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Should a civilized society allow Capital Punisment (death) for the Guilty??

Yeah: Kill those *fuckas*
3 (21.4%)
Nope: They are Inhuman. Give them a chance to reform, put 'em in jail
7 (50%)
Uhh..Maybe: Depends on the degree of crime committed
4 (28.6%)

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Re:Death Sentences: Are they JUSTIFIED??
« Reply #25 on: September 07, 2003, 01:24:45 PM »
If you ask me it is complete hypocrisy. If the law is "no-one can kill", then the punishment cannot be a killing. Its stupid. And as for the argument that it prevents crime, america has larger murder rates than most of europe, where the death penalty does not exist. I can understand how people can be extremely angry, but look at some possible falldowns. A case which is close to my heart. A local group of lads from around here were out one night (i know most of these lads personnally) and a fight broke out between two of them after the club. One of them punched the other and he hit the kerb, and died later that night. Even though they were friends and it was a drunken fight, one of them is dead, therefore its murder. Now the lad who did it is not a bad guy, but hes serving time for it. I knew the guy who died because he was a close friends brother, so I understand the pain. But I dont see how taking another life would have been justified.
Now I know there are mass murderers and serial rapists who perhaps deserve nothing less than death, but that is not in our hands to decide.Because that DOES make us as bad as them. Give them life without parole. That way theyll never harm anyone again. And as for those who say that prisoners get soft treatment i say come on, open your eyes. What about that paedo priest who was bounded gagged and beaten to death infront of prison officers and other prisoners by a neo nazi just a few weeks ago? Does that sound like cushy treatment?  Its a very draconian law, the death penalty. I cant think of any "civilised" country that uses it other than america, and look at the state of crime there. I mean what next? Haha, i even saw someone mentioning amputating hands!Jesus...
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« Reply #26 on: September 07, 2003, 03:35:52 PM »
^^ If someone raped and stabbed your mother, video taped it, and played it on public television, you'd probably want them dead.  You, Overseer, and all the rest that are supposedly against the death penalty would change your mind really fucking quick if it happened to you.  I know you want to act like you're above that, but your'e not.


I'm just being real here.  I wish I could forgive people like that, but I can't.  Fuck 'em.  They deserve to die.  It's been like that since the beginning of time, and it will be like that until the end of time.  
 

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Re:Death Sentences: Are they JUSTIFIED??
« Reply #27 on: September 08, 2003, 03:15:41 AM »
^^ If someone raped and stabbed your mother, video taped it, and played it on public television, you'd probably want them dead.  You, Overseer, and all the rest that are supposedly against the death penalty would change your mind really fucking quick if it happened to you.  I know you want to act like you're above that, but your'e not.


I'm just being real here.  I wish I could forgive people like that, but I can't.  Fuck 'em.  They deserve to die.  It's been like that since the beginning of time, and it will be like that until the end of time.  

 Spoken like vintage *Charles Bronson* in death wish... I hope he doen't turn in his coffin when he hears these remarks...RIP...
 
 But not many liked the way he acted in his film back then... he had a lot of critics who blasted his actions... and there are few who'll second that kind of revenge behaviour NOW.. cuz humans r supposed to act with more restraint...
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Re:Death Sentences: Are they JUSTIFIED??
« Reply #28 on: September 08, 2003, 03:07:57 PM »
^^ If someone raped and stabbed your mother, video taped it, and played it on public television, you'd probably want them dead.  You, Overseer, and all the rest that are supposedly against the death penalty would change your mind really fucking quick if it happened to you.  I know you want to act like you're above that, but your'e not.


I'm just being real here.  I wish I could forgive people like that, but I can't.  Fuck 'em.  They deserve to die.  It's been like that since the beginning of time, and it will be like that until the end of time.  

if your brother who happened to be mentally disturbed did that to another woman... would you want him dead?
 

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Re:Death Sentences: Are they JUSTIFIED??
« Reply #29 on: September 08, 2003, 03:41:38 PM »
Yeah, of course id want them dead, and id do it myself, because my mother died when i was fifteen i know the pain of that and if someone was to blame i would have fucked them up badly.

Having said that it's another thing for the law to be capital punishment. It doesnt set the right example. Just because I wanted the guy dead doesnt make it right. Just like him wanting his victim dead didnt justify his actions. The law should lead by example. If I knew the murderer was behind bars, i may not be happy, but we're safe. After all thats the aim of prisons
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Re:Death Sentences: Are they JUSTIFIED??
« Reply #30 on: September 08, 2003, 03:49:28 PM »
if the crime is serve enough then use the death penalty, because it's what the bastard deserves
 

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« Reply #31 on: September 12, 2003, 06:43:09 PM »
We are all humans created equal although life takes us in different directions but there is no human that has the right to take the life of another even if they are doing it for punishment reasons. murder is murder
 

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« Reply #32 on: September 13, 2003, 01:49:04 AM »
We are all humans created equal although life takes us in different directions but there is no human that has the right to take the life of another even if they are doing it for punishment reasons. murder is murder

and that's why a murderer doesn't have the right to live
 

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« Reply #33 on: September 13, 2003, 05:07:51 PM »
In that case you think they gotta kill the executioner too?
 

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« Reply #34 on: September 14, 2003, 01:21:40 AM »
In that case you think they gotta kill the executioner too?

Of course not.
 

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Re:Death Sentences: Are they JUSTIFIED??
« Reply #35 on: September 26, 2003, 02:42:06 AM »
We are all human beings isn't that a good enough reason for peace?
 

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« Reply #36 on: September 28, 2003, 03:24:11 PM »
We are all humans created equal although life takes us in different directions but there is no human that has the right to take the life of another even if they are doing it for punishment reasons. murder is murder

and that's why a murderer doesn't have the right to live


In that case you think they gotta kill the executioner too?

Of course not.

execution is murder
 

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Re:Death Sentences: Are they JUSTIFIED??
« Reply #37 on: September 29, 2003, 09:11:58 AM »
No, it's not. If execution's murder, than prison is a cruel place too.
 

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Re:Death Sentences: Are they JUSTIFIED??
« Reply #38 on: September 29, 2003, 01:39:57 PM »
No, it's not. If execution's murder, than prison is a cruel place too.

Who said prison wasn't a cruel place. Otherwise it wouldn't be considered punishment.