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Jamal the WCC spell checker/gay porn reviewer haven't proved anything in this thread, except calling Real American a Polish faggot, and me a chump fruitcake/dumbfuck, I could hire a retard to say the same.
my throat hurts, its hard to swallow, and my body feels like i got a serious ass beating.
Yeah yeah, very funny Jerry, but you still haven't proved that the newspaper had a "contest to see who could portray muslims "most maliciously", which was the point you made of the thread in the first place.. the cartoons are not illegal, some muslims felt insulted by them, life goes on.. and that's the conclusion of this thread.
Date : 2006-02-10Denmark and Jyllands-Posten: The background to a provocationBy Peter Schwarz – World Socialist Web Site The basic lie in the controversy over the caricatures of the Prophet Muhammad published by Danish and European newspapers is the claim that the conflict is between free speech and religious censorship, or between Western enlightenment and Islamic bigotry.The taz newspaper, which has close links to the German Greens, declared the conflict was about reducing the influence of all religions, including Christianity, "to a tolerable measure." In Spiegel.online, Henryk M. Broder condemned the halfhearted apology made by the publishers of the Danish daily Jyllands-Posten, which unleashed the caricature controversy, as an "example of how democratic public opinion capitulates to a totalitarian standpoint."An examination of the prevailing political conditions in Denmark reveals how bogus such arguments are. One would be hard pressed to find another European country where political changes over the past few years have found such a clear—and repellent—expression.In a country renowned for its tolerance and openness, the social crisis and the betrayals carried out by the old working class organizations have opened the way for the emergence of political forces which systematically encourage xenophobia and racism. The newspaper Jyllands-Posten has played a prominent role in this process.Last autumn Jyllands-Posten assigned 40 prominent Danish caricaturists to draw the Prophet Muhammad. Twelve responded and the results were published on September 30. The project was deliberately designed to provoke.According to the cultural editor of the newspaper, Flemming Rose, it was aimed at "testing the limits of self-censorship in Danish public opinion" when it comes to Islam and Muslims. He added: "In a secular society, Muslims have to live with the fact of being ridiculed, scoffed at and made to look ridiculous."When the anticipated reaction by the Muslim community failed to arise, the newspaper continued its campaign, determined to create a full-scale scandal. After a week had gone by without protest, journalists turned on Danish Islamic religious leaders who were well known for their fundamentalist views and demanded: "Why don’t you protest?" Eventually, the latter reacted and alerted their co-thinkers in the Middle East.At this point the head of the Danish government, Andres Fogh Rasmussen, and the xenophobic Danish People’s Party, which is part of the ruling coalition, swung into action. Fogh Rasmussen demonstratively turned down appeals by concerned Arab ambassadors for talks to clarify the issue. Even after 22 former Danish ambassadors appealed to the prime minister to hold discussions with the representatives of Islamic states, Rasmussen maintained his stance, arguing that "freedom of the press" could not be a topic for diplomatic discussion.The chairperson of the Danish People’s Party, Pia Kjaersgaard, insulted Danish Muslims who complained about the caricatures, publicly denouncing them as national traitors because they supposedly placed their religious beliefs above free speech.From the start, the campaign had nothing to do with "free speech" and everything to do with the political agenda of the Fogh Rasmussen government, comprising of a coalition of right-wing neo-liberals and conservatives, together with the Danish People’s Party.
i'd like to see another source supporting this article, but the arguments made here are damaging.
The number of caricaturists is wrong when compared to all other medias, and the "Why don’t you protest?" part seems very odd, why is no one else reporting this ??I call socialist BS until proven otherwise, or more credible sources arrive.
ALL RELIGIONS SHOULD BE SUBJECT TO CRITICISM!!!!!
"the true test of an open society is not that all taboo's are fair game for ridicule, but how many taboo's that society can respect".
Quote from: nibs on February 10, 2006, 04:24:00 PM"the true test of an open society is not that all taboo's are fair game for ridicule, but how many taboo's that society can respect".On point.
Quote from: JML - no vowels, disembowel your Colin Powell, throw in the towel on February 10, 2006, 09:32:29 PMQuote from: nibs on February 10, 2006, 04:24:00 PM"the true test of an open society is not that all taboo's are fair game for ridicule, but how many taboo's that society can respect".On point.That isn't on point, it is an incredibly dumb statement. Ridicule isn't intolerance. Intolerance is not allowing people to freely practice their religion, seek converts, etc. Pretty much anything that prevents people from freely doing what they want. Unfortunately, that sums up the situation in the Middle East with the oppression of non-Muslims. Now all of a sudden with these dumb cartoons, Muslims care about religious tolerance? Give me a break. How bigoted can you be?