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You guys mean to tell me that this song has got you hype for Blood Money? I mean, can they make a song / video and not have 50 in it? Their single is decent, but they couldn't go without puttin 50 in the video. And this song personifies what I figured was gonna be the essence of this album - 50 putting out some harder edged stuff to try to regain some credibility, Mobb exploiting 50's fanbase to try and go platinum. It ain't about dope music, it's about first week sales. Fuck this and all the other so called music that goes this route.And I don't hate G-Unit, I hate wack music. It just so happens that almost everything that comes out of G-Unit is bullshit these days.
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So according to you, no matter what 50 does he is fucked. If he tries to make harder edeged stuff hes trying to save face. If he continues to make poppy stuff he's a sell out destroying hip hop.
second beef i got is, you say its only about 1st week sales. Its a business first and foremost deal with it. What mobb deep are supposed to say fuck making money, i rather keep it real. Fuck outta here.
Your the definition of a hater. I aint a 50 fan but your opinion holds no weight on the discussion b/c your hate is so thick. For christ sakes your getting pissed that 50 was in the video. Big deal its his record lable, g-unit is a crew but you complain about it. Why not complain about Nas always having his crew in his videos back in the day. Or dipset doing the same.
Exactly. But he did that to himself. He went TOO FAR with this pop bullshit. And now he's scrambling trying to regain some credibility. Its exactly what happened to Ja. And how hot is Ja's career right about now? If you don't see the parallel between the two, then you're blind.
OK. So your logic concludes that EVERYBODY should be putting out albums with 50, cuz he's been pushin the most units in the past 4 years. Gotta get that money by any means necessary. Fuck integrity and artistic nature. What will you say if this formula backfires and not only does Mobb not go platinum plus, but alienates their loyal fanbase? Is it still a great business move? FUCK OUTTA HERE. And if you don't know, Mobb has gone Gold numerous times, and has gone platinum as well.
Quote from: Jrome The Damaja on March 19, 2006, 02:15:06 PMExactly. But he did that to himself. He went TOO FAR with this pop bullshit. And now he's scrambling trying to regain some credibility. Its exactly what happened to Ja. And how hot is Ja's career right about now? If you don't see the parallel between the two, then you're blind. 50's problem is not that he went pop...he was pop from the very beginning. For fuck's sake, he was dueting with Destiny's Child on his first single from "Power of the Dollar". 50's problem (and also Ja's) is oversaturation...he doesn't know how to lay low for a year or two in order to let the public start craving more of his product. All of the most successful rappers in the game (Snoop, Ludacris, Jay-Z, etc.) have had long, stable careers because they know how to time their releases and their appearances just right, and they manage to find a good balance between pop and street. 50 certainly has a good balance between pop and street, but he just needs learn to stop putting out so much product so soon, and he would be a lot more tolerable. Ja Rule released a new album in which the lead single was always him dueting with J. Lo, R. Kelly, Ashanti, etc. EVERY YEAR - and it was the same damn shit over and over...that's what killed him.Quote from: Jrome The Damaja on March 19, 2006, 02:15:06 PMOK. So your logic concludes that EVERYBODY should be putting out albums with 50, cuz he's been pushin the most units in the past 4 years. Gotta get that money by any means necessary. Fuck integrity and artistic nature. What will you say if this formula backfires and not only does Mobb not go platinum plus, but alienates their loyal fanbase? Is it still a great business move? FUCK OUTTA HERE. And if you don't know, Mobb has gone Gold numerous times, and has gone platinum as well.I hate to say it, but YEAH, you do wanna get that money by any means necesary. It's easy to talk about artistic integrity when you're in the underground and you play to your own little niche amongst the hardcore fans, but it's a lot harder to think that way when you've already done Gold and Platinum sales and you're used to NOT being broke and living in poverty. And unfortunately, whether we wanna accept it or not, times have changed since the days when Mobb Deep could put out a song like "Shook Ones, Part II" or "Quiet Storm" and have a big hit. The East Coast right now is all about 50's over-the-top thug posturing and Kanye's revival of the sped-up soul sample...you wanna eat, THAT is the kinda shit you put out.All I expect from Mobb Deep is that whatever they do, they do it WELL. If they wanna hang with 50 and have groupies crawling all over them in his videos, that's their choice. If they were to decide they wanted to rap about Allah and the Supreme Mathematics (I always wondered why they never did this more, given their Five-Percenter backgrounds) alongside Killah Priest and Brand Nubian, that's also their choice. And if they decide to say fuck 50 and start hanging with Game, Nas, and D-Block and make diss records shouting "G-Unot!", I'd also be fine with that. But whatever they do, I just want to hear good music - and good music isn't dependent upon how "pop" something is. I wasn't happy at first when Snoop signed with No Limit, but I eventually stopped caring because the music spoke for itself - Snoop released some of his best albums since "Doggystyle" on that label ("Da Game Is To Be Sold Not Told" notwithstanding, of course). As far as whether or not being on G-Unit is a good thing for them, I dunno, we'll have to see. But consider this: It was as big a commercial risk for 50 to sign Mobb Deep as it was an artistic risk for Mobb Deep to sign with 50. I mean, think about it - Game leaves, and 50 loses the most profitable rapper on his label besides himself. He could have signed a fresh up-and-coming rapper or group that's getting major rotation on MTV and BET; instead, he signs a pair of washed-up veterans who are still respected in the underground but haven't had a hit single in over five years. And now that 50 has signed them, he's been giving them more priority than any other act on his label - they came after Spider Loc and Olivia, plus he's also got M.O.P., Mase, and Lil Scrappy down with him, yet he puts out their album first. Furthermore, he even puts them on his album's four big single (the "Outta Control" remix) to make sure they get plenty of exposure, and in the process gives them one of their biggest hits ever. Don't you think that's a very good indication that 50 obviously has a lot of respect for Mobb Deep and vice-versa? He's always said they were one of his favorite groups when he was coming up, and that it's like a dream to work with them - and so far, he seems to be dead serious about that.So really, if there's anyone here who's considering artistic integrity right now, it's 50 himself - it was a risk for him to sign Mobb Deep, and yet he's determined to see them have success, even if they're not particularly destined for that.
And Jrome, Mobb Deep has never going platinum. There best selling record was murda muzik and i think that was in the 800,000-900,000 album range. I think Amerikaz Nightmare has just cracked gold but im not even sure about that one. So they were losing exposure.
Quote from: Teflon Tom on March 19, 2006, 04:21:48 PMAnd Jrome, Mobb Deep has never going platinum. There best selling record was murda muzik and i think that was in the 800,000-900,000 album range. I think Amerikaz Nightmare has just cracked gold but im not even sure about that one. So they were losing exposure. "Murda Muzik" was certified Platinum...check the RIAA site. I dunno how much it sold (you can actually get certified Platinum for selling 900,000 copies), but the certification is there to prove it. And "Amerikaz Nightmare" didn't go Gold. But yeah, it's true their popularity declined.
Yea b/c you can get it certified if you ship over a million not actually sell a million.
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