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7-4 if you count the Tito fight. I thought Hoya dominated Tito. He was fighting smart and lost. I don't understand how he fell off. He won a lot of big fights and continued to go after the big fight. Hoya fought in era where there was great talent everywhere and he stood amongst them all. When they said he fell off, he beat the crap out of Fernando Vargas. He went out to prove he could be hopkins, lost. Took a long break and decided to come back against Mayorga. They said he wouldn't be the same, he was washed up, his skills had diminished.... well... if you saw that Mayorga fight, De La Hoya was toying with Mayorga.
You guys are all right. De La Hoya is in his prime...He didn't fall off one bit.
Quote from: Now_I_Know on June 23, 2006, 11:11:15 AMYou guys are all right. De La Hoya is in his prime...He didn't fall off one bit. Fighting dudes like Hopkins and losing is NOT a bad thing. Losing to a GREAT fighter like Mosely (even if it was twice) is NOT a bad thing. Sure, it's an L, but like I said, at least it's to High Caliber fighters. But you fail to realize that he also fought dudes like Gatti, Castillejo, Vargas, Mayorga, Campas etc. and won since his first loss. Those are good fighters as well and De La Hoya TKO'd most of them. But, of course, nobody is perfect. Look at Ali. He lost to Frazier (Beat him a few years later, 2 times), Norton (Beat him twice later), Spinks (Beat him later), Holmes (after a two year break from boxing) and one other time, I forget to who. But, it's no doubt that he was still great, even up until the end of his career. To say he fell off would be laughable. There comes a time in a person's career where they lose, they're only human. But, much like De La Hoya, even towards the end of his career, he took on a lot of fighters that were class fighters (Frazier, Norton, Spinks, Holmes etc.). Falling off is Tyson. After losing to one of the greatest to do it, Holyfield (twice) he went in a spiral. He had a few No Contests, lost to a good fighter in Lewis and so-so fighters like Williams and McBride. He beat a 3 or 4 medicore fighters, with Savarese being the only one of semi-importance. THAT'S falling off.
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Of course, Tyson fell off much harder than De La Hoya did, but that doesn't mean De La Hoya is still on top of his career...De La Hoya 1999 >> De La Hoya 2006...PeACe
Quote from: Now_I_Know on June 24, 2006, 11:18:44 AMOf course, Tyson fell off much harder than De La Hoya did, but that doesn't mean De La Hoya is still on top of his career...De La Hoya 1999 >> De La Hoya 2006...PeACeNot being on the top of his career and falling off are completely different things. De La Hoya still has a lot of fight in him and has proved it by beating the shit out of Campas, Mayorga and Vargas. Those fights showed De La Hoya in top form. Hell, even when he lost to Mosely and Trinidad, he was still showing a whole lot of fight. Outside of getting Knocked Out by Hopkins, he never really had a fight that he lost where it was one-sided. I don't see how anyone could say he fell off.
Na... Oscar has not fell off. Sure, he's not the Golden Boy he was 10 years ago, but he's still whooping people as if that was the case. He got out-classed a few times, it happens. Doesn't mean he fell off. Means he finally met his match in Mosely and Hopkins (Not Trinidad, cuz it's very obvious that he got cheated out of that fight). Oscar is still one of the best fighters in Boxing.