My opinion and commentary on the Bay Area Rap scene.....

[R-Tistic]

For everybody who says they don't hear similarities between the bay and the south, here are some songs from Tampa that I said sound very similar to Bay songs.

Ca$hius and Q45 - Tampa Song (Prod. by J Butta)
http://s38.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2BPNBZY4VJQ6J3ODCAXE3CGQ0B
-This track is from 2003. It sounds A LOT, and I mean a LOT like Super Hyphy. Whenever I play Super Hyphy for somebody in Florida, they are like "is that Q45/Cashius song? Oh it ain't? It sounds just like it." Super Hyphy was prolly my favorite song last year, but it took me a while to hear it without thinkin about this track. It also sounds a bit like "Bang it" because of the drum-bass line.

Khia - K-Wang wit it
http://s38.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1QYFYVZSS80ZN0SWQFN33VCN5D
-This track came out in either 2001 or 2002, but I know it got played in every Florida club around 2002. It sounds like Super Hyphy as well...this song is really the one that inspired the previous song that I posted. This is the same girl who did that "My neck, my back" track.

Tampa Tony - Keep Jukin
http://s38.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2X83YXXIFL2PO3EP6D7AUNE4U5
-This track came out in either 2002 or 2003. It sounds a lil bit like Get on my hype to me, but it just has the same vibe as some Hyphy songs.

DSD - Look back at it
http://s37.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3CIAEV4OZ03WD3506MWDKTGVOZ
-I donno when it came out, but I don't think it's too old. It has a similar tempo and vibe to a lotta Bay songs, like "Burn rubber" and The Team "Hot in here"

[Turf Hitta]

if you own any e-40 albums you'll see lil johns beats on them long before lil john was even big....the bay helped them out.
niggas don't think the bay is against the south, just some niggaz steal shyt and act like they don't know where it came from.
even other westcoast niggaz...poppin they collar and fashizzle? the fuckboy know he got that shyt from da yay.
i can't beliive you sat down and actually wrote all this tho...i hope it was also for a class or somthing...
bottom line is nigga out here don't even give a fuck we mashing and the bay gonna blow...bay is gettin money. niggaz sell enough indie records to have the chains and whips niggaz is tryna go platnum for... peace.

E 40 blew up in the South before he blew up in the Bay. The south always had major love for the Bay, and Federal is an example where they gave the Bay love before the Bay gave the Bay love. All this regional shit is goin too far sometimes.

[Realbiggsteele]

man..... stop talking like u know what's up down here and who hates on the bay and whatnot, stupid shit.... 

WHO IS THIS DIRECTED TO? IF ITS FOR ME, I WONT GET INTO ANY CHILDISH COMMENTARY, ESPECIALLY IN A FUCKIN CHATROOM,WHERE I CANT SMACK THE SHIT OUT OF SOMEONE FOR MAKING A DUMB ASS COMMENT. AND I HAVE BEEN ALL UP IN THE BAY, RAY LUV & THEM NIGGAS IS MY FOLKS. I LIVE IN LA, SO DONT START THE BULLSHIT, WE ARE HAVING A CIVIL DISCUSSION, CAN YOU HANDLE THAT?

[Sofa_King_Awesome]

R-Tistic, you made some good points. However, you fail to realize, when the South was underground (the beginning - '97), they checked for Bay Area music, more so than LA. Listen to the Eight Ball & MJG's(Suave House), and early Cash Money. The South was influenced by the West, but heavily more so by the Bay Area scene. Eventually the South coined their own niche/sound, but we ( The Bay) birthed the shit.

[R-Tistic]

R-Tistic, you made some good points. However, you fail to realize, when the South was underground (the beginning - '97), they checked for Bay Area music, more so than LA. Listen to the Eight Ball & MJG's(Suave House), and early Cash Money. The South was influenced by the West, but heavily more so by the Bay Area scene. Eventually the South coined their own niche/sound, but we ( The Bay) birthed the shit.

Yeah I have realized bein down here that many people in the south check for the Bay more so than LA, especially when it comes to artists who aren't on TV. I just see different people, mainly on the net, who are from the Bay that seem to feel the south hates on them too, and they hate bein seen in the same categories as the south and all that. The South's overall sound did evolve from a lot of 80s Bay rap, and some of the 80s Bay rap came from the midwest funk sound which evolved from the 60s and 70s down south and midwest soul music. So everything evolves and goes in cycles.

[Sir Petey]

Im gonna be straight up real with yall...untill the internet was around people didnt really seperate LA and bay area rap...
It was all cali or westcoast, I remember thought hearing artistst representing the bay early in the 90's(spice 1, E40 richie rich etc)  and noticed a few distinct differences mainly that the beats were alot thicker with the mobbed out baselines and the 808 style production and they used alot of lingo that I wasnt yet up on...Polotics eventually took to play when LA radio stations werent playing up and coming bay area artists and it seemed like all the sudden late 90's its two whole seperate genres of music.

I think if we could get rid of that segregated mentality westcoast hip hop would be dominant again.

[SGV]

http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=101512.0

Kill all the Bay Vs. L.A. noise.

[Turf Hitta]

Im gonna be straight up real with yall...untill the internet was around people didnt really seperate LA and bay area rap...

treal spill my friend

[R-Tistic]

Im gonna be straight up real with yall...untill the internet was around people didnt really seperate LA and bay area rap...

treal spill my friend

That could be the case, but I don't really know. I grew up all years before college in LA, and I never really went to the bay to kick it like that and I only met people from there on different high school trips. I never really saw the Bay as bein separate, I just knew they had a different sound that everybody in LA that I knew still fucked with just as hard. I didn't even know there was tension between the Bay and LA until I got to college, and my first year here, it seemed like there were several people from The Bay who didn't get along with several people from LA. It usually didn't involve the music though, it was more about culture. But now, it seems like most younger people from LA, at least the college aged ones, love most new Bay music, and the older heads love the older bay music. The younger ones who aren't in college don't know too much about what they got goin on, aside from those who use the internet.

[OP]

LA rap>Bay rap IMO. But I can see why there is resentment in the bay. They really need there props. Shit is on a diffrent level up there.

[Turf Hitta]

The reason there is resentment in the Bay is because the Bay feels underappreciated and disrespected by pretty much everywhere else while the Bay slang, trends and style start popping up in various places throughout the map and those places take the credit for it. Personally I dont care nothin about all the bay vs the world shit. i would like to see these artists out here get some recognition cause in all honesty I think we got the best rap music period, but its not somethin i'm gonna have bad feelings for nobody over. I love LA, the South AND the East Coast and I got major love in each of those places from damn near everybody I came into contact with. nobody was like, "Oh you from the Bay? Fuck the Bay!" lol folks need to just ease up a little bit. Rockers and R&B cats and country singers dont give a fuck about where nobody is from, and damn sure aint gonna hate no other region over some fuckin music. Maybe rap is just self destructive by nature.

[WestCoasta]

man..... stop talking like u know what's up down here and who hates on the bay and whatnot, stupid shit.... 

WHO IS THIS DIRECTED TO? IF ITS FOR ME, I WONT GET INTO ANY CHILDISH COMMENTARY, ESPECIALLY IN A FUCKIN CHATROOM,WHERE I CANT SMACK THE SHIT OUT OF SOMEONE FOR MAKING A DUMB ASS COMMENT. AND I HAVE BEEN ALL UP IN THE BAY, RAY LUV & THEM NIGGAS IS MY FOLKS. I LIVE IN LA, SO DONT START THE BULLSHIT, WE ARE HAVING A CIVIL DISCUSSION, CAN YOU HANDLE THAT?

nah man I was talkin to the guy before u who said the Bay had a fuck LA attitude and that LA didn't like the Bay

I agreed with how u addressed him

[Realbiggsteele]

^^^^^My Bad hommie , I was wondering hahahaa
Peace

[Realbiggsteele]

The reason there is resentment in the Bay is because the Bay feels underappreciated and disrespected by pretty much everywhere else while the Bay slang, trends and style start popping up in various places throughout the map and those places take the credit for it. Personally I dont care nothin about all the bay vs the world shit. i would like to see these artists out here get some recognition cause in all honesty I think we got the best rap music period, but its not somethin i'm gonna have bad feelings for nobody over. I love LA, the South AND the East Coast and I got major love in each of those places from damn near everybody I came into contact with. nobody was like, "Oh you from the Bay? Fuck the Bay!" lol folks need to just ease up a little bit. Rockers and R&B cats and country singers dont give a fuck about where nobody is from, and damn sure aint gonna hate no other region over some fuckin music. Maybe rap is just self destructive by nature.

real talk! Rap is some crazy shit, very self destructive!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! specially in America

[marochick510]

Ok i see all yall givin yall lil thoughts and such thangs on tha bay so id juss thought id give yall a prespective cuz i am a BAY REPRESENTA, SOUFSIDE RICHMOND 510 YADADAMEAN ALL DAY.. but now its not like up hea in tha bay we like "Fuck L.A." its juss that we really dont care 2 much about it you feel me..there aint no beef between L.A. and tha Bay, cuz niggas out here fucks wit la..all tha time...we back and fourth 2 LA its nothin..but we feel that since such LA gets so much music exposure..that they have they power 2 at least put us on at least a lil bit..i mean now la is juss now starting 2 support us..Man we been doin this bay shit 4 years this aint nothin new..and wat makes us so different from anybody is that we support our bay artists FIRST..not like most cities where they put the bullshit mainstream artists first..well..as far as the people go nigga  we treat our artists like the source treat Jay-z you feel me..but as far as that MUTHAFUCKA TURF HITTA dat b leavin posts up here nigga you sound stupid as fuck 2 say that even tho E-40 from tha bay he blew up in tha south first, nigga you got life fucked up nigga 40 been blew up out hea blood, nigga movin 200-300,000 units out the trunk of his car..he aint go 2 tha south 2 do dat shit..man wat eva sound you hear 4rm tha bay is wat we actually do, street life man niggas got money out here we head bussas..im sure yall heard about the murder capital of cali! it sure aint LA its lil city called Richmond, dats located in tha bay..but as far as the south now we fucks wit the south cuz they fucks wit us we colaborates on a whole lotta shit..lil jon been fuckin wit us..he see wat we tryinna do..but as far as that crunk shit..no we didnt copy..no they didnt copy us..hyphy and crunk is like cuzins..we been gettin hyphy..hyphy is juss a new word that surfaced like 2 1/2 years ago..hyphy is energy and its also a dance..if you see tha "tell me when 2 go" video that explains everything..i mean but man all we wont out hea is 2 be heard..we tired of people takin our shit and not givin us props..if they was 2 give us our props we would have been on by now but since they wanna do that we gone do it on our own man we gots 2 and its dum ass frustrating 2 see everybody else on tv and we not and 2 kno dat we got major talent..all people gotta do is take tha time 2 listen..man i ask all yall out there MAN  PLEASE SUPPORT OUR BAY ARTISTS give us a chance blood cuz i kno yall tired of dat wack ass shit that the tv plays and tha radios..but its not their fault their juss doin wat their told..but this shit starts wit tha people wants man not wat they want us 2 listen 2 on they real but man if yall wanna holla im moe than happy 2 chop it up yall one time *gone*