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Europe's Defamation of the Prophet
J @ M @ L:
Please read the original post in its entirety... or just this excerpt....
--- Quote from: JML - no vowels, disembowel your Colin Powell, throw in the towel on February 08, 2006, 10:35:21 PM ---Under the Danish Constitution, Freedom of Expression is found under section 77. It states:
"Any person shall be at liberty to publish his ideas in print, in writing, and in speech, subject to being held responsible in a court of law".
Under the Responsibility of Media Act (Act no. 348 of June 6, 1991), the author, publisher, and editors are responsible for their actions under the law. AND:
"While carrying out their tasks mass-media should recognize the need to take the individual citizens rights to personal integrity into account and recognize the need of non-infringement without due course".
The updated Media Liability Act of1992 includes sections on Press Ethics entitled: "The National code of Conduct:" adopted by the Danish Parliament. The rules comprise all editorial materials (text and picture) published in the written periodical press...(that) comprise persons mentioned and depicted; including deceased persons...The Code requires that the press publish factual information, especially if susceptible to personal bias or tortuous intention which may be prejudicial or insulting to others.
Additionally, the Danish Penal Code: Section 266b States:
"Any person who publicly or with the intention of dissemination to a wide circle of people makes a statement or imparts other information threatening, insulting, or degrading a group of persons on account of their race, color, or national or ethnic origin, belief" or sexual orientation shall be liable to a fine or imprisonment for a term not exceeding two years."
According to the European Monitoring Centre on Racism and Xenophobia (EUMC):
"The terms "statement or other information" should be interpreted broadly. They cover both oral and written expressions, pictures, "CARICATURES".
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Jome:
^ Yeah, I saw the ones about Denmark, but who else ?
The Danish government officials already explained that they can not apologize on behalf of Jyllands-Posten since they didn't do anything illegal, so I can't see the big deal.
To defame somebody/something, you must deliberately spread slander or libel, in other words false or malicious info/statements, but we're talking about a cartoon here.
J @ M @ L:
--- Quote from: JML - no vowels, disembowel your Colin Powell, throw in the towel on February 09, 2006, 06:45:59 PM ---"Any person who publicly or with the intention of dissemination to a wide circle of people makes a statement or imparts other information threatening, insulting, or degrading a group of persons on account of their race, color, or national or ethnic origin, belief" or sexual orientation shall be liable to a fine or imprisonment for a term not exceeding two years."
According to the European Monitoring Centre on Racism and Xenophobia (EUMC):
"The terms "statement or other information" should be interpreted broadly. They cover both oral and written expressions, pictures, "CARICATURES".
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France also has anti-defamation laws in place.
A French court last week found three writers for Le Monde, as well as the newspaper's publisher, guilty of "racist defamation" against Israel and the Jewish people. In a groundbreaking decision, the Versailles court of appeal ruled that a comment piece published in Le Monde in 2002, "Israel-Palestine: The Cancer," had whipped up anti-Semitic opinion.
The writers of the article, Edgar Morin (a well-known sociologist), Danièle Sallenave (a senior lecturer at Nanterre University) and Sami Nair (a member of the European parliament), as well as Le Monde's publisher, Jean-Marie Colombani, were ordered to pay symbolic damages of one euro to a human-rights group and to the Franco-Israeli association. Le Monde was also ordered to publish a condemnation of the article, which it has yet to do.
So what happened to "freedom of speech" there???
In my opinion, these people are trying to re-establish this notion of a "clash of civilizations" that was witnessed in the Middle Ages... the fact that Muslims responded in the way they did, only helped promote it.
If people still believe that this really has nothing to do with an attack on Islam/Muslims.. they really need to open their eyes. Freedom of speech?
If you think about it, things like this put these countries in the same category as let's say.. Saudi Arabia... before you jump to any conclusions, I'm not saying it's to the same extent or same manner, but I'm using the analogy as way of portraying the concept... the way the government looks upon the people's values. The Saudi Arabian government has this notion that "Islamic values" (which in their country aren't really Islamic to begin with)... are more important than Western values, and they totally disregard the values of the non-Muslims. In the same way, if Muslim values include that the Prophet shouldn't be depicted, especially not in the way that this newspaper did, and these countries are doing it in the name of "freedom of speech", they're putting their values above the values of the Muslims.
Jome:
--- Quote from: Jome on February 09, 2006, 07:55:18 PM ---The Danish government officials already explained that they can not apologize on behalf of Jyllands-Posten since they didn't do anything illegal, so I can't see the big deal.
To defame somebody/something, you must deliberately spread slander or libel, in other words false or malicious info/statements, but we're talking about a cartoon here.
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J @ M @ L:
--- Quote from: JML - no vowels, disembowel your Colin Powell, throw in the towel on February 09, 2006, 08:42:06 PM ---The rules comprise all editorial materials (text and picture) published in the written periodical press...(that) comprise persons mentioned and depicted; including deceased persons...The Code requires that the press publish factual information, especially if susceptible to personal bias or tortuous intention which may be prejudicial or insulting to others.
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--- Quote from: Jome on February 09, 2006, 08:28:40 PM ---The Danish government officials already explained that they can not apologize on behalf of Jyllands-Posten since they didn't do anything illegal, so I can't see the big deal.
To defame somebody/something, you must deliberately spread slander or libel, in other words false or malicious info/statements, but we're talking about a cartoon here
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Cartoons are included in "all editorial materials".
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