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50 Cent told the Associated Press that rappers are a rarity on her show. "I think she caters to older white women." 50 said, adding that "Oprah's audience is my audience's parents. So, I could care less about Oprah or her show. I'm actually better off having friction with her."
Besides, Luda's point that she was OK with Chris Rock and Dave Chappelle is stupid - neither of them have done a stand-up routine that comes close to, say, "Area Codes".
Quote from: Tha Spirt Ov Allah Clarence 13Xtra Tha Fatha (Iz Active) on May 13, 2006, 07:50:35 AM Besides, Luda's point that she was OK with Chris Rock and Dave Chappelle is stupid - neither of them have done a stand-up routine that comes close to, say, "Area Codes".no, their stand-ups are a lot worse(and did they have to defend their offensive "art"?). Eddie Murphy,Dave Chappelle,Chris Rock etc etc have all said way worse things then Ludacris but when they are on her show she lets them be regular persons and that clearly wasn´t the case when Luda was on her show. he was there just answering questions as a rapper and not as a regular person(and he was there as an actor lol). if Oprah interviewed the Osbouners you think she´d spend most of the interview talking about them sayin bitch,ho,cunt,slut,motherfucker,shit,asshole,whore etc etc all the time?
Quote from: Pissin' On The Throne on May 13, 2006, 08:01:07 AMQuote from: Tha Spirt Ov Allah Clarence 13Xtra Tha Fatha (Iz Active) on May 13, 2006, 07:50:35 AM Besides, Luda's point that she was OK with Chris Rock and Dave Chappelle is stupid - neither of them have done a stand-up routine that comes close to, say, "Area Codes".no, their stand-ups are a lot worse(and did they have to defend their offensive "art"?). Eddie Murphy,Dave Chappelle,Chris Rock etc etc have all said way worse things then Ludacris but when they are on her show she lets them be regular persons and that clearly wasn´t the case when Luda was on her show. he was there just answering questions as a rapper and not as a regular person(and he was there as an actor lol). if Oprah interviewed the Osbouners you think she´d spend most of the interview talking about them sayin bitch,ho,cunt,slut,motherfucker,shit,asshole,whore etc etc all the time?You have to look at the intended audience and the effect. As far as I know you can't just walk into any club and see an adult targeted comedy show. You have to be over 18 and you are supposed to be to get the jokes. Obviously you'll always have groups of teens that get their hands on tapes, just like they do cigarettes or porn, but the fact remains it is intended for adults. Hip Hop is intended for children and shown during the day for children, and easily sold over the counter to children, and greatly affects many children. The Osbourne's don't have that negative effect. They are just one mildly popular TV family and their influence has not been seen on such a large scale in society so it makes no sense to attack them because it would only make them more popular. And the comedians do what they do for the adult audience they cater to. If Chris Rock or Dave Chappelle allow children into their shows then I fully agree that Oprah is a hypocrite but if they don't then Luda needs to think before he speaks.
You have to look at the intended audience and the effect. As far as I know you can't just walk into any club and see an adult targeted comedy show. You have to be over 18 and you are supposed to be to get the jokes. Obviously you'll always have groups of teens that get their hands on tapes, just like they do cigarettes or porn, but the fact remains it is intended for adults. Hip Hop is intended for children and shown during the day for children, and easily sold over the counter to children, and greatly affects many children. The Osbourne's don't have that negative effect. They are just one mildly popular TV family and their influence has not been seen on such a large scale in society so it makes no sense to attack them because it would only make them more popular. And the comedians do what they do for the adult audience they cater to. If Chris Rock or Dave Chappelle allow children into their shows then I fully agree that Oprah is a hypocrite but if they don't then Luda needs to think before he speaks.
Quote from: Pissin' On The Throne on May 13, 2006, 08:01:07 AMQuote from: Tha Spirt Ov Allah Clarence 13Xtra Tha Fatha (Iz Active) on May 13, 2006, 07:50:35 AM Besides, Luda's point that she was OK with Chris Rock and Dave Chappelle is stupid - neither of them have done a stand-up routine that comes close to, say, "Area Codes".no, their stand-ups are a lot worse(and did they have to defend their offensive "art"?). Eddie Murphy,Dave Chappelle,Chris Rock etc etc have all said way worse things then Ludacris but when they are on her show she lets them be regular persons and that clearly wasn´t the case when Luda was on her show. he was there just answering questions as a rapper and not as a regular person(and he was there as an actor lol). if Oprah interviewed the Osbouners you think she´d spend most of the interview talking about them sayin bitch,ho,cunt,slut,motherfucker,shit,asshole,whore etc etc all the time?How are their stand-ups worse than rap? At least it's obvious that it's comedy and you're just supposed to laugh at it, whereas hip-hop has a tendency to forget it's entertainment quite frequently (if the number of rappers shooting each other in real life is any indication). The line between hip-hop vs. reality is far more blurry compared to the line between comedy vs. reality.
and it´s not obvious when Ludacris is having fun and joking? i could´ve understood Oprah´s whole tirade if she had a "gangsta" rapper that tries to glorify selling drugs,killing and shit like that. but Ludacris is basically a comedy rapper and if anyone can´t see that they should prolly take a trip to the nearest shrink.
Quote from: Shallow on May 13, 2006, 08:41:33 AMQuote from: Pissin' On The Throne on May 13, 2006, 08:01:07 AMQuote from: Tha Spirt Ov Allah Clarence 13Xtra Tha Fatha (Iz Active) on May 13, 2006, 07:50:35 AM Besides, Luda's point that she was OK with Chris Rock and Dave Chappelle is stupid - neither of them have done a stand-up routine that comes close to, say, "Area Codes".no, their stand-ups are a lot worse(and did they have to defend their offensive "art"?). Eddie Murphy,Dave Chappelle,Chris Rock etc etc have all said way worse things then Ludacris but when they are on her show she lets them be regular persons and that clearly wasn´t the case when Luda was on her show. he was there just answering questions as a rapper and not as a regular person(and he was there as an actor lol). if Oprah interviewed the Osbouners you think she´d spend most of the interview talking about them sayin bitch,ho,cunt,slut,motherfucker,shit,asshole,whore etc etc all the time?You have to look at the intended audience and the effect. As far as I know you can't just walk into any club and see an adult targeted comedy show. You have to be over 18 and you are supposed to be to get the jokes. Obviously you'll always have groups of teens that get their hands on tapes, just like they do cigarettes or porn, but the fact remains it is intended for adults. Hip Hop is intended for children and shown during the day for children, and easily sold over the counter to children, and greatly affects many children. The Osbourne's don't have that negative effect. They are just one mildly popular TV family and their influence has not been seen on such a large scale in society so it makes no sense to attack them because it would only make them more popular. And the comedians do what they do for the adult audience they cater to. If Chris Rock or Dave Chappelle allow children into their shows then I fully agree that Oprah is a hypocrite but if they don't then Luda needs to think before he speaks.i´s real hard for you to walk into any store and buy any of their stand-up dvd´s? hell naw it´s just as easy as it is to buy an album. and how do you know that Osbournes don´t have the exact same effect(they´ve done any studies?) all your doin in your post is giving everybody else a pass but when it comes to rappers they gotta answer for shit that everybody on Oprah´s show doesn´t have to answer. and you don´t think Chapelle´s show etc are directed at youngsters? if not then you might wanna do a background check on the company who distributes the Chappelle Show coz they the ones mostly responsible for little kids hearing negative rap during the day. at the end of the day it´s not the rappers fault it´s the parents faults or atleast according to Oprah most of the things that goes wrongs with a child´s life is the parents responsibilty(she´s had dozens of show about shit like that). and i´ve been to a Chris Rock stand-up and the majoriy of people in that bitch was waaaaaay younger then 18.
Actually, that's a really lame argument (then again, coming from someone who doesn't listen to hip-hop anymore, I didn't expect much from you). Hip-hop is not targeted towards children any more than comedians like Chappelle or Chris Rock; they both deal with a lot of the same issues and anybody who's at all familiar with pop culture will easily get 90% of what's being said by comedians and rappers alike. It was high school kids who made that "I'm Rick James, bitch!" shit popular two years ago, anyway. So you can see, both have the ability to affect youth culture. But generally speaking, there's not nearly the same kind of negativity in black comedy that exists in gangster rap right now.As far as the Osbournes go, it's pretty obvious that they haven't had nearly the same cultural impact that rappers have had. I see plenty of kids wearing Roc-A-Wear or G-Unit sneakers and using hip-hop slang every day, but I can't recall the last time I saw someone dressed like Ozzy Osbourne.