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Reasonable Doubt is easily Jay-Z's best album. Anyone disagree?
« on: December 24, 2012, 02:55:23 PM »
Its kinda crazy how far Jay Z has come. I remember first getting into him around Hard Knock Life. People then thought oh Jay is mainstream now he's huge, little did they know he would reach god like status. I've never been a huge Hov fan but I can't hate on his music. He usually comes correct. Ive been through most of his catalogue and I gotta say Reasonable Doubt is still the best thing he ever did and I know most hip hop heads would agree but nowadays with these 90s and 2000s babies growing up never knowing about these classics you never know.

 

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Re: Reasonable Doubt is easily Jay-Z's best album. Anyone disagree?
« Reply #1 on: December 24, 2012, 03:10:36 PM »
the blue print is his best album.
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« Reply #2 on: December 24, 2012, 03:16:25 PM »
fuck Jay Z he's broke & I smoke daily, hit me!



in all seriousness, Reasonable Doubt is overrated.  I fucked with The Dynasty tough tho.  American Gangsta was the chit but i havent heard that in a long time.  In fact i dont even usually listen to Jay's music even tho he's super nice with it (post-Biggie jacking).


I thought BP3 was underrated, like Tha Carter IV it was outta sequence and it coulda been cut down a track or two.  "On To The Next One" shoulda been the Outro for the album if u ask me.  




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« Reply #3 on: December 24, 2012, 03:47:44 PM »
handsdown reasonable doubt



blueprint isnt even CLOSE
 

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Re: Reasonable Doubt is easily Jay-Z's best album. Anyone disagree?
« Reply #5 on: December 24, 2012, 06:31:44 PM »
Reasonable Doubt is the "RAW" all his other albums are "RE-POP"......
 

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« Reply #6 on: December 24, 2012, 06:59:44 PM »
Reasonable Doubt is the "RAW" all his other albums are "RE-POP"......


what makes it the most "raw"?  becuz of the cliche nostalgia that Generation X tags to literally every rapper who started in the 90's Debut?  Or did Jay somehow never match the so-called lyricism and beats since then?  Becuz there's 1000000 reasons why Reasonable Doubt isnt his best and why its just the taggalong thing to say for ppl who like Jay but never really listen to his music like that
 

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Re: Reasonable Doubt is easily Jay-Z's best album. Anyone disagree?
« Reply #7 on: December 24, 2012, 10:31:44 PM »
Yeah, easy lol.
 

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Re: Reasonable Doubt is easily Jay-Z's best album. Anyone disagree?
« Reply #8 on: December 25, 2012, 02:41:48 AM »
In someways I felt In My Lifetime Vol 1 was his best. His first 3 albums are the 3 best of his catalogue in my opinion.
 

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« Reply #9 on: December 25, 2012, 05:03:51 AM »
In someways I felt In My Lifetime Vol 1 was his best. His first 3 albums are the 3 best of his catalogue in my opinion.

yeah its between Vol 1 and Reasonable Doubt... "Where I'm From" is the rawest track Jay ever recorded 8)
 

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Re: Reasonable Doubt is easily Jay-Z's best album. Anyone disagree?
« Reply #10 on: December 25, 2012, 05:41:40 AM »
Reasonable Doubt is the "RAW" all his other albums are "RE-POP"......


what makes it the most "raw"?  becuz of the cliche nostalgia that Generation X tags to literally every rapper who started in the 90's Debut?  Or did Jay somehow never match the so-called lyricism and beats since then?  Becuz there's 1000000 reasons why Reasonable Doubt isnt his best and why its just the taggalong thing to say for ppl who like Jay but never really listen to his music like that
i agree. it's the safe choice for those who haven't heard 'em all. LOL
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« Reply #11 on: December 25, 2012, 10:56:40 AM »
Reasonable doubt and it's not even close.

Jay has a lot of great singles over the years, but his albums mostly suck.
 

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« Reply #12 on: December 25, 2012, 01:11:34 PM »
Reasonable Doubt is the "RAW" all his other albums are "RE-POP"......


what makes it the most "raw"?  becuz of the cliche nostalgia that Generation X tags to literally every rapper who started in the 90's Debut?  Or did Jay somehow never match the so-called lyricism and beats since then?  Becuz there's 1000000 reasons why Reasonable Doubt isnt his best and why its just the taggalong thing to say for ppl who like Jay but never really listen to his music like that
i agree. it's the safe choice for those who haven't heard 'em all. LOL


Exactly.  As soon as somebody says Reasonable Doubt is Jay's best work i have to automatically question their depth of knowledge of the Jiggaman
 

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« Reply #13 on: December 25, 2012, 05:24:21 PM »
I don't need depth knowledge of Jigga to know what REASONABLE DOUBT meant to me. I used to rock that album on cassette when it first came out and still do to this day. My "knowledge" on Jay-Z is probably more then most of his dick riders.

Reasonable Doubt is right up there in my EAST COAST classic album list right beside ILLMATIC, READY TO DIE.... probably even infront of them... Jigga's mistake in my books is dumbing down his lyrics...
 

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« Reply #14 on: December 25, 2012, 07:00:19 PM »
I don't need depth knowledge of Jigga to know what REASONABLE DOUBT meant to me. I used to rock that album on cassette when it first came out and still do to this day. My "knowledge" on Jay-Z is probably more then most of his dick riders.

Reasonable Doubt is right up there in my EAST COAST classic album list right beside ILLMATIC, READY TO DIE.... probably even infront of them... Jigga's mistake in my books is dumbing down his lyrics...


thats cool n all but u still havent said why.  and what do u mean he dumbed down his lyrics?  do u mean he put an extra 15 minutes of air time on his CD to make music that would appeal to a broader audience?
 

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« Reply #15 on: December 25, 2012, 07:08:40 PM »
Reasonable Doubt is the "RAW" all his other albums are "RE-POP"......


what makes it the most "raw"?  becuz of the cliche nostalgia that Generation X tags to literally every rapper who started in the 90's Debut?  Or did Jay somehow never match the so-called lyricism and beats since then?  Becuz there's 1000000 reasons why Reasonable Doubt isnt his best and why its just the taggalong thing to say for ppl who like Jay but never really listen to his music like that
i agree. it's the safe choice for those who haven't heard 'em all. LOL


Exactly.  As soon as somebody says Reasonable Doubt is Jay's best work i have to automatically question their depth of knowledge of the Jiggaman

Every time you post I question your knowledge on life.

You're one of those cats that's butthurt cuz you came up on wack ass music but have to tell yourself it's tight. I actually purchased jiggamans first 6 albums the year they came out. I was in the landscape and understood the context of those albums in a contemporary fashion. I was listening to hip hop at the time some of the all time classics were dropping.

You on the other hand prolly heard reasonable doubt about 13 years after it dropped. There's nothing wrong with that, and props for checking it out. But you're talking way over your head and completely clueless to what you're talking about. You're one of those proud ignorant people who stays losing because you haven't learned to be humble.

90's hiphop>>>>>>>2012 hip hop. U mad?
 

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« Reply #16 on: December 25, 2012, 07:17:18 PM »
wow, wat a pussy. 



i too actually had all of Jigga's album (brought from FYE) when he was on his come up, so I've literally grown up listening to Jay since 97' (wow right).  your age doesnt give u rank Aunt Flo so chill with all of that noise.  I used to argue with my friends at the time (during that era) about who had the better crew between RocAFella, Cash Money, and Ruff Ryders so i whole heartedly reject your deposit. 


and im actually very humble, u just mad becuz u cant articulate your views on HOW Reasonable Doubt is Jay's best album verses me giving u all of the reasons why its not
 

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« Reply #18 on: December 26, 2012, 07:56:07 AM »
so that ONE song makes every other Jay song since then subpar?  gtfoh!
 

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« Reply #20 on: December 26, 2012, 12:55:26 PM »
so then you have no actual real basis for your claim
 

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« Reply #23 on: December 26, 2012, 09:56:25 PM »
there's only 2-3 tracks I like on Reasonable Doubt. That being said, it is his best album lol.

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« Reply #24 on: December 27, 2012, 02:11:59 PM »
the blue print is his best album.

Yeah to me it's blueprint as well, to me the album as a whole just flows better, with vintage production from Bink!, Kanye and Blaze, and tracks like "Song Cry", "Heart of the City" and "Never Change" showing Jigga at his best, displaying a level of depth not really seen on "Reasonable Doubt" in my opinion. Technically "Reasonable Doubt" is probably his best and it definitely has that vintage hip hop feel to it, but I was never a big fan of the Mafioso era of hip hop. "D'Evils" is one of my top 5 Jay tracks though.

Jay has a pretty deep catalogue, I could make an argument for "Blueprint", "Black Album" Reasonable Doubt" or "Volume 1" for his best album.