaughtered by a psychopathic, Autistic teenager who was able to buy 3 high powered guns over the counter with ease.And I'll tell you why..Laws are in place to try to prevent stuff like this. If this guy was found ranting about killing people online, or to a friend, or writing letters foretelling his rampage...and he got locked up before he could do it (like a dangerous crazy person should) then those local parents could sleep better at night.Real talk. wtf? he didnt even buy the guns, he stole them from his parents....u have to REGISTER to own a gun, u cant just go into a store and buy one...anyways, u comin off as very ignorant on the matter, so i'd suggest u take a step back and re-assess your thoughts.