Dre taking credit for production he didnt do

[eNgIeS]

Do you believe the stories about Dr.Dre's suposed stealing credit for other peoples work.

I know I'm gonna get flamed but I do believe to a certain extent. Sure I believe Dre is a great talent & I'm sure he does make alot of beats on his own.

However, theres a saying were theres smoke theres often a fire.

I mean, sure if it was one artist just claiming it, I wouldnt take notice but lets go thru a list of people who have complained about Dre's production being not really his

Above The Law's Bigg Hutch aka Cold187 (claims tracks on ZAGGIN4EFIL were made by him but Eazy gave Dre credit to please Dre & make Ruthless look stronger. Also claims that Dre overheard alot of his production & remade them almost identical for The Chronic)

Daz Dillinger aka Dat Nigga Daz (claims he & Dre's half brother Warren G produced alot of stuff on The Chronic & Doggystyle & Dre just mixed & changed & few things & put his name on it. Some Daz says he didnt even do that, like on High Powered, Rat Tat Tat Tat, Murder Was The Case, Aint No Fun, Serial Killa & few others.)

Warren G (Didnt complain but says Daz & him did do some work on The Chronic & Doggystyle but claims most of it was Dre's work. Then again, would you diss your half brother?)

Sam Sneed (Claims Dre jacked alot of credit for Dre's work from 1994-1996. He is now cool with Dre as a person but claims to not want to fuck with Dre musically because of what Dre suposedly did to him in the past)

J Flexx & Sean Barney Thomas (Almost identical to Sam Sneeds case, claiming they made California Love & Keep There Heads Ringin')

Scott Scorch (Apparently did alot of ghost production on 2001)

Mel Man (he gets his credit & he likes not being in the spotlight like Dre so he doesnt mind if he doesnt get all the credit & the fame)

Some Dude Suin Dre & Xzibit (Claims Dre stole his beat titled "West Coast" & used it on "X" by Xzibit)

As I said, theres alot of smoke, & often in that case, it means a fire.

Just my opinion, yours my be different but so be it.

[Hittman]

I'm Feeling What Your Saying.....Dre's Obviously Got Some Talent, But, You Never Know.

[2k2]

I somewhat agree wit your opinion. I think that Mel Man & Scott Storch are inspired by Dre's music.  As far as Daz and the others claiming they didn't get credit for their work on albums wit Dre. Why can't they make more than a few hot beats these days ? To me it looks like bitterness because Dre blew up and they are broke and he won't work wit them. If Dre did steal credit it seem like he pimped these so called gangstas/ thugs and made them look like lil b*tches. If thats the case its funny how a man that people call a studio gangsta can do so many *real g's* like that. When Detox drops with a new style we'll see how people start hating and say somebody else produced the album or Dre stole the ideas. People should give respect when it is due and I think Dre deserves every bit that he has gotten.

Peace

[4 KiN L]

i am sick of this kind of thing popping up....look at it this way...all the complaining comes from times like 'the chronic' days...when daz and warren g were only just coming out into the big world....but dre was already famous....so more ppl would wanna interview dre and make it look like he did more...and labels would wanna advertise the fact that dre did production to make it sell...but...other than word of mouth and ppl giving dre credit...daz'z name is written as small as dre's name in the album booklets....know what i'm saying? both their names go into the credits but more ppl made a big thing outta dre's production...that's all it is if u ask me!

[DPGC2001]

I think Dre did alot of that shit in the past but if you notice from 2001 and after he started giving credit to coproducers...Mike Elizondo is listed as coproducer on the 3 Last Meal cuts and on 2001 Mel-Man was credited with co-producing the album...Daz and Warren G for instance produced most of the 2nd half of Doggystyle...But when Dre heard it he wasn't feeling it so he went back and tweaked the tracks...So if anything Warren G and Daz should have been credited with coproduction but if you look back at Doggystyle there were no credits at all on the album...Anyway what I'm trying to say is that Dre is the one producing sometimes with co-producers but he always has a hand in everything he puts out...

[HBKid_Jr]

when did sam sneed complain,  if he was so against dre why didnt he come out an say dre was gay like suge wanted.  Warren G said himself that dre did majority of tha work on tha chronic an doggystyle.  U said that why would some1 diss there half brother,  well why did daz diss snoop than,  there cousins.  If daz did all this production of doggystyle why does all his stuff sound slightly above average now an that b/c of mike dean.  Look at all tha shit he produced on death row.  Either Dre or Quik overlooked it for him.  Same thing for cold187um,  if he is such a great producer than how come no1 knows who he is now,  fi he is a great producer he could came out an dropped some hot shit.  An back to Daz,  he didnt even know how to produce back in tha chronic days.  Tha only song on doggystyle that doesnt sound like dre is aint no fun which sounds like a warren G beat

[Don Seer]

j-flexx made that claim.

btw.. for the xzibit thing, the suit is layed @ scott storch's feet - and dre/mel-man etc (if its true) would not have known about it.

[min0rity]

me personally, i think that dre is one of the best producers and all but he gets TOO MUCH credit i mean peeps actually think that when he produces music, he does everything by HIMSELF..which is bullshit..i read this article about dre's production team and he has like 7 people or something (including scott storch and mel-man, etc.) so i feel that dre "oversees" everything and makes executive decisions when putting music out that was created by his teammates....i truly feel that after listen to "infamy" scott storch probably did do a lot of work on 2001 that he wasn't credited for cuz it has 2001 trademark written all over songs like "get at me", "live foul" (futuristic sounds)..just like daz and warren g did more work than they were credit for on chronic (daz were only credit for drums on rat-ta-tat-tat i think and warren g wasn't credit at all) don't start hatin thats just my opinion.......and for those who is saying dre basically did daz's production work...how the FUCK do you know if dre really did that? were you there in the studio when they were working??? i find it funny how when ANY rapper disses DRE its like this board automatically disses THAT RAPPER.....which proves this board is infested with too many ignorant dre dickriders......and btw the question shouldn't be "does dre take credit for work he didn't do?" cuz is obvious he has done it not a lot but quite a few over the years....the real question should be..."is dre a fraud?" i mean there has been too many accusations to just ignore this issue....and its also REAL funny how everytime a topic like this come up.."somebody" eventually locks it it seems like they don't want people discussing this cuz perhaps they don't want something that could hurt their heros fame or whatever

[Jome]

I feel what 2K2 & Tom says, if Dre was such a beat-jacker, how come he got these proteges allover the place:
MelMan
FredWreck
Scott Storch
Warren G
Battlecat
Meech Wells
JellyRoll
Eminem
All these are influenced by Dre, and they all say in interviews that Dre is some sort og magician/perfectionist that can make platinum out of a rock.
And let's look at the credibilty of those who claim Dre stole the credit:
Above the Law - I don't really know, but their affiliated with...
Suge Knight - Talks so much bullshit that even Suge-dickriders only believe 2% of what comes out of his mouth. Could easily have made Above the Law say this about Dre.
Daz Dillinger - Also talks a lot of shit, even about his cousin, and sounds jealous every times he speaks on other people, if that really is him on DPGRECORDS.COM then. If somebody "fell off" it's gotta be this kid. I can believe that he have produced something that he didn't get credit for, but that is probably because other producers (& Dre) needed to tweak it so much that it would sound nothing like the original, and therefore it would be unfair to credit Daz at all. I mean, even today he rarely produce something noteworthy.
Warren G - The most credible of all these, and he never really said that Dre jacked anybody. Today Warren's producing is top-notch, and according to himself, he owes it all to Dre. As a producer he can best be described as "Dre with a g-funk-twist"
Sam Sneed- I don't know
J Flexx - Don't know, but California Love sounds VERY Dre.
Scott Storch - Get's credit for everything he does for Dre, and they still work much together, I never heard him complain.
The dude that sued Storch/Dre/Mel - Never heard of him, gotta wait and see in the courtroom. Don't believe high-caliber producers like Dre/Melman/Storch would need to steal anything from a amateur.

[Antonio]

"Aint no fun" is everything but a Dr.Dre track. EVERYTHING!

Btw Dre is the greatest, no doubt. I mean.. look at history:

RUTHLESS - Dre was there
DEATH ROW - Dre was there
AFTERMATH - Dre was/is there
DOGG POUND - Dre is still there

But.. c'mon.. 1 guy claiming DRE stole his beat/credits is ok, but.. 10 guys? Mmmmm..


And about those guys doubting Warren G was good to make beats in 1993 (Doggystyle)...... FOOOOOOOOOOOLS! HE MADE AN ALBUM (A FUCKING 5 MICS ALBUM) IN 1994 ALONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Same with Daz Dillinger!!
HE MADE ANOTHER 5 MICS ALBUM IN 1995!!!!!!!!!!

[Dogg_Pound_Gangsta]

well dres a human and he aint perfect.  i think wit j flexx dre took the credit cuz j flexx didnt take it so dre took the rights to it cuz j flexx wasnt smart in this rap game.  correct me if im wrong.

[Joachim]

But.. c'mon.. 1 guy claiming DRE stole his beat/credits is ok, but.. 10 guys? Mmmmm..

For every 10 guys sayin Dre's a beat jacker, theres about 30 saying Dre's the greatest. So who you gonna believe a shady minority or the majority?

And Jome hit the nail on the head with his post.

[Antonio]

For every 10 guys sayin Dre's a beat jacker, theres about 30 saying Dre's the greatest. So who you gonna believe a shady minority or the majority?

And Jome hit the nail on the head with his post.

I am 1 of those 30, but.. this doest really matter, man! That's another thing. It's like to say that Pac is the greatest. But if he robbed the lyrics of a track from some1... he's still the greatest, but... you know... he still robbed him the lyrics. U know what i mean?

I think that everybody agrees that he's the Greatest ever, but.. but.. 10 guys.. professionists..


300 fans vs 10 of the greatest producers ever? mmmmm... i go with the 10 guys! i dunno you. But still he's the greatest.

[Joachim]

300 fans vs 10 of the greatest producers ever? mmmmm... i go with the 10 guys! i dunno you. But still he's the greatest.

I aint talking bout, for every 10 producers theres 300 fans, im sayin for every 10 producers theres 30 emcees/producers that say Dre's the greatest.

I see what your sayin IF Dre did/does jack beats, its wrong and shouldnt be tolerated, if i did aload of work and wasnt credited id be pissed too...

[Quadruple OG]

which version of Cali Love did J-Flexx claim Dre stole credit for, the remix that appeard on AEOM, or the one that most people think about (the one with the Mad Max video and the one on Pac's Greatest Hits)?  To me, the remix sounds like it could've been done by J-Flexx, and the original done by Dre