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O.G A.Geesta'z:
--- Quote from: UKnowWhatItIs: welcome to my traps....game over on April 15, 2013, 02:04:52 PM ---^lol at Punk being humble.. This guy thought his shit didn't stink way back when he was in TNA. Its a known fact he ranks himself higher than other wrestlers & is super cocky hence the line "best in the world".
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as of right now he is one of the best in the world... why not brag? and he's humble with old school wrestlers or atleast respectful to say the least, he was a big prick back in his indy days and still is... thats why when WWE lets him be himself like he was in the indy days it works...
i hated punk until his infamous "pipe bomb" that got him over with everyone, then when i finally realized his talent i was like damn this dude really is a good wrestler
UKnowWhatItIs: welcome to my traps....game over:
^Actually he is one of the best right now. I'm a huge fan of Cm Punk but by the way he talks & acts you can tell this guy has a ego problem. He has respect for the older wrestlers BUT thats where his ego takes over. I mean c'mon presented with the option he would've taken the win over The Undertaker & the guy has been disrespecting the shit out of Austin whenever he gets the chance to. I don't know whether its to get Austin in the ring or not but whatever the case he isn't actually all that humble. He will give props where its due but still, he thinks he's superior. Anyways thats how I see it.
O.G A.Geesta'z:
Austin killed him though in some of his replies too though, that would be an awesome match for wrestlemania Austin vs Punk
Shallow:
--- Quote from: Young Jizz on April 15, 2013, 12:33:49 PM ---yeah bro you kind of have no valid arguement if you dont even watch todays wrestling... i mean we can sit here all day and talk about how good wrestling use to be back in the days but but if you dont know thats going on today you cant really compare then and now..
and Taker should never lose the streak because its bad for business... Everyone is going to keep wanting to see who Taker will fight next, and Punk wasnt buried by Taker, im pretty sure if Vince was like "Punk your beating Taker clean and defeating the streak" Punk being the humble guy that he is would probably decline doing it anyways... he has alot of respect for old school wrestlers and is a really humble guy
Im pretty sure Punk is going to have a really good push when he comes back after his break he is taking from all his nagging injuries, Punks work ethic is your modern day Bret Hart/Shawn Micheals work ethic back in the day, always puts quality matches and is a work horse...
Once they bring him back im hoping he starts a fued with Ziggler or Daniel Bryan because those guys are the best technical wrestlers right now and have classics waiting to happen
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I'm not saying Punk should have won. I'm saying they shouldn't even be in the ring togther unless Punk is going to win. This isn't about how wrestling used to be and me complaining, it's about basic business and the concepts that were ignored in WCW are the same concepts being ignored in Punk vs Taker.
Undertaker is a 50 year old man who is no longer a full time wrestler, and shows up once a year to keep a streak going. I have no problem when he goes over HHH or HBK, or if they wanted him to go over Rock or Brock. But CM Punk is a guy you are trying to build your company around. John Cena is to. You want to show the fans, most of them very young, that the guys they are watching now are the best in the world. It's the same in real sport or fake action movie. You suspend your disbelief but you do not want do so for second rate people.
It's like you guys are forgetting what it's like to be a kid watching this. You can make money now having Taker beat Punk because guys our age are still attatched to Taker and can really respect CM Punk's work rate. Kids don't give a shit about that. I remember Hogan/Andre and Hogan/Warrior and worrying about if Hogan can beat this guy. Hogan/Andre was a pretty bad match when I watch it now, and Hogan/Warrior was prety good when I watch it now. I saw no difference at 4 and 7 years old. I just knew Hogan was better than Andre and not better than Warrior. And that's all 5 to 10 year olds know about Punk and Taker. Taker is better than Punk, and it isn't something you want kids thinking about.
Because the time will come when the 5 years olds are 30 and they won't have any streaks to watch because there won't be any Mega Stars to care about.
midwestryder I don't mean the heap of talent. I'm sure there are guys out there a lot better than the average of guys in the past. I mean the heap of market. There is less and less money to make in wrestling. A show here and there can make lot, and inflation can make things look bigger and bigger. But you cannot make as much money as a wrestller on average and wrestling on average does not make as much money. The WWE as of now can still make more than the best single company of 1975, but all the companies combined made more money (adjusting for inflation) than all the companies combined today.
And I'm still up on the scene. NJPW just had one of the best PPVs in a decade and I was watching Punk and Joe in ROH when they were going on. I just cant sit through a WWE show. I also couldn't sit through a WWE show in the Attitude era. I hated it.The difference is I understood they were doing good business in 1999 and I understand they are doing bad business since 2009.
And burying isn't just making someone look bad during the match. It's making someone lose when he should not be losing, no matter how great the match is or how close the guy comes. You can get around it with DQs and ref stoppages because the guy that lost, especially a heel, can lean on the excuse but there is a reason top guys don't ever want to lose in clean finishes. They understand what it does to their marketability. Today's guys don't put up the same stink because they are paid more from salary and don't fully see what a clean finish does to their stock. But a main eventer in the old days that lost clean saw it in the lack of ticket sales at shows he was headlining after a clean loss.
Today they can rotate the main event because the brand is the star, but that is living mainly off fans that are sticking around because they remember the stars. They need more kids and they need to create unbeatable heroes for those kids. And if those unbeatable heroes are losing matches to guys their father's used to watch it hurts the product.
O.G A.Geesta'z:
well im glad you didnt watch Raw tonight
every young talent with a bright future basically got burried today lol
Cesaro lost to Kingston in a decent match and lost to the US title who both are respectivly great talents, hopefully a good feud from from them
Barrett put over Truth but didnt lose the IC title
Kaitlin lost to the bella's in a non title match
and Dolph lost to Swagger in a non title match as his first match after becoming WHC
jesus christ im thinking what a way to bury your young talent WWE
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