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Something shocking and disappointing will happen on Smackdown this Friday
Quote from: Big Sik Daddy on March 30, 2010, 11:46:39 PMSomething shocking and disappointing will happen on Smackdown this Friday does it...involve: a pig, vicky guererro, a fish and douche bag? cause anything less would suck...including a huge upset victory for someone.....
One thing about the Michaels/Hart/Henning generation of wrestlers that was highly critical of the Hogan/Flair/Piper generation of not retiring and letting them shine. So I see no comeback in Michaels future, I can imagion he wants to take his millions and play with his kids well his body is still intact, and well he has some active years left. It was also nice to see his last match on the same card as Hart's last match, who also seems very happy about getting some closer and offically going out the way he wants. After all, his career was cut short by a Goldberg boot to the head the night he won the WCW title on Nitro. I expect to see Hart some more though, as rumor has it he'll guest ref a couple of matches and give the Hart Dynesty a rub to help boost their careers. Well that's just my reflation on a great Raw. Sorry I didn't watch Impact like everyone else, but Michaels leaving was a special moment to me.
Quote from: Big Sik Daddy on March 30, 2010, 11:46:39 PMSomething shocking and disappointing will happen on Smackdown this Friday It's all soo shocking I'm thinking it's an April's Fools joke.
Quote from: M Dogg on March 30, 2010, 08:37:37 AMOne thing about the Michaels/Hart/Henning generation of wrestlers that was highly critical of the Hogan/Flair/Piper generation of not retiring and letting them shine. So I see no comeback in Michaels future, I can imagion he wants to take his millions and play with his kids well his body is still intact, and well he has some active years left. It was also nice to see his last match on the same card as Hart's last match, who also seems very happy about getting some closer and offically going out the way he wants. After all, his career was cut short by a Goldberg boot to the head the night he won the WCW title on Nitro. I expect to see Hart some more though, as rumor has it he'll guest ref a couple of matches and give the Hart Dynesty a rub to help boost their careers. Well that's just my reflation on a great Raw. Sorry I didn't watch Impact like everyone else, but Michaels leaving was a special moment to me.Ok, I'll accept the HBK speech as being well delivered but I really could care less. He was given the world's chance to make money and he dropped the ball time after time. Some guys can draw, some can't. But because Vince liked him he kept getting chances and the business was hurt because of that.Here's a guy that only got his first push because he sold out his partner and friend Janetty to Vince when they were about to jump ship to WCW for big contracts. Since then he's tried like the devil to keep his image up by continuously finding loopholes to get out of dropping a title clean. It got to the point where Taker had to threaten him before his match with Austin to ensure he didn't try anything funny in the WM14 match. He's been a lot better since his comeback, but even still he stood with HHH at the top of the card with their long boring feud outshining upcoming talent and new world champions for the first couple years.He'll wrestle again. This is pro-wrestling. Retirement means nothing. He sort of retired already once before. Will he be back on a full time work schedule? Maybe not.As for the trio of Hart/Hennig/HBK and how you blamed the old guard for not letting them shine. Give me a break. The old guard always tries to get in the way. The difference is a true draw will overcome it when given the chance and Hart and HBK were given the chance. They just couldn't draw. Hennig, like Scott Hall, hurt himself as much as anyone else did.But going back to Bret and Raw the other night; I really didn't think he could get any lower but when he referenced his parents, Bulldog and Owen giving each other high 5s after he lay a beating on Vince I almost felt sick to my stomach. If he said that in Toronto he may have gotten booed. And I fully don't expect a huge reaction for him if he shows up on the next TO show. He's lost a respect from far less negative people than myself around here. Shame on Bret Hart.Both he and HBK should be writing Steve Austen thank you notes every day for the rest of their lives, because if it wasn't for him, a real star and draw, the WWF would have went under or at least taken huge steps back, and Shawn and Bret wouldn't have had this stage to feed their own pride and gluttony in their come back years.
Quote from: Shallow on March 31, 2010, 08:00:10 AMQuote from: M Dogg on March 30, 2010, 08:37:37 AMOne thing about the Michaels/Hart/Henning generation of wrestlers that was highly critical of the Hogan/Flair/Piper generation of not retiring and letting them shine. So I see no comeback in Michaels future, I can imagion he wants to take his millions and play with his kids well his body is still intact, and well he has some active years left. It was also nice to see his last match on the same card as Hart's last match, who also seems very happy about getting some closer and offically going out the way he wants. After all, his career was cut short by a Goldberg boot to the head the night he won the WCW title on Nitro. I expect to see Hart some more though, as rumor has it he'll guest ref a couple of matches and give the Hart Dynesty a rub to help boost their careers. Well that's just my reflation on a great Raw. Sorry I didn't watch Impact like everyone else, but Michaels leaving was a special moment to me.Ok, I'll accept the HBK speech as being well delivered but I really could care less. He was given the world's chance to make money and he dropped the ball time after time. Some guys can draw, some can't. But because Vince liked him he kept getting chances and the business was hurt because of that.Here's a guy that only got his first push because he sold out his partner and friend Janetty to Vince when they were about to jump ship to WCW for big contracts. Since then he's tried like the devil to keep his image up by continuously finding loopholes to get out of dropping a title clean. It got to the point where Taker had to threaten him before his match with Austin to ensure he didn't try anything funny in the WM14 match. He's been a lot better since his comeback, but even still he stood with HHH at the top of the card with their long boring feud outshining upcoming talent and new world champions for the first couple years.He'll wrestle again. This is pro-wrestling. Retirement means nothing. He sort of retired already once before. Will he be back on a full time work schedule? Maybe not.As for the trio of Hart/Hennig/HBK and how you blamed the old guard for not letting them shine. Give me a break. The old guard always tries to get in the way. The difference is a true draw will overcome it when given the chance and Hart and HBK were given the chance. They just couldn't draw. Hennig, like Scott Hall, hurt himself as much as anyone else did.But going back to Bret and Raw the other night; I really didn't think he could get any lower but when he referenced his parents, Bulldog and Owen giving each other high 5s after he lay a beating on Vince I almost felt sick to my stomach. If he said that in Toronto he may have gotten booed. And I fully don't expect a huge reaction for him if he shows up on the next TO show. He's lost a respect from far less negative people than myself around here. Shame on Bret Hart.Both he and HBK should be writing Steve Austen thank you notes every day for the rest of their lives, because if it wasn't for him, a real star and draw, the WWF would have went under or at least taken huge steps back, and Shawn and Bret wouldn't have had this stage to feed their own pride and gluttony in their come back years.HATER!!!!! u hate on wrestling too? LOL! Of course Shawn couldnt carry the company when he was on top, wcw was too strong..u make me sick how ur bashing HBK...SHOW SOME FUCKIN RESPECT TO THE GOAT
Quote from: "THE" MoSav on March 31, 2010, 01:01:57 PMQuote from: Shallow on March 31, 2010, 08:00:10 AMQuote from: M Dogg on March 30, 2010, 08:37:37 AMOne thing about the Michaels/Hart/Henning generation of wrestlers that was highly critical of the Hogan/Flair/Piper generation of not retiring and letting them shine. So I see no comeback in Michaels future, I can imagion he wants to take his millions and play with his kids well his body is still intact, and well he has some active years left. It was also nice to see his last match on the same card as Hart's last match, who also seems very happy about getting some closer and offically going out the way he wants. After all, his career was cut short by a Goldberg boot to the head the night he won the WCW title on Nitro. I expect to see Hart some more though, as rumor has it he'll guest ref a couple of matches and give the Hart Dynesty a rub to help boost their careers. Well that's just my reflation on a great Raw. Sorry I didn't watch Impact like everyone else, but Michaels leaving was a special moment to me.Ok, I'll accept the HBK speech as being well delivered but I really could care less. He was given the world's chance to make money and he dropped the ball time after time. Some guys can draw, some can't. But because Vince liked him he kept getting chances and the business was hurt because of that.Here's a guy that only got his first push because he sold out his partner and friend Janetty to Vince when they were about to jump ship to WCW for big contracts. Since then he's tried like the devil to keep his image up by continuously finding loopholes to get out of dropping a title clean. It got to the point where Taker had to threaten him before his match with Austin to ensure he didn't try anything funny in the WM14 match. He's been a lot better since his comeback, but even still he stood with HHH at the top of the card with their long boring feud outshining upcoming talent and new world champions for the first couple years.He'll wrestle again. This is pro-wrestling. Retirement means nothing. He sort of retired already once before. Will he be back on a full time work schedule? Maybe not.As for the trio of Hart/Hennig/HBK and how you blamed the old guard for not letting them shine. Give me a break. The old guard always tries to get in the way. The difference is a true draw will overcome it when given the chance and Hart and HBK were given the chance. They just couldn't draw. Hennig, like Scott Hall, hurt himself as much as anyone else did.But going back to Bret and Raw the other night; I really didn't think he could get any lower but when he referenced his parents, Bulldog and Owen giving each other high 5s after he lay a beating on Vince I almost felt sick to my stomach. If he said that in Toronto he may have gotten booed. And I fully don't expect a huge reaction for him if he shows up on the next TO show. He's lost a respect from far less negative people than myself around here. Shame on Bret Hart.Both he and HBK should be writing Steve Austen thank you notes every day for the rest of their lives, because if it wasn't for him, a real star and draw, the WWF would have went under or at least taken huge steps back, and Shawn and Bret wouldn't have had this stage to feed their own pride and gluttony in their come back years.HATER!!!!! u hate on wrestling too? LOL! Of course Shawn couldnt carry the company when he was on top, wcw was too strong..u make me sick how ur bashing HBK...SHOW SOME FUCKIN RESPECT TO THE GOATGOAT my ass. Goat requires drawing money. I'll never take away from his working abilities. Despite not not always long the WWF style of matches on his best day HBK is as good as anyone. But when I say he's not a draw I'm not hating. He got the title in March 96 but he was at the top of the card since January 95 when he won the rumble. No one cared that he was going for the belt then. It was too the point where Bam Bam and LT had to main event over Deisel and HBK. Don't blame WCW for HBK not being able to carry the ball. The second Austin started being attached to HBK the buyrates doubled. That's ridiculous. They do a year long storyline with HBK chasing Bret and WM12 pulls in a 1.2 rating. When it was Austin main eventing his first Mania it was a 2.3 rating. HBK had no WCW competition at WM12. Hall and Nash were still with WWF and Nitro was still losing to Raw. Austin did it during the WCW dominance. He grabbed the ball and said hey everyone look at me, and they looked, and I hated Austin and his gimmick, but I know a star when I see one and HBK was never one.As far as US wrestling there's Ric Flair 78-93 and then there's everyone else as far as GOATs go.