It's May 07, 2024, 08:45:40 PM
my throat hurts, its hard to swallow, and my body feels like i got a serious ass beating.
You tried to prove that Europeans did it before the press was invented, when it was in fact taken from the Koran, no wonder you didn't post a link. You're beating a dead horse.
What the hell are you smoking? There are no images in the Qur'an. The Europeans translated the Qur'an and included such images in it. Do you get it?
Illustration depicting a schematized Mohammed from an early medieval Latin translation of the Koran
Medieval and Renaissance Christian and secular artists had no religious restrictions regarding depictions of Mohammed, and were free to show his face and body in their entirety.
The last crusade ended in 1291. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CrusadesThe printing press was invented in the 1450's. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Printing_pressHow could Europe print caricatures/cartoon propaganda to drum up support for the crusades if the printing press hadn't been invented yet?
Year: 1162Illustration depicting a schematized Mohammed from an early medieval Latin translation of the Koran, from a manuscript in la Bibliotheque de l'Arsenal, in Paris. This may be the earliest known depiction of Mohammed, possibly dating from the mid-12th century. This reproduction is from the book Naissance de l'Europe, by Robert S. Lopez (published 1962) (taken from Deux traductions latines du Coran, by Marie-Therese D'Alverny [published 1948]).If you can't prove it, make it up.
Quote from: Jome on February 10, 2006, 09:47:04 AMYou tried to prove that Europeans did it before the press was invented, when it was in fact taken from the Koran, no wonder you didn't post a link. You're beating a dead horse.What the hell are you smoking? There are no images in the Qur'an. The Europeans translated the Qur'an and included such images in it. Do you get it?
The koran is of no interest to me, but since it is to you:QuoteMedieval and Renaissance Christian and secular artists had no religious restrictions regarding depictions of Mohammed, and were free to show his face and body in their entirety. Besides, it happened in 1162... uhhhhh, get over it ? Time to move on ?
On a newer note.... (BLAH BLAH BLAH I GOT SONNED, SO I'M GONNA START TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING ELSE NOW)
Your whole "Europe defames.. anti-Semitic big evil enemy, crusade blah blah" got turned down and rejected, so you went back to 1162 and off-topic, good job Sherlock.I keep shutting down your arguments, and you keep bringing up unrelated shit from centuries ago, you're getting shut down over and over again, then repeat x 5.Muslim leaders are the catalyst behind the whole controversy, hilarious how you skipped that part, I go on-topic while you stray off-topic to escape embarrassment.
On a newer note, an Egyptian newspaper printed the Mohammed caricatures back in October 2005, it obviously wasn't offensive then..UNTIL this Danish Imam managed to shake up the muslim community with his picture book, when he brought the book to a Islam Conference in December 2005:Danish imam Ahmed Akkari, to the left with his picture book, which also includes pictures from a French pig lookalike contest, for unknown(!!??) reasons: "Organisation of the Islamic Conference" (IOC) in December 2005:Why did they make a big deal out it ??There was no interest in the pictures before this meeting, even though the pictures had already been printed in several countries, including one of Egypts biggest newspapers Al Fagr, Islam being the state religion in Egypt, where 90% or more of the population are muslims!!! Al-Fagr, October 17th 2005:It wasn't offensive since it was printed in a muslim country ??You can preach all you want about Europes crusade against Islam, and the root of all evil blah blah, but it was muslim leaders who actually turned the worlds attention to these caricatures, and also turned the attention towards pictures of these pictures of a French pig contest:WTF.If it had not been for these Danish imams, and the Organisation of the Islamic Conference, the world would never even have heard, much less seen, these caricatures.
Keep going back to the crusades in the 11th to 13th century Janal, you still lost the whole thread, now you trying to save crumbles by getting bonus point by going back to the middle age, because you lost the whole main argument and got shut the fuck down, "Europe's defamation of the prophet" turned into be executive directed and orchestrated by muslim leaders in IOC, here's a reminder for your short memory: