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Atrocities of the last 200 years
« on: July 18, 2004, 04:05:02 PM »
When i think back to the past 200 years many atrocities commited around the world come to mind.

1) Holocaust

2) The ordered Genocide of the Native American people by the U.S. government

3) The Japanese against the Chinese

4) The treatment of U.S. prisoners by Japanese soilders during WW2

5) Japanese Internment camps

I started this thread so the peole on this boared can talk about these atrocities and the others over the past 200 years.
 

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Re: Atrocities of the last 200 years
« Reply #1 on: July 18, 2004, 06:09:18 PM »
The Armenian genocide: 1890 - April 24, 1915

Over 1.5 million Armenians were exterminated by the Turks of the Ottoman Empire, but since America didn't have a hand in helping/fucking up the situation, no one seems to ever care.
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Re: Atrocities of the last 200 years
« Reply #2 on: July 18, 2004, 06:14:25 PM »
The Armenian genocide: 1890 - April 24, 1915

Over 1.5 million Armenians were exterminated by the Turks of the Ottoman Empire, but since America didn't have a hand in helping/fucking up the situation, no one seems to ever care.
I was thinking about putting that one up there but i figured someone would talk about it.  That is definitly one of the worst.
 

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Re: Atrocities of the last 200 years
« Reply #3 on: July 18, 2004, 06:27:02 PM »
The funny thing is that the Israeli govt officially does not recognize the Armenian genocide, despite goin thru one themselves. Close ties with Turkey,
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Re: Atrocities of the last 200 years
« Reply #4 on: July 18, 2004, 06:42:59 PM »
chile under the pinochet regime
 

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Re: Atrocities of the last 200 years
« Reply #5 on: July 18, 2004, 06:45:37 PM »

4) The treatment of U.S. prisoners by Japanese soilders during WW2


basically the same thing, the other way around.
+ how regular japanese citizens were treated in the US after pearl harbor.

btw... is that ^what you meant in nr.5 or is it another story again?
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Re: Atrocities of the last 200 years
« Reply #6 on: July 18, 2004, 07:04:15 PM »
The funny thing is that the Israeli govt officially does not recognize the Armenian genocide, despite goin thru one themselves. Close ties with Turkey,

lol. That's really nice of them. Politics and business first I guess.
 

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Re: Atrocities of the last 200 years
« Reply #7 on: July 18, 2004, 07:41:30 PM »

4) The treatment of U.S. prisoners by Japanese soilders during WW2


basically the same thing, the other way around.
+ how regular japanese citizens were treated in the US after pearl harbor.

btw... is that ^what you meant in nr.5 or is it another story again?
Yea thats #5.

You could also add Stalin, who as you know, killed millions more then hitler. surprisingly though, is less known.
 

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Re: Atrocities of the last 200 years
« Reply #8 on: July 18, 2004, 08:33:36 PM »
Possibly because it can be argued that Hitler killed millions while destroyiing Germany while Stalin killed millions while building the Soviet Union. Plus, pr-wise a bunch of dead Cossacks and Central Asians isnt as marketable as a bunch of dead Jews/
"One day Alice came to a fork in the road and saw a Cheshire cat in a tree. "Which road do I take?" she asked. "Where do you want to go?" was his response. "I don't know," Alice answered. "Then," said the cat, "it doesn't matter."

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Re: Atrocities of the last 200 years
« Reply #9 on: July 18, 2004, 08:46:42 PM »
This is on a much smaller scale, and most of yall probably wouldn't have any empathy for it, but the Mormons were persecuted pretty severly by the United States government back in the day.  Joseph Smith was chased out of several states, murdered in jail by a mob,... the Mormons left Illinois late in the season, walking across America... as many as half on those later trips died of pneumonia and starvation, and then the president of the United States sent an army to Salt Lake City to burn the mormon temple down, and kill whoever they found.  That's pretty fuckin' severe.  Brigham Young, the mormon president at the time, buried the temple block and hid all of the members, etc. it was pretty crazy for a while there.  There's a lot of good stories about that trip if you ever look into it, there's this famous story of this man who helped carry the women across the river @ this one particular crossing, and then died of exhaustion as he reached the other bank, etc.

As a matter of fact, the modern notion that Mormons are polygamists arrises from this, because when they arrived in Salt Lake City, so many men had died during the trip, that the remaining men 'married' several wives each so the women would have a home to live in.  Strange solution, but they felt it was a sin to live with a woman you weren't married to. 
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Re: Atrocities of the last 200 years
« Reply #10 on: July 18, 2004, 08:52:52 PM »
Yes, Ive heard of this Mormon trek. But I heard some shady shit went down. B. Young was scheming and Joseph Smith mightve caught it from one of his comrades?
"One day Alice came to a fork in the road and saw a Cheshire cat in a tree. "Which road do I take?" she asked. "Where do you want to go?" was his response. "I don't know," Alice answered. "Then," said the cat, "it doesn't matter."

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Re: Atrocities of the last 200 years
« Reply #11 on: July 18, 2004, 08:58:42 PM »
Possibly because it can be argued that Hitler killed millions while destroyiing Germany while Stalin killed millions while building the Soviet Union. Plus, pr-wise a bunch of dead Cossacks and Central Asians isnt as marketable as a bunch of dead Jews/
yea i agree
 

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Re: Atrocities of the last 200 years
« Reply #12 on: July 18, 2004, 08:59:48 PM »
Slavery was still going on 200 years ago.

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Re: Atrocities of the last 200 years
« Reply #13 on: July 18, 2004, 09:06:59 PM »
the remaining men 'married' several wives each so the women would have a home to live in. 

This was similiar to the justification used for the Prophet Muhamad to have the wives he did. Many of them were widows, etc.
"One day Alice came to a fork in the road and saw a Cheshire cat in a tree. "Which road do I take?" she asked. "Where do you want to go?" was his response. "I don't know," Alice answered. "Then," said the cat, "it doesn't matter."

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Re: Atrocities of the last 200 years
« Reply #14 on: July 18, 2004, 09:09:29 PM »
Yes, Ive heard of this Mormon trek. But I heard some shady shit went down. B. Young was scheming and Joseph Smith mightve caught it from one of his comrades?

Never heard that one before.  Every account I've heard of goes someting like this:

Joseph Smith had been jailed for 'blasphemy' or 'inciting a riot' or something similar (basically to keep his mouth shut).  He was allowed to write, etc. and had several of his 'revelations' while imprisoned.  Eventually, a mob busted the door down and rushed up the steps to the room he was being held prisoner in; his friend (and later 3rd president of the church) held the door shut literally knocking guns out of people's hands while they poked them through the crack in the door... Joseph's last words were "That's right, hold them back as well as you can" and tried to leap from the window of the room to the ground below, was shot before making it out the window, fell and died.  His friend (who's name escapes me) hobbled under the bed and was shot several times, and Joseph's brother was killed as well in the room.  Brigham was a strange cat but he had no involvement in the mob.  
 

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Re: Atrocities of the last 200 years
« Reply #15 on: July 18, 2004, 09:13:53 PM »
I swear I forget where, but I read shady shit went down with Smiths death. Some Sammy the Bullshit goin on, ah well.
"One day Alice came to a fork in the road and saw a Cheshire cat in a tree. "Which road do I take?" she asked. "Where do you want to go?" was his response. "I don't know," Alice answered. "Then," said the cat, "it doesn't matter."

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Re: Atrocities of the last 200 years
« Reply #16 on: July 18, 2004, 09:17:10 PM »
I swear I forget where, but I read shady shit went down with Smiths death. Some Sammy the Bullshit goin on, ah well.

As I said, the Mormons were severly persecuted in the past, and they continue to be on a smaller scale today.  Much of what you read is written by vindicative christians bent on destroying what they see as being a blasphemous religion founded by a false prophet. 
 

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Re: Atrocities of the last 200 years
« Reply #17 on: July 18, 2004, 09:35:56 PM »
I swear I forget where, but I read shady shit went down with Smiths death. Some Sammy the Bullshit goin on, ah well.

As I said, the Mormons were severly persecuted in the past, and they continue to be on a smaller scale today.  Much of what you read is written by vindicative christians bent on destroying what they see as being a blasphemous religion founded by a false prophet. 

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Re: Atrocities of the last 200 years
« Reply #18 on: July 19, 2004, 12:48:27 AM »
Someone mentioned slavery....in many countries below the equator,this still occurs.It's not a thing of the past,unfortunately.
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Re: Atrocities of the last 200 years
« Reply #19 on: July 19, 2004, 08:39:58 AM »
Tragedies of the last 200 years:


-  America dropping a nuke on Japan that murders 70,000.

-  Isreal kicking millions of Palestinians from their land and replacing them with more Jews.

-  Rwanda, South America, Haiti, Liberia, apartied in South Africa, Russia's destruction of the Chechnya and Afganistan, too much to name.
 

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Re: Atrocities of the last 200 years
« Reply #20 on: July 19, 2004, 08:52:16 AM »
what about zimbarway mugarby has killed more black people than apartied ever did and drove or killed the white farmers from their land most of the farms no longer produce anything at all. and opposition groups are persecuted. south africa doesn't do shit about it like most of the other african nations. IMO oppinion the queen should resume power and we can sort him out and then move into a democratic state.
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iraq would just get annexed by iran


That would be a great solution.  If Iran and the majority of Iraqi's are pleased with it, then why shouldn't they do it?
 

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Re: Atrocities of the last 200 years
« Reply #21 on: July 19, 2004, 09:43:20 AM »
-  America dropping a nuke on Japan that murders 70,000.

Wasn't it more like 150,000?
 

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« Reply #22 on: July 19, 2004, 11:49:24 AM »
what about zimbarway mugarby has killed more black people than apartied ever did and drove or killed the white farmers from their land most of the farms no longer produce anything at all. and opposition groups are persecuted. south africa doesn't do shit about it like most of the other african nations. IMO oppinion the queen should resume power and we can sort him out and then move into a democratic state.

Whats happening in Zimbabwe is a spit in the face of justice. However, I wouldnt call it atrocities. Just another example of a fucked up African regime. The continents full of the Mugabe types.
"One day Alice came to a fork in the road and saw a Cheshire cat in a tree. "Which road do I take?" she asked. "Where do you want to go?" was his response. "I don't know," Alice answered. "Then," said the cat, "it doesn't matter."

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Re: Atrocities of the last 200 years
« Reply #23 on: July 19, 2004, 12:15:02 PM »
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-  Rwanda, South America, Haiti, Liberia, apartied in South Africa, Russia's destruction of the Chechnya and Afganistan, too much to name.


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Re: Atrocities of the last 200 years
« Reply #24 on: July 19, 2004, 12:27:36 PM »
-  America dropping a nuke on Japan that murders 70,000.

Wasn't it more like 150,000?
If that nuke wasn't droped many more American lives would have been lost.  That Atrocity seems justified in my eyes.