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(since everyone else at this forum seems to want to make this an issue and a point of contention, let me state my position that I am an Orthodox Muslim and we don't subscribe to any of the tenets of nationalism, Farrakhan on the other hand, does represent black nationalism. Still, with that being said, Farakhan considers himself a friend and brother to orthodox Muslims all over the world, and therefore many Muslims see him as a brother, even though he does have evident differences in philosophy)
I think a great point of contention is the fact that you're white. I don't see why you'd consider him a "brother" when he'd call you a "blue-eyed devil".
The general consensus amongst most Muslims seems to be that the NOI (as well as the NGE) are not recognized as legitimate Muslim organizations. You are definitely one of the exceptions.
Farrakhan seems like an extremely dangerous individual, this notion that he has somehow changed the nation of the islam's doctrine to be "inclusive" is as an absolute joke I believe.
No one is fooled by this idea that this idea that somehow doesnt suddenly absolutely despise white people this has just been a ploy to persuade moderate muslims and blacks who have been resistant to the movement to fully embrace it.
and then of course we have Dr Kambau who is also a well known member of the NOI saying during one of his recent uni lectures
I am neither a member of a fraternal, civic, religious, political, nor social group; nor have I ever been a member of any cult, sect, gang, martial arts clubmilitary group, or any national or international movement of any kind
you see that coupled with the fact that the actions of these members are never denounced by the leadership
farrakhan cannot control what the rappers say, you surely have older ice cube and kam and mc ren albums espousing the older message. "made in america" and "kamnesia" progressively incorporated more elements of the updated beliefs.
Farrakhan seems like an extremely dangerous individual
didn't farrakkhan say he believed that white people were created by an evil scientist?
Quote from: Don Jacob on February 21, 2006, 10:59:13 PMdidn't farrakkhan say he believed that white people were created by an evil scientist?You got to see the deeper psychology in all of this. You can't take everything for face value. Understand their target audience. The Nation of Islam doesn't usually find it's converts at Harvard, they find many of their converts in prison. They are speaking to black men who have had their lives destroyed, black men who are x-gangsta's, drugdealers, and pimps. Now, most people don't give a damn about black criminals, but what's special about Fard Muhammad, Elijah Muhammad, and Farrakhan is that they do give a damn about these black men who have had their lives destroyed. For example, while the rest of the world turned their backs on O.J. Simpson and Micheal Jackson, the Nation of Islam still expressed love and concern for their situation, and they provided excellent security for them while they were going through trials.Those are celebrity examples, but many are people nobody knows and nobody cares about who have found themselves caught up in the system. Now that probably doesn't mean anything to all of you, but there are people out there who do care for the disenfranchised.Have any of ya'll ever dealt with an addict before? If you know anything, you don't tell them they are doing anything wrong, they will lash out at you. They will not accept critisism. However, if you tell an addict, a criminal, or a member of the disenfranchised why he is like he is, and you explain to him the environmental factors (such as 400 years of oppression, slavery, media manipulation of social norms and desires, white ownership of damn near everything) then you might have a chance of getting through to him. Because you will remove the giult from his heart, and you will call him to action against the real source of his misery. Then later, once you have cleaned up his self-image to a manageable level then you can teach him responsibility for his own actions, and insert other beneficial teachings. But initially, you have to teach a struggling man that it isn't all his fault, we don't exist in a vacuum, mankind is inter-connected, their is a rhyme and reason to everything.