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the poll no-one had the balls to start...
Sikotic™:
Where's the 2Pac option?
TraceOneInfinite:
--- Quote from: Real American on March 22, 2006, 06:38:41 PM ---
Sunnis and Shiites were slaughtering each other long before the US ever invaded Iraq. Quit blaming everything on America.
--- End quote ---
^^^Not true. That's a lie. They have lived peacefully side by side for centuries, with only occasional skirmishes. The United States Occupation is just following the age old war strategy of divide and conquer.
Muslims recognize this trick because this is not the first time it has been used against us. Infact, it's been used many times.
Anyone can go to there local video store and rent the movie "Lawrence of Arabia". It's the story of a British intelligence officer. At the time he went to Arabia to do the devils work; the Arabs were pledging allegiance to the Ottoman Empire that lead the Muslim world from it's headquarters in what is now Turkey. He did the devils handiwork by persauding the bediun tribes who were followers of the Saud family and Shiek Abdul Wahaab that they were Arabs first, and that they needed to fight against the Islamic Khalifah (Ottoman Empire) to become a Nation/state of their own. As a result, today, they are client state of the American and British Empire (what you would call neo-colonialism).
Here are more details into the matter...
If we look historically to relations between Sunni and Shia in Iraq we don't see any ‘Pandora's Box' of tensions. Rather we see both sets of Muslims have always lived together side by side, worshipping in the same mosques and inter-marrying. Despite differences of opinion over some Islamic issues both Sunni and Shia both see themselves and each other as Muslims first. The Western media continually labels mosques and neighbourhoods in Iraq as being either Sunni or Shia. Yet this distinction is a misnomer. A mosque is a House of Allah, and cannot be described as a Sunni or Shia mosque. This is why the attack on Al-Askara mosque was just as upsetting to Sunni as it was to Shia. The Shia Imam Muqtada al-Sadr said after the attack, "My message to the Iraqi people is to stand united and bonded, and not to fall into the Western trap. The West is trying to divide the Iraqi people." During the April 2004 assault on Fallujah, the besieged Sunni city was assisted by Shia and Sunni from across Iraq, who brought medical and food aid for their brothers. They chanted, "No no Sunni, No no Shia, Yes yes Islam". In Baghdad, Sunni and Shia filled the Amm al-Qura mosque, while 200,000 gathered in Baghdad for a demonstration against the assault.
The west likes to cite the Sunni Shia differences as evidence that only a secular solution is the way forward for Iraq. The Library Journal's review of Olivier Roy's mid-nineties book, 'The Failure of Political Islam' echoed the views of many in the West, "...the attempt to create a universal Islamist state is doomed to failure because of the conflicts between Sunni and Shia forms and other ethnic differences in the Islamic world..." However, both Sunni and Shia are Muslim and have more in common with each other than differences. Both agree on the fundamental tenets of the Islamic belief and that the Qur'an and Sunnah are the principle sources of Islamic law. The main Shia school of thought (madhab) is the Jafari one. This was founded by Imam Ja'far as-Sadiq the sixth Shia Imam, who was also the teacher of Imam Abu Hanifa the founder of the largest Sunni madhab.
The political rule of a future Caliphate is neither Sunni nor Shia, rather it is Islamic. The head of state may adopt legislation from many different schools of thought, whether Sunni or Shia. The people will obey these laws as the law of the land. The Head of State however, will not adopt legislation covering personal worships and beliefs unless they have a societal impact such as Zakat. The Caliphate is not a police state that will intrude in to people's homes investigating what beliefs they hold.
The solution to sectarian violence in Iraq is to establish a Caliphate that will unify all Muslims, whether Sunni or Shia, Arab or Kurd. This was outlined by Hizb-ut-Tahrir in Iraq when it organised a unity conference in Baghdad on 4th November 2004, inviting prominent figures from both the Sunni and Shia groups. Mohammed Baqr al-Sadr, uncle of Muqtada al-Sadr declared while under house arrest because of his opposition to Ba'athism and non-Islamic rule in Iraq, "The only thing I have sought in my life is to make the establishment of an Islamic government on earth possible". Before his execution at the hands of Saddam in 1980, he said "It is incumbent on every Muslim...to liberate themselves from this inhuman gang, and to establish a righteous, unique, and honourable rule based on Islam". Muslims in Iraq and elsewhere should heed these words and work together to bring about the "honourable rule based on Islam".
Arkan:
Good to see there's some intelligent and knowledgeble people on this forum. Nibs, Kaseem & Sultan Abdul Hameed, much respect to you all.
Kassem:
well the sunnis and shias did't have beef until the usa invaded iraq,back in kuwait i was living in a persion shia town ,as a sunni growing in that area not one fight or arguent was caused by the different schools.
and about the ottamans they eren't really an islamic khalifa,they were just using the arabs as source of money,in egypt,syria,lebanon arabs were treated as inferior to turks
Arkan:
Yeah bro, of course there was some tension in some areas, but overall that tension was nowhere near what it is today, thanks to Georgie and his neo-con buddies.
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