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the poll no-one had the balls to start...
Real American:
--- Quote from: nibs on March 23, 2006, 07:37:17 AM ---
i have several issues with mainstream christianity:
a) it encourages people to be subservient to the laws and actions of man, and to accept oppression and injustice. human existence is portrayed as nothing more than suffering by christianity. it seems like an imbalanced portrayal.
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This is one of the dumbest things I have ever read, even dumber than when you said we need to accept Muslim oppression of religious minorities because it is their culture.
Since when has Christianity ever accepted injustice? Just look at American history. Who do you think helped spearhead the abolitionist movement in America? Christian churches. Who helped lead the civil rights movement? Christian churches. What did Martin Luther King do for a living again? Did he accept oppression and inustice?
You really have no clue what you are talking about. That is nothing new.
Mo Z. Dizzle:
sunnis and shias have been battling each other for quite some time.
in Pakistan i know they always fought and styll do fight.
I also heard they used to have arguments in Kenya and Tanzania, although i don't think anything ever was violent just debates.
as for the comment on the Christian God being better than the Islamic God; God is the same whether u believe God in Christianity or in Islam.
now the belief systems of the religion are different. u can worship God in different ways but that won't change what/who God is.
if we are talking about which belief system is better, than both sides can make their case
some the things written on Mohammad, let's clarify them
he definitely did not live a plush life. he lost his father before he was born and his mother when i think he was only 8 years old. when he was older and Islam came to be, him and his followers were boycotted and kicked out of Mecca for a few years. after him and his followers were allowed back into Mecca, there was a plot one night to have him killed while he was asleep; he found out and was able to escape with Ali (who Shias believe was the trus successor after him) taking his place while he migrated i believe to Medina. he also had a few children, from what i remember i think it was 3 boys and 4 girls. all 3 of his boys died at an early age.
i dunno what was meant about the ramblings that were documented, if you are talking about the Quran; the Quran that is written in Arabic is consistent in every true version (there have been fake Qurans being spread nowadays). The translation form Arabic might not completely accurate BUT they have the same idea; the reason it may slightly be inconsitent from version to version is because Arabic words translated into can have more than one meaning; the same would work vice-versa. To interpret the translation properly, you have to do research on the translation; i know in my Sunday school before i graduated and became a teacher, they had a course for that where we would dissect the translation of the Quran and try interpreting it better.
and finally the 2 parties trying to kill each other....this again goes back to the time after Mohammad's death. Shias believed that Mohamamd declared Ali his successor while Sunnis believed that Mohammad only meant Ali was his friend and that a new leader should be voted in. even at taht time, Ali did not battle the 3 caliphates that were there before him because he knew it would cause tons of problems; rather he waited until everybody took him as the leader. now Muslims nowadays are fighting, which is pretty stupid and wrong because they are taking the religion into their own hands and giving it a negative message and until Muslims don't realize this, nothing can be done.
coola:
--- Quote from: Arkan on March 23, 2006, 02:14:14 PM ---Good to see there's some intelligent and knowledgeble muslim people on this forum. Nibs, Kaseem & Sultan Abdul Hameed, much respect to you all.
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LMAO, i bet allah's bottom bitch pm'd you ;D
Arkan:
--- Quote from: Real American on March 23, 2006, 03:04:33 PM ---
--- Quote from: nibs on March 23, 2006, 07:37:17 AM ---
i have several issues with mainstream christianity:
a) it encourages people to be subservient to the laws and actions of man, and to accept oppression and injustice. human existence is portrayed as nothing more than suffering by christianity. it seems like an imbalanced portrayal.
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This is one of the dumbest things I have ever read, even dumber than when you said we need to accept Muslim oppression of religious minorities because it is their culture.
Since when has Christianity ever accepted injustice? Just look at American history. Who do you think helped spearhead the abolitionist movement in America? Christian churches. Who helped lead the civil rights movement? Christian churches. What did Martin Luther King do for a living again? Did he accept oppression and inustice?
You really have no clue what you are talking about. That is nothing new.
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LMAO. Since when has Christianity ever accepted injustice?
Try the colonization of South America and the genocide of the indigenous population in the name of Christianity. Try the purely politically motivated Crusades, in which even Christian cities in the Balkans and Byzantine were razed and pillaged, with whole populations slaughtered. Try the colonization of Africa and once again, use of Christianity to justify it. Try the European wars of religions such as the War of the League of Augsburg in the 1500's or the 30 years War just to name a few. Try the racist churches in the South that preached racial segregation and once again used verses from the Bible to justify slavery. Try the Holy Inquisition in Spain.
Shall I go on?
And you got the nerve to tell someone else they have no clue what they're talking about?
--- Quote from: Chief on March 23, 2006, 03:18:59 PM ---
--- Quote from: Arkan on March 23, 2006, 02:14:14 PM ---Good to see there's some intelligent and knowledgeble muslim people on this forum. Nibs, Kaseem & Sultan Abdul Hameed, much respect to you all.
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LMAO, i bet allah's bottom bitch pm'd you ;D
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Eh? Riiiight...... ::)
TraceOneInfinite:
--- Quote from: Arkan on March 23, 2006, 03:29:20 PM ---
LMAO. Since when has Christianity ever accepted injustice?
Try the colonization of South America and the genocide of the indigenous population in the name of Christianity. Try the purely politically motivated Crusades, in which even Christian cities in the Balkans and Byzantine were razed and pillaged, with whole populations slaughtered. Try the colonization of Africa and once again, use of Christianity to justify it. Try the European wars of religions such as the War of the League of Augsburg in the 1500's or the 30 years War just to name a few. Try the racist churches in the South that preached racial segregation and once again used verses from the Bible to justify slavery. Try the Holy Inquisition in Spain.
Shall I go on?
And you got the nerve to tell someone else they have no clue what they're talking about?
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^^Keep blessing the board with your knowledge. And let me add to your list...
...make no mistake about it, Bush's largest support group for his current war is the Christian right, and they have killed 100's of thousands of people in Afganistan and Iraq in the last 6 years, and this is all being done with the support of the Christian right. Bush himself, is a born again Christian. Christians are killing more people in the world today than any religious group, by far.
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