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Geesta:
Swagger is gonna win the title after he cash's in the money?
fuck it i think Swagger will be the next victim of the undertaker
Sikotic™:
I don't care about the politics of it all. As a performer, HBK was great. Before his injury in 98 and after his return in 02. He was great. Nobody can deny that he put on some of the best matches and was the go-to guy in WWE during his final run. Give me a guy who put on better matches than HBK? HE made Cena and washed up Flair look great in the ring. He could of been the biggest dick on earth and I don't care. Doesn't concern me.
JohnnyL:
--- Quote from: Sikotic on April 01, 2010, 03:18:43 AM ---I don't care about the politics of it all. As a performer, HBK was great. Before his injury in 98 and after his return in 02. He was great. Nobody can deny that he put on some of the best matches and was the go-to guy in WWE during his final run. Give me a guy who put on better matches than HBK? HE made Cena and washed up Flair look great in the ring. He could of been the biggest dick on earth and I don't care. Doesn't concern me.
--- End quote ---
I agree. In a WWE that no longer has a Benoit, or an Angle, or a Bret Hart (in his prime), or an Eddie Guerrero, it seemed to me that HBK was one of the few guys in the WWE that you could still count on putting on a solid workrate match. I don't know about HBK as a person, but he was a solid in-ring performer.
Shallow:
No one is doubting his in ring ability. I'm a Canadian who grew up hating HBK and just the other day I had a debate in favor of HBK over Hart as an in ring performer. I'm not even using the politics as a reason why I hate him. What I'm saying is he was given shot after shot at being a star and he couldn't get it done. That means he didn't have it. Neither did Benoit or Kurt Angle. There is a difference between getting over and becoming a draw. The WWF hasn't had a draw since The Rock, and the last draw created in wrestling was the short lived Goldberg.
There are very few of these types of wrestlers in history. Off the top of my head since 1980 the only draws I can think of are Harley Race, Ric Flair, Dusty Rhodes, Hogan, Piper, Road Warriors, Ultimate Warrior, Vader in WCW, Lawler in his market, Hall and Nash as the Outsiders, Hollywood Hogan, Steve Austin, the Rock and Goldberg. Everyone else that won the title was just a main eventer who got over and did well.
Everyone one of these guys above in their prime could become draws in the WWE today if pushed the same way they were pushed when they became draws. Shawn Michaels got an as big or bigger push than any of these guys and it didn't work. DX was cool and all but it was a second rate nWo that got more over thanks to the anti-American angle by the Harts, but it was never a draw. A draw means you are a performer that brings people into the building that wouldn't already come and that makes people that don't buy merch buy merch. An over main eventer is a guy that makes people cheer after they come or gets them to buy this shirt instead of that shirt.
No money would have been lost if Hart, HBK, or Hennig never existed. That's all I'm saying.
Mo Z. Dizzle:
BREAKING NEWS: CM PUNK SUSPENDED FOR FAILING WELLNESS POLICY TEST
April Fool's!!
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