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b/c lyrically its trash and he didnt say anything in one song.
Quote from: Tom iz active with Pop Twista Sister Giggity Giggity Ugh Ugh Ugh on May 11, 2006, 04:54:48 PMb/c lyrically its trash and he didnt say anything in one song.Well, it's a party album, so you can't hold it to the same standards as "Illmatic" or "Ready To Die". But for a party rapper, Snoop still has a great deal of depth - didn't you find his storytelling impressive on "Murder Was The Case"? What about his cover of "Lodi Dodi"? (he was the first rapper to cover another rapper's song, BTW) Or what about the pure freestyle skills he displayed on "Tha Shiznit"? (that song made me respect Snoop as an MC) Yeah, it's easy to hold up "Doggystyle" to a lot of East Coast albums (and some other West Coast albums) and note that it's not nearly as intelligent or profound, but it was just so well-executed that I think it's earned its classic status.
Beasti Boys ain't hip-hop and def. aint classic
Quote from: Tha Spirt Ov Allah Clarence 13Xtra Tha Fatha (Iz Active) on May 11, 2006, 07:05:10 PMQuote from: Tom iz active with Pop Twista Sister Giggity Giggity Ugh Ugh Ugh on May 11, 2006, 04:54:48 PMb/c lyrically its trash and he didnt say anything in one song.Well, it's a party album, so you can't hold it to the same standards as "Illmatic" or "Ready To Die". But for a party rapper, Snoop still has a great deal of depth - didn't you find his storytelling impressive on "Murder Was The Case"? What about his cover of "Lodi Dodi"? (he was the first rapper to cover another rapper's song, BTW) Or what about the pure freestyle skills he displayed on "Tha Shiznit"? (that song made me respect Snoop as an MC) Yeah, it's easy to hold up "Doggystyle" to a lot of East Coast albums (and some other West Coast albums) and note that it's not nearly as intelligent or profound, but it was just so well-executed that I think it's earned its classic status.I never said it wasnt classic im just sayin why people dont think its a classic. I think it is classic. Its quite possibly the greatest produced album of all-time and snoop had one of the best flows in rap on this album.
Quote from: Tom iz active with Pop Twista Sister Giggity Giggity Ugh Ugh Ugh on May 11, 2006, 08:23:32 PMQuote from: Tha Spirt Ov Allah Clarence 13Xtra Tha Fatha (Iz Active) on May 11, 2006, 07:05:10 PMQuote from: Tom iz active with Pop Twista Sister Giggity Giggity Ugh Ugh Ugh on May 11, 2006, 04:54:48 PMb/c lyrically its trash and he didnt say anything in one song.Well, it's a party album, so you can't hold it to the same standards as "Illmatic" or "Ready To Die". But for a party rapper, Snoop still has a great deal of depth - didn't you find his storytelling impressive on "Murder Was The Case"? What about his cover of "Lodi Dodi"? (he was the first rapper to cover another rapper's song, BTW) Or what about the pure freestyle skills he displayed on "Tha Shiznit"? (that song made me respect Snoop as an MC) Yeah, it's easy to hold up "Doggystyle" to a lot of East Coast albums (and some other West Coast albums) and note that it's not nearly as intelligent or profound, but it was just so well-executed that I think it's earned its classic status.I never said it wasnt classic im just sayin why people dont think its a classic. I think it is classic. Its quite possibly the greatest produced album of all-time and snoop had one of the best flows in rap on this album.Doggy Style is a calssic, Beastie Boys ainn't put out a classic.
Quote from: Professor P on May 11, 2006, 08:24:23 PMQuote from: Tom iz active with Pop Twista Sister Giggity Giggity Ugh Ugh Ugh on May 11, 2006, 08:23:32 PMQuote from: Tha Spirt Ov Allah Clarence 13Xtra Tha Fatha (Iz Active) on May 11, 2006, 07:05:10 PMQuote from: Tom iz active with Pop Twista Sister Giggity Giggity Ugh Ugh Ugh on May 11, 2006, 04:54:48 PMb/c lyrically its trash and he didnt say anything in one song.Well, it's a party album, so you can't hold it to the same standards as "Illmatic" or "Ready To Die". But for a party rapper, Snoop still has a great deal of depth - didn't you find his storytelling impressive on "Murder Was The Case"? What about his cover of "Lodi Dodi"? (he was the first rapper to cover another rapper's song, BTW) Or what about the pure freestyle skills he displayed on "Tha Shiznit"? (that song made me respect Snoop as an MC) Yeah, it's easy to hold up "Doggystyle" to a lot of East Coast albums (and some other West Coast albums) and note that it's not nearly as intelligent or profound, but it was just so well-executed that I think it's earned its classic status.I never said it wasnt classic im just sayin why people dont think its a classic. I think it is classic. Its quite possibly the greatest produced album of all-time and snoop had one of the best flows in rap on this album.Doggy Style is a calssic, Beastie Boys ainn't put out a classic.I agree that Doggystyle is better than any Beastie album but just because Snoop has a better album than any Beastie album doesn't mean they haven't had a classic. For the record I'd currently take Sabotage over any single Snoop song, but my tastes cator towars slightly more edgy stuff.
Quote from: Professor P on May 11, 2006, 06:08:10 PMBeasti Boys ain't hip-hop and def. aint classicYou can easily argue that Fight For Your Right and Sabotage aren't Hip Hop, but how can you listen to Paul's Boutique and say it isn't Hip Hop? You can say it sucks and I won't argue because to each his own but Paul's Boutique embodies more aspects of what Hip Hop was supposed to be than almost all of today's mainstream rap. You know if these guys were black everyone would be calling them pioneers, but since they're white people find ways to hate on them. If KRS released So Watcha Want it'd be just another notch in his belt of greatness but since its a bunch of goofy white guys it gets scoffed. I'm not even that big a fan but I can't for the life of me think of any other genre a song like Pass The Mic would fall under. Hip Hop didn't start with fabricated thug stories about how tough you are and it sure as hell isn't limited to that.
my karma is about to get its ass kicked....Snoop Doggy Dogg - Doggystyle
Quote from: mrceo on May 11, 2006, 02:05:06 PMAll Eyez On Me - For the same reason as all ya'll picked Life After Death, there is just too many songs to listen to it all the way the way thru, let the hating beginI actually agree here..."All Eyez On Me" has a lot of classic cuts, don't get me wrong, but it's almost half filler and half dope tracks. It's definitely an album that would've been better if it had been one disc instead of two, though I give Pac props for being ambitious. But I still just don't feel the album as a whole.As far as the people who have said "Life After Death"...I can understand that as well, but personally, I think that album had far less filler compared to "All Eyez On Me". I can pretty much listen to "Life After Death" straight through without skipping many tracks (although the 2nd disc is a little weaker compared to the 1st, I'll give you that).
All Eyez On Me - For the same reason as all ya'll picked Life After Death, there is just too many songs to listen to it all the way the way thru, let the hating begin
Outkast - Aquemini
Nas - Illmatic