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djlocskeet

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Crip Founder Tookie Williams. Scheduled to die 12-13-05
« on: October 25, 2005, 01:39:20 PM »
Read this shit on cnn.com today.  Another brother gone if Arnold the Terminator doesn't give him clemency.
 

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Re: Crip Founder Tookie Williams. Scheduled to die 12-13-05
« Reply #1 on: October 25, 2005, 01:42:21 PM »
theres already a thread about this in the train of thought section
 

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Re: Crip Founder Tookie Williams. Scheduled to die 12-13-05
« Reply #2 on: October 25, 2005, 01:53:25 PM »
Damn, he done a lot to turn his life around and give back to the kids.

He smoked three other gangsters so what fuck em they knew what the was in.

Im gonna read up on his two books 'Life in prison' and 'Blue rage and Black redemption'. the others books he did are for kids but those two should be powerful.

Monster kody wrote he used to kick it with him when he was a youth all Tookie had in his house was weights everywhere.

I wonder if 'crips' like Snoop n Dub-C will do tribute songs for him...
 

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Re: Crip Founder Tookie Williams. Scheduled to die 12-13-05
« Reply #3 on: October 25, 2005, 01:54:23 PM »
ahh well
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Re: Crip Founder Tookie Williams. Scheduled to die 12-13-05
« Reply #4 on: October 25, 2005, 02:01:02 PM »

I wonder if 'crips' like Snoop n Dub-C will do tribute songs for him...

most crips of now adays dont know or don't care who he is, plus he was from hoover so most crip niggaz aint gonna show no love to lur
 

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Re: Crip Founder Tookie Williams. Scheduled to die 12-13-05
« Reply #5 on: October 25, 2005, 02:04:50 PM »

I wonder if 'crips' like Snoop n Dub-C will do tribute songs for him...

most crips of now adays dont know or don't care who he is, plus he was from hoover so most crip niggaz aint gonna show no love to lur

Thats a shame after all that money the likes of snoop n dub made from crip walking in videos.
 

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Re: Crip Founder Tookie Williams. Scheduled to die 12-13-05
« Reply #6 on: October 25, 2005, 02:05:12 PM »
wanst there a movie based on his life starring jammie fox??
 

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Re: Crip Founder Tookie Williams. Scheduled to die 12-13-05
« Reply #7 on: October 25, 2005, 02:06:22 PM »
wanst there a movie based on his life starring jammie fox??

yep. Some sort of tv drama apparently.

Heres the real O.G Tookie from back in the day
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djlocskeet

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Re: Crip Founder Tookie Williams. Scheduled to die 12-13-05
« Reply #8 on: October 25, 2005, 02:20:21 PM »
There was no Hoover then he was the Westside Crips general.
 

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Re: Crip Founder Tookie Williams. Scheduled to die 12-13-05
« Reply #9 on: October 25, 2005, 02:29:15 PM »
Tookie interviews :

Stanley Williams co-founded the Los Angeles street organization, the Crips, in 1971 at the age of 17. Eager to get him off the streets, the Los Angeles Police Department charged Stan with four murders. Stan has always maintained his innocence. His conviction was based on circumstantial evidence and the testimony of several witnesses who were felony offenders testifying in order to lessen their sentences. In 1981, Stan was convicted and sent to San Quentin�s death row.

Stanley Williams (center) is surrounded by (l-r) Barbara Becnel, Duane Moody, Minister Farrakhan, and Minister Tony Muhammad.
From death row, Stan embarked on a journey of redemption. He decided to break away from the Crips and speak out against gang violence. He wrote a series of children�s books that discouraged gang activity. He also set up the Internet Project For Street Peace, which encourages gangs to end their fighting. A combination of his many efforts earned him several Nobel Peace Prize nominations.

An appeal has been sent to the Supreme Court. If it is rejected an execution date can be set as early as this summer. An increasing movement continues to work to stay that order against his life and end the unjust application of the death penalty in American courts.

Win the battle with the beast within self

Greetings to all of you. My name is Stanley? Tookie� Williams. I have been residing here on San Quentin�s death row for over 24 years. Indeed, it is an honor to speak to this noteworthy audience today, not with a �holier than thou� sermon, but with a viable message that promotes transition and redemption.

Admittedly back in the day, I used to be my own worst enemy. Oft times, I engaged in personal battles of turmoil. I didn�t know that to restore order with any conflict, be it internal or external, it begins with me.

Being incarcerated, akin to a caged animal, I inevitably had to challenge my existence with this simple self-analysis: Am I a man or a beast? It wasn�t until I was in solitary confinement during 1988 to 1994 when I was able to answer that question.

Gradually, my transformation began to develop through the disciplines of serious soul searching, education, spiritual cultivation, edification and redemption. It was during that critical phase when I discovered my humanity.

Henceforth, I chose the path of inflexible resistance, meaning I refused to allow the animalistic prison conditions, anyone or anything to define who I am. That�s when I knew I was not a beast.

For over a decade, I have developed an understanding that I�ve written and I�m obligated to share with all of you. The legitimacy of war is not with man. The nemesis is the enemy within oneself.

To conquer this personal demon brings life. To be defeated by it evokes death. Those who shy away from this life-altering battle will remain locked in mere conflicts with other men that have no true purpose or spiritual worth.

If a man must fight, let it be to the death against the beast within himself. Win that battle, no man, no woman, no racial hatred, no system, no vindictiveness and no Machiavellianism can ever defeat you.

Today, and forever more, I can honestly say to all of you and to the world that the war within me is over. I�ve battled my demons and I was triumphant.

Without trying to sound preachy, each of you possess the innate ability to transcend these prison walls by virtue of your own positive message to your loved ones in society and/or in prison. Teach them how to avoid our destructive footsteps. Teach them to strive for higher education. Teach them to promote peace and teach them to focus on rebuilding the neighborhoods that you, others and I helped to destroy. As men of honor and integrity, it is our responsibilty to reach out.

In conclusion, may all of you achieve your goals and reclaim your freedom. Moreover, I want to thank Minister Louis Farrakhan and Mr. Roderick Hickman for making this opportunity possible.

Bumani�That�s Swahili for �peace.�

Embrace the science of a social agenda

Greetings to all of you. Before I begin, let us pause for a brief moment of silence for those who have lost their loved ones to senseless violence.

Thank you.

Indeed, this is an honor for me to speak to all of you. My name is Stanley �Tookie� Williams. I have been residing on San Quentin�s death row for over 24 years. I also have the undesirable identity for being the cofounder of the Crips, which today is a genocidal legacy I regret.

Across this nation, countless Black youth and adults are ending up in juvenile halls, youth authorities, prisons and/or being murdered, due to drugs, gangs, crime and violence. Clearly, we, Black folks, have become our own worst enemy. To live nowadays is the greatest challenge you will ever have to face in life.

I say to all of you that we are going backwards, not forwards. Each time we initiate Black-on-Black brutallity, Black-on-Black crime, Black-on-Black drug sales and usage, and other anti-Black acts, we are going backwards and perpetuating our own extinction. It�s time to come anew.

My Brothers, there�s no disguising the social problems. We can no longer allow ourselves to remain victims of the negative conditions. Just as there is a science to boxing, playing basketball, rapping skills, computer technology and parenthood, there is a scientific approach to our problem.

To legitimately survive in this country, we must embrace the science of a social agenda, meaning a plan that will promote better access for all of us to an education, honest employment, health care, affordable housing and spiritual growth; a social agenda that won�t cause harm or death to another Black person.

Such an agenda can be initiated by any one of you.Take a page out of my peace protocol. Learn how to establish community meetings by contacting community leaders, parents, church leaders, local businesses, youth and adult centers, local politicians and other interested parties. Get in touch with local rappers, entertainers, professional athletes and other entrepreneurs-turned-multimillionaires to discuss their participation in helping promote social change. That, my Brothers, is social power.

With that in mind, I call on all of you to unite your thoughts, energy and fortitude on a new battlefield. Therefore, I, Stanley �Tookie� Williams, challenge each of you to stand up against this long war of crime, violence and drugs, to proclaim a new and visionary struggle.

I challenge each of you to discard your anger for wisdom, and to shed the skin of vengeance for peace. I can�t do this alone nor can anyone else. We need all of you.

In conclusion, may all of you develop a united front to address the social dilemmas within your community and across this country. I also want to thank Minister Louis Farrakhan for making this opportunity possible, and other persons. I thank you, my brother.

May the Almighty bless us all.
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Re: Crip Founder Tookie Williams. Scheduled to die 12-13-05
« Reply #10 on: October 25, 2005, 02:35:19 PM »
There was no Hoover then he was the Westside Crips general.

tookie from hoover
 

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Re: Crip Founder Tookie Williams. Scheduled to die 12-13-05
« Reply #11 on: October 25, 2005, 02:52:31 PM »
Fry him....
 

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« Reply #12 on: October 25, 2005, 05:47:02 PM »
Snoop didnt make money from crip walking.
He's not a dancer.
 

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Re: Crip Founder Tookie Williams. Scheduled to die 12-13-05
« Reply #13 on: October 25, 2005, 08:38:18 PM »
i drove by san Q. this weekend.. that sux for him.. 4snitches ratted him out now he gonna die, if he innocent sux .. sux both ways.. cuz he was ratted out ....
 

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Re: Crip Founder Tookie Williams. Scheduled to die 12-13-05
« Reply #14 on: October 25, 2005, 08:47:51 PM »
i always thought the death penalty was a bad idea
i mean the govt is punishiing theses ppl for murdering others and as a punishment they go ahead and murder them.
i understand that its a way to show that what the consequences r for such hatred crime but its just too "eye for an eye"
and i also learned in my psychology class that the death penalty doesnt even work. forgot the specifics but the murder rate doesnt change or some shit in the states wit death penaltys and shit
and the sad case wit this is that this guy has turned his life around. well i guess onli God can judge