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coola:

--- Quote from: King ©® on March 30, 2006, 07:13:22 AM ---
--- Quote from: Chief on March 30, 2006, 06:59:26 AM ---^ i'm a hard worker, if it means i will find work easier because more employers are willing to take the risk to hire me.. then YES i want bill ! 2 years isnt a long time ! plus if you survive in the work-force during that time, dont you think it would look good on a resume ?

look at the bigger picture.

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If you're a hard worker you will keep the job even without a trial contract or "rookie contract", if you're a bad/lazy worker, you can still get fired today, this new bill only makes the firing part easier for the company, with less risks for the company, and practically without consequences.
"Surviving" 2 years in a company looks good on the resume, yes, but that doesn't mean that you need to accept to be stripped for your rights! Stand up and be a man!


--- Quote from: Chief on March 30, 2006, 07:00:31 AM ---and theyre not organised thugs... they are 15 year old kids smashing up cars.

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There's been reports of organized "professional protesters" travelling around and organizing riots through phone, and other funny business, it's far from just 15 year old kids, dunno what news story you been watching. But still: Not defending the protests, I'm defending workers rights, you sound to be more concerned about the companies.  8)



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i dont watch any news stories... i have my own reporter there.

Fathom:

--- Quote from: King ©® on March 29, 2006, 02:41:04 PM ---
--- Quote from: Lincoln on March 29, 2006, 05:19:47 AM ---From what I understand, it makes it easier to fire youth workers within a grace period right? That's a good idea! Employers don't want to hire youth because of the risks involved, this takes that risk down. If you're a good worker you shouldn't have to worry I wouldn't think.

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Did you read it properly, or just skim through it ?
They want to strip young people for the same rights "normal" workers got, make it possible to give young people 2 year trial contracts, and if they're not 100% satisfied with them, they can basically fire them for almost any given reason.

Did you know that 20% of all workers between 18 and 25 years in France are unemployed ? (Twice the percentage as the rest of the population)
The new law will raise the percentage of unemployed youths.


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Not necessarily.  One reason the unemployment rate is so high is because of the extremely worker friendly laws and excessively high tax rates on buissnesses.  Buissnesses can't afford to take on new employees.  The 2 year trial period is a great idea.  If you higher a flake or meth addict you can fire them without having to go through the expensive process of legally proving how fucked up they are.  If you are a good employee you have nothing to worry about.  I'm not saying get rid of worker rights all together, I'm merely saying it's a teetor totter that needs to be re-balanced.

coola:
^ NOOO WE WANT FREEDOM AND EQUAL RIGHTS !!!! VIVA LA VIBERTY !!! :grumpy:

King Tech Quadafi:

--- Quote from: Lincoln on March 29, 2006, 05:24:39 PM ---
Two things socialists hate about capitalism:

1. You have to work.
2. You only get paid what you're worth.

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 ???

Don Rizzle:

--- Quote from: Don Rizzle on March 30, 2006, 07:16:55 AM ---france is always on strike or rioting over something their government is weak and will nearly always cave in eventually.

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here it is

France to scrap youth job law
French President Jacques Chirac has announced that the new youth employment law that sparked weeks of sometimes violent protests will be scrapped.
He said it would be replaced by other measures to tackle youth unemployment.

Millions of students and union members have taken to the streets over the last month in protest against the law, which made it easier to fire young workers.

Prime Minister Dominique de Villepin said the law's aim had been to tackle high unemployment among the young.

The law, known as the First Employment Contract or CPE, introduced a new work contract for under-26s.


 FIRST JOB CONTRACT
Contrat Premiere Embauche (CPE): A new work contract for under-26s allowing a two-year trial period
In that period, employers can end a contract without explanation
After two years, the CPE reverts to a standard full-time contract
Became law on 2 April
 

It was to allow a two-year trial period, during which employers could end a contract without explanation.

The plan to replace the law was announced after a meeting between the president, Prime Minister Dominique de Villepin and other senior ministers on Monday.

'Dramatic situation'

Speaking in a live television address, Mr de Villepin said the president had accepted his proposed changes and that the new measures would be presented to the various sectors concerned during Monday.

He said he was convinced that the only way of addressing joblessness in France was a better balance between flexibility for employers and security for employees.

"For some time the action of the government had been guided by one objective, to provide thousands of young people from our society with opportunities for jobs," he said.

"I wanted to act very quickly because the dramatic situation and the despair of a number of young people warranted it.

"This was not understood by everyone, I'm sorry to say," said Mr de Villepin.

His goal now, he said, was to work for the future of the country, adding that he hoped all French people would work together.

Union leaders had given the government until Easter weekend to withdraw the law or face a repeat of the recent general strikes.

In a first reaction, the deputy leader of the country's second biggest trade union, the CGT, welcomed the announcement.

Maryse Dumas told the French news agency, AFP, that the withdrawl of the CPE was due to the "success of the joint action of workers and students, as well as union unity".


Story from BBC NEWS:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/1/hi/world/europe/4895164.stm

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