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Quote from: wcsoldier on April 14, 2006, 11:31:34 PMKobe is on another level , a whole another level... And please someone answer this question : how can Nash be the mvp when he's outmatched by Billups and T.Parker in every single game they play against each other ?? He can't stop both coz he's a terrible defender... so to be MVP , you have at least to be able to outshine others top players at your position, don't you have ??He has outshined other players at his position, I don't see very many point gaurds getting their teams 50+ wins without Amare Stoudamire whos their best big man and most dominant player on the offence and has been injured all season, what makes it even more remarkable is after the team traded away both Joe Johnson and Quentin Richardson for a bunch of crappy players and still Nash is making these guys look good and has the team cruising to another division title with 52 wins...I don't think Nash should win MVP but come on you have to give credit when it is due
Kobe is on another level , a whole another level... And please someone answer this question : how can Nash be the mvp when he's outmatched by Billups and T.Parker in every single game they play against each other ?? He can't stop both coz he's a terrible defender... so to be MVP , you have at least to be able to outshine others top players at your position, don't you have ??
Kobe should get it no doubt. He deserves it. I wouldn't be mad if Nash wins it, but what Kobe has done this season is historic.Now I'm Blowed, as far as the system being responsible for Nash's play, couldn't you make the same argument for the Phil's triangle and Kobe? Kobe is averaging 7 points a game more than last season, and I think Kobe playing the wing spot in the traingle is largely responsible. If you're going to knock Nash due to the system they implement, you can do the same with Kobe. Any competent coach will use a system will take advantage of their player's strenghts, just like Riley did with showtime and Magic.
Now I'm Blowed, as far as the system being responsible for Nash's play, couldn't you make the same argument for the Phil's triangle and Kobe? Kobe is averaging 7 points a game more than last season, and I think Kobe playing the wing spot in the traingle is largely responsible. If you're going to knock Nash due to the system they implement, you can do the same with Kobe. Any competent coach will use a system will take advantage of their player's strenghts, just like Riley did with showtime and Magic.
Kobe is now producing high numbers (well, he's always produced high numbers, now they're even higher) because the offense is running through him and a lot of the times he gets depended on, more so than in the past
Quote from: Now_Im_Blowed on April 17, 2006, 09:24:42 AMKobe is now producing high numbers (well, he's always produced high numbers, now they're even higher) because the offense is running through him and a lot of the times he gets depended on, more so than in the pastexactly the offense is run through him so that means he's the focal point of their offense. plays r designed to get him the ball and for him to score it or pass if off. since kobe's gonna get the most touches he's given more opportunities to score or pass off if when the triple team comes by. the suns offense is stat inlfating but thats theyre style of play and its not like its a walk in the park for nash to just rack up those numbers. hes aiding a few players who 2 yrs ago were no namers in this league and without amare. both players r doing their respective jobs admirably but u cant knock on one and says its just the system.
i think AI should get it but i wouldn´t be mad if Kobe got it coz he´s takein his game to another level this season.
i think AI should get it but i wouldn´t be mad if Kobe got it coz he´s takein his game to another level this season. i´ve always critized Kobe in the past coz of certain things but this year i´ve found very few flaws in his game so if he were to win it i couldn´t complain. but i don´t think that AI or Kobe´s gonna get it, they´ll prolly give it to Nash which would be a huge mistake IMO.
Quote from: africas seed on April 17, 2006, 09:31:08 AMQuote from: Now_Im_Blowed on April 17, 2006, 09:24:42 AMKobe is now producing high numbers (well, he's always produced high numbers, now they're even higher) because the offense is running through him and a lot of the times he gets depended on, more so than in the pastexactly the offense is run through him so that means he's the focal point of their offense. plays r designed to get him the ball and for him to score it or pass if off. since kobe's gonna get the most touches he's given more opportunities to score or pass off if when the triple team comes by. the suns offense is stat inlfating but thats theyre style of play and its not like its a walk in the park for nash to just rack up those numbers. hes aiding a few players who 2 yrs ago were no namers in this league and without amare. both players r doing their respective jobs admirably but u cant knock on one and says its just the system.exactly.the suns looked pretty bad without Nash out there yesterday.