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jeromechickenbone:
I agree with West Coast. Bush uses "God" in sentences like its a fucking comma. To many people, all a political leader has to do is say "God bless us all" and they will blindly support him because they have been fooled to believe it's the president's divine right. Wasn't America supposedly founded by individuals who were persecuted for their religious beliefs?
We supposedly have separation of church and state, but God's ass pops up everywhere within a legal / judicial system. "In God we trust", "One Nation Under God" (I prefer One nation under a groove), legitimizing testimony by swearing on the bible. It's all a way to prey on the ignorant.
Real American:
--- Quote from: we$t coa$t on May 16, 2006, 03:33:42 PM ---religion being used in politics?
I think it's bullshit
if u can't teach religion in a public school, then you should not speak through religion and use law-making based on religion and try to push for votes based on your religious beliefs, and using religion instead of common sense
i.e. - abortion, gay marriage, abstinence
in my opinion it's an act against humanity to publicly use it
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You can make strong arguements against abortion and gay marriage and in favor of abstinence without ever mentioning God or religion. Most people I know make sound, rational arguements regarding those issues without resorting to saying something like "because the Bible says so".
Teddy Roosevelt:
--- Quote from: we$t coa$t on May 16, 2006, 04:35:13 PM ---
--- Quote from: Dat Nigga Ted aka the 10th Nazgûl on May 16, 2006, 04:22:32 PM ---If it's a crime against humanity to tell people how to live their lives, then it's a crime against humanity to have governemnt.
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shit I'm not gonna say u don't have a point there, but we both know that if there was no govt (as shady as they can be) the world would be in shambles
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Damned if you do, damned if you don't. :P
--- Quote from: we$t coa$t on May 16, 2006, 04:35:13 PM ---
--- Quote from: Dat Nigga Ted aka the 10th Nazgûl on May 16, 2006, 04:22:32 PM ---That's true. But are you saying that it is okay to have a political view as long as it isn't influenced by religon? But it's the same as someone who doesn't beiilive in gay marriage because that's how they were raised or because they were raped by another man. In the end everyone is entitled to their own opinion regardless of how they came about it.
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exactly, u just proved my point, if ur gonna use religion in THAT manner about the gay marriage laws, then why ARENT the gays and lesbians able to do if their opinion and belief is so validated?
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I'm not even argueing the issue of gay marrige (I'm undecided/indiffrent on the subject). I'm just saying religon is the same as any other bias.
--- Quote from: we$t coa$t on May 16, 2006, 04:35:13 PM ---if someone wants an abortion, why can SOMEONE ELSE tell them they can't?
that's what some people wanna do, some people want to ban abortions.... and saying God doesn't want abortions because that's your belief is selfish as can be.... these weirdos for some reason want unwanted children in this world to bring more chaos with less morals
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Actually I think this issue has more to do with the overall aspect of murder (but religon does play its role).
WestCoasta:
--- Quote from: Jrome The Marauder on May 16, 2006, 04:40:14 PM ---It's all a way to prey on the ignorant.
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one time I saw a show on TV "Off to War" on one of the Discovery channels with a soldier who was visiting his mom from Iraq
they were watching a presidential debate between Bush and Kerry together at home
the soldier was sayin home dumb Bush is that first-hand he can say how meaningless the war is and that men are just dying overseas for nothing
and then his mother says when asked about Bush - "I voted for Bush... mainly because he shares most the same religious beliefs as I do."
so, great, you got a weirdo who's son was in Iraq and her own son tells her how terrible the whole situation is
and this bitch, probably too dumb to listen to actual debates regarding our well-being, chooses to vote for Bush even though she doesn't know what he's talking about.... talk about a smart person
victory - George Bush
Kassem:
i think its the people decision,if the majority of americans want gay marriages let them have it.in the middle east people will take koran as a constituation over any western law.its thier decision.
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