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virtuoso:

Regardless of where i stand on those topics you just mentioned and several others to, I don't believe that people have to leave their religious beliefs outside of politics, its what makes them, its part of their principles with someone who has been raised in a religious family then its a part of their moral makeup. For the record I am not religious, I have a belief in god but I don't follow any religious teachings I have my own opinions on what you mentioned. However to say that people should not have the right to bring their religious beliefs into politics is trampling all over free speech. I am sure there are many issues that I passionately disagree with you over and I am sure it is the same for many other people to but at the end of the day there are good people and there are those that are twisted or just downright foul people.

Besides which the religious side of things in american policics is all just a front, those are fake christians, my only point in favour of what you are saying is that people should think for themselves to, not simply quote from whichever passage in the bible they have heard or verse in the quaran they have read.

virtuoso:

it's difficult to say that though isn't it someone with a religious upbringing their views will have been influenced by the teachings and by the experiences of church so naturally their religious beliefs will form an integral part of their moral beliefs

WestCoasta:
I said these people shouldn't exploit and use religion as a crutch when it IS NOT RELATED to some topics

I didn't say they didn't have the right, the right they are using is WRONG is what I am saying, and it isn't fair


I want someone to answer me without bringing up "free speech" which doesn't pertain to this
I'm talking about the issues I mentioned in the first post
all the examples I used of how it is wrong to include religion in some subjects that determine things for others is right


and is it just me or do people realize AMERICA is a country of diversity and different religions?  why are we representing only one?

virtuoso:

i see we are going to disagree on this and will probably make no headway but to a religious family, religion will play a part in all topics like i said someone who has raised around religion their moral values will have been greatly influenced by religion so regardless of what topic, it will have relevance to them is what im saying.

WestCoasta:
okay, so it doesn't matter if it's right or wrong

if your religious, go by the book, regardless how you as a person feel


yikes!

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