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Re: Dre taking credit for production he didnt do
« Reply #30 on: February 03, 2002, 02:06:12 PM »
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Making beats is only 50% of being a producer.  Dre is the real thing cause he does his other part in molding the delivery of the artist.  Other peeps who have been claiming this don't even take upon that responsiblilty like Daz and Hutch.  SO they shouldn't even open their mouth.  Go ask people Like Quincy Jones and Jimmy Iovine.




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and another vital asset of production is being able to mix your own tracks


daz warren and hutch (ithink)

all had dre mix their shit for YEARS, and even now have someone else mix their shit , mixin is basically the other 50% or so of producing
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Re: Dre taking credit for production he didnt do
« Reply #31 on: February 03, 2002, 03:10:15 PM »
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which version of Cali Love did J-Flexx claim Dre stole credit for, the remix that appeard on AEOM, or the one that most people think about (the one with the Mad Max video and the one on Pac's Greatest Hits)?  To me, the remix sounds like it could've been done by J-Flexx, and the original done by Dre


Both versions of California Love are REMAKES which sound almost identical to the originals.  To argue whether or not Dre 'stole' either of versions is silly to me.

Look, Dre isnt one of the most well-paid, well-known and well-respected producers in the world for nothing.  The nigga didnt get where he is at by being some kind of petty beat-thief.  Dre DESERVES everything he has.  He earned it and like it or not, Dre has a talented ear that not very many people are born with.
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Re: Dre taking credit for production he didnt do
« Reply #32 on: February 03, 2002, 04:09:56 PM »
Alot of you guys are getting all heated on this.

Geezz, CALM DOWN. Its just someones opinion.

Even if I said Dre is a shit producer, thats my opinion which i'm entitled to.

However I dont think that. Dre is a great producer, put I feel he always has people with him helping him & he probably used to take credit for some work.

Though he probably helped alot of people himself & never took credit.

Example, on Jay-Z's "Watch Me" it is so obvious its a Dre beat, yet Irv Gotti gets the credit for it in the booklet.

But theres no denieing that alot of the songs off Doggystyle sound like a Daz beat.

Then again, I believe Dre probably produced some stuff on Dogg Food & didnt get credit.

Its not a question of whether Dre is talented or not, because, he damn sure is, however, he has taken credit for SOME stuff he hasnt done. SOME, get it!. Meaning most of the Chronic, Doggystyle was his work, however Daz & Warren probably input there ideas & did alot of work on some of the songs.

But yall cant denie Daz is still a good producer, he can do good shit by himself. I remember reading Daz was at a radio station & he put togetehr a phat beat for there show intro in half an hour. As I said in the past, I think Daz's problem is that he is lazy & doesnt work hours & layer his shit like Dre does.

Dr. Dre is about an A+
Mel Man is a A-
Warren G is a B+
Daz is a B
Big Hutch is about a C- (man check out his work on the recent Death Row releases, alot of good tracks he turned shit with his reproduction of 2Pac & DPG songs)
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Re: Dre taking credit for production he didnt do
« Reply #33 on: February 03, 2002, 04:15:00 PM »
Warren G is better than just B+, U aint heard ROTR?
Daz is now currently C, used to be B-
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Re: Dre taking credit for production he didnt do
« Reply #34 on: February 03, 2002, 11:40:18 PM »
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Warren G is better than just B+, U aint heard ROTR?
Daz is now currently C, used to be B-


I got ROTR, its great, same with Regulate, but alot of Warrens work in between was just solid. He never made anything WACK as but he didnt make anything teribly good either.

BTW, I aint one to give away marks easy, from rating artists, producers, rappers, albums, songs, wrestling matches, PPV's whatever else u wanna say. I analyse well & dont give everyone & there mother 4.5 mics like everyone else seems to do these days
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Re: Dre taking credit for production he didnt do
« Reply #35 on: February 04, 2002, 02:01:19 AM »
Dr. Dre is about an A
Warren G is an A- (he's the best for his style, slow G-Funk. TWINZ'S CONVERSATION IS THE BETTER PRODUCED ALBUM EVER OF G-FUNK IN MY OPINION)
Mel Man is a ?? (need to listen to more tracks of him.. SOLO)
Daz is a B- (potentially he can be an A, but yes, he's lazy)
Big Hutch is about a C- (he ruined Pac)
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Re: Dre taking credit for production he didnt do
« Reply #36 on: February 04, 2002, 12:11:03 PM »
Dre=A+
Dj Quik= A
Warren G= B+
Hutch=D+ or a C-
Battlecat= C+ or B-
Soopafly= C
Daz C- (now) B when he's on point
mel man-A

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Re: Dre taking credit for production he didnt do
« Reply #37 on: February 04, 2002, 05:59:08 PM »
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Hutch=D+ or a C-


The man that produced "Black Superman" and all of ATL's classics is not a C- , and definitley a cookie-cutter lazy producer like Battlecat is not better than him.
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Re: Dre taking credit for production he didnt do
« Reply #38 on: February 04, 2002, 08:09:59 PM »
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The man that produced "Black Superman" and all of ATL's classics is not a C- , and definitley a cookie-cutter lazy producer like Battlecat is not better than him.



man i'm taking so many classes on production it's crazy, i know what i'm talking about , he hasn't been able to make a solid beat since dre left him with a nice little blueprint when he left  Ruthless, and even then he was on the mediocre side, i ain't tryin to cuase any friction here or start an argumen but  what he did to 2002 and UTEOT is almost unforgivable
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Re: Dre taking credit for production he didnt do
« Reply #39 on: February 04, 2002, 08:45:50 PM »
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Dr. Dre is about an A
Warren G is an A- (he's the best for his style, slow G-Funk. TWINZ'S CONVERSATION IS THE BETTER PRODUCED ALBUM EVER OF G-FUNK IN MY OPINION)
Mel Man is a ?? (need to listen to more tracks of him.. SOLO)
Daz is a B- (potentially he can be an A, but yes, he's lazy)
Big Hutch is about a C- (he ruined Pac)


 i heard that!! that twinz album might be the best g-funk album produced out there :D

and we do need to hear more of mel man ;)

im feelin for daz cuz he has been left out of the inner circle, he has NOBODY to rhyme over his shit, and he has no choice but to hustle the independant game... :-/

big hutch, mayn he had some wack beats on that latest pac cd... i dont know why suge fuckin with him ???
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Re: Dre taking credit for production he didnt do
« Reply #40 on: February 04, 2002, 11:30:52 PM »
Dr Dre is the hip hop best producer in the world, whether he was assisted or not.

Alot of the arguments put forth border on being plain silly, as most are no name hacks who are making a desperate claim at fame.

The others are simply pointless. Warren G said he did some of the work, so what?

I can't see this thread as being anything more than a pathetic attempt at degrading one of hop hops most important and loved figures.
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Re: Dre taking credit for production he didnt do
« Reply #41 on: February 05, 2002, 12:08:12 AM »
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Dr Dre is the hip hop best producer in the world, whether he was assisted or not.

Alot of the arguments put forth border on being plain silly, as most are no name hacks who are making a desperate claim at fame.

The others are simply pointless. Warren G said he did some of the work, so what?

I can't see this thread as being anything more than a pathetic attempt at degrading one of hop hops most important and loved figures.



Yeah? Cause everybody wrote Dre is the greatest of all time! Read again.. we are just commenting some quotes from other 10 producers we all love about Dre. We aint "degrading" nobody.
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Re: Dre taking credit for production he didnt do
« Reply #42 on: February 05, 2002, 05:03:19 PM »
Antonio,

About Dre's producing abilites, it is my firmly felt opinion if not yours.

As for the comments, as I pointed out very few hold any sort of water whatsoever, that is why I question the intent of the original poster.

It does appear an attempt to degrade Dre. ;)



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