Question Of The Week: What Will Snoop's Legacy Be?

[Dogg_Pound_Gangsta]

Doggystyle - One of the best albums to ever grace Hip Hop.

i agree


Peace

[HBKid_Jr]

he be remembered for 2 things,  changin tha game when he first was introduced to tha world,  an bein one of tha biggest underacheivers ever

[.:Hercy Buggz:.]

His Hair(even know that its not longer like his doggfather years )
His Funny Side
The most regonize voice
The King of Slang
His Flow
His style (Straight West Coast)

[topdogg187]

i think snoop will be remembered as one of the greatest rappers and IMO the greatest rapper of all time. to all the people who doubt that he will be remembered as one of the greatest then just wait till he drops heat on his next album then all the fucken haters will start jumpin on his bandwagon again.

[Alex_Wreck]

He will probably sadly have the dreaded NAS legacy; released an absolutely classic, amazing First album.... but never quite got it back after that...

Too bad

[Sub-Z]

I think he will be remembered more for his death row days. Although he will always be remembered by me as the annoying one with a stupid voice!

[Nosak]

he will be remembered fo his first album thats it ,most of them people out there think that the shit that came after are bullshit so....


even if he retired from rap. he will still be in the public eyes with all  his business going on...  maybe  he'll catch one of them bad lung cancer .... hope not  

[Big BpG]

I Think Snoop Will Be Rememberd In Two Ways...

The Average Fans
The average fan will see Snoop as a fake or a complete character. His Doggystyle album will always be considred a classic, but his music from that point on will be considered as bullshit...

The Critics
The Critics will see Snoop as a complete artist who can bring the music he wants and still get respect for it. Back in 1993, Critics claimed Snoop as the future of Funk. Now 8 years later, he is the Funk. He and Outkast are the two mainstream tunnels to the Funk. Critics love this as an art... and will praise him.

Me
To me Snoop will be considered the imbodiment of a true man. He went from nothing to something and instead of taking it to his head he made his life better, made better choices and his music became more personal for that. His music now is a lot more than Bitches and Hoes, however, all his mainstream hits contrast this. To me Snoop will be one of the greatest of all time.

-Big BpG

[Nosak]

I Think Snoop Will Be Rememberd In Two Ways...

The Average Fans
The average fan will see Snoop as a fake or a complete character. His Doggystyle album will always be considred a classic, but his music from that point on will be considered as bullshit...

The Critics
The Critics will see Snoop as a complete artist who can bring the music he wants and still get respect for it. Back in 1993, Critics claimed Snoop as the future of Funk. Now 8 years later, he is the Funk. He and Outkast are the two mainstream tunnels to the Funk. Critics love this as an art... and will praise him.

Me
To me Snoop will be considered the imbodiment of a true man. He went from nothing to something and instead of taking it to his head he made his life better, made better choices and his music became more personal for that. His music now is a lot more than Bitches and Hoes, however, all his mainstream hits contrast this. To me Snoop will be one of the greatest of all time.

-Big BpG

dawm , thats how it will be .  the part of the AVERAGE FANS is very true tho ,  one thing missing , the true fans .. whut do u think they will think of him .... i think they will act like the critics.. I MEAN TRUE FANS NOT FAKE ASS ONES

[PLANT]

i think snoop will be remembered as one of the greatest rappers and IMO the greatest rapper of all time. to all the people who doubt that he will be remembered as one of the greatest then just wait till he drops heat on his next album then all the fucken haters will start jumpin on his bandwagon again.

fa shizzle

[myrealname]

"Snoop needs to focus more on one thing rather than 100000000000 different things @ once. " W-O-R-D-

He wanna be an actor,singer,designer,Ceo,writer.

Do one thing.....do it right!
This is the best advise for Snoop and his career.

[myrealname]

Those lines comes from another board,and i agree 100%
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"I am, for one. I say fuck Snoop. For the simple fact that he's not being real any more. He's letting the money-making get into his head - so its all business to him. Thats y he's abandoned Nate & Warren G. Same with DPG. Kurupt always shouts out Snoop and shit in interviews, and there's a guest spot here or there - but you can tell that Kurupt, Daz, Nate, Warren G aren't as close to him as they once were. Nowadays Snoop is all about making his money via movies or Dogghouse.

And we get TOKEN DPG appearances and mentions. The 213 album will be garbage (if it ever comes out) if Snoop stays like this. The DPGC album will be the same - unless Daz can take control of it.

For Snoop his musical priority is Dogghouse and all his acts on it. U think he's with Bad Azz cuz of love for a DPG family? Fuck no. He was down with Bad Azz from way back - and now he's just helping the guy cuz Priority fuck'd up his 1st album. But you best believe that if Bad Azz didn't want his album to come out on Dogghouse - then Snoop wouldn't touch it. Maybe a few guest spots or some help - but not major influence.

That's what's wrong with Snoop's ATTITUDE.

As for his own music - he lost his passion and his fire years ago. We only see the best of him like 5% of the time these days. I used to think it was Dre which inspired him (in about '98 - when they did some new shjit) - but now that relationship became business and commercial. They live off name and rep - their new shit is garbage compared to what they were capable of back then.

His flow is completely lost. And that makes him a different rapper to 1991-1995. So I judge him as a new rapper since then.

And Snoop isn't being real to himself. He likes to SAY he's spiritual, a child of God etc. - but when it comes down to it, he just follows a formula. He hasn't put much deeper shit out in years - the closest was "Be Thankful" and "LBC Thang" on the 1st Eastsidaz. That unreleased track "Last Man Standing" is also a good one.

But I don't respect him as a rapper anymore - because he's not doing what he should. I mean - if you wanna be gangsta and hard, fine. But don't then act like you're spiritual. DOn't be 2 faced. If you wanna have both - then put out both types of content in your lyrics.

I just don't like what he's become - he shouldn't be doing what he is. He should put family and reality first - then business. Right now he got enough money to live the rest of his life. So why not get back to basics and be real with your fans and yourslef and the public? You got nothing to lose - you're set for life.

I really hope he can change - but if not then Im glad that at least there's one good thing out of all this - he's providing jobs and money for a lot of people, and keeping his family well-supported."
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"Of course he got "love" for his homies - but it isn't the type of love they had before. Nowadays Snoop is simply not hanging out with them anymore - or at least not to the level they were back in the day. I was wrong to blame him completely for it - because the Death Row breakdown fucked them up - it split them all. But after that - what reason do they have NOT to come back together? It's been close to 4 years since EVERYONE's off the label - and we don't hear a lot of DPG family shit. And I don't mean a guest appearance - like eg. Snoop would be on an "outside" artist's work. Sure Snoop is on here and there with a guest spot - and occassionally he'll rep DPG. But you listen to his guest spots on DPG albums. The closest we ever came to the DPG family vibe after 96 was on Kurupt's '99 album - those 2 posse cuts. Most of the rest doesn't seem to have heart in it.

As for Bad Azz's album being made possible by Snoop - wake the fuck up! It was GONNA come out before Snoop got involved! Bad Azz has had his deal at Priority for YEARS. And his album was ready and about to drop. It woulda suffered from poor promotion etc = but it woulda come out nonetheless. So don't act like Bad Ass is some hungry starving rapper that needed his superstar cousin (they are cousins) to help him get an album released - cuz thats a lie. Snoop stepped in cuz he wanted to help his family, his homie from the ORIGINAL DOggystyle Records. And he wanted to take Bad Azz to the new Dogghouse label. read the interviews about this - Bad Azz says Snoop is gonna be buying out that Priority contract. Thats why Snoop got involved - he's gonna bring Bad Ass onto his own label. If there was no chance of that happening - then you think Snoop would be so heavily involved in Bad Azz's career?

As for being on Warren G's album - same shit as I said above. It's totally artificial. It's just a few songs here and there - and those songs don't feel real. The "Game DOn't Wait" and "Firends" tracks were recorded in 97/98 (when Snoop had his head on right). The shit they recorded after that - you can hear that it isn't as good as it could be. So fucking what if he guests on an album? Is fuckin Ludacris Nate Dogg's closest homie? Just cuz you put in an appearance - doesn't mean you genuinely put your all into it. Like I said - I view Snoop's work with Nate and Warren and even Kurupt - as TOKEN. To me it's not real unless he's working with them closely a lot more - and he's in it for the DPG family, not just giving his former clique members a superstar guest spot on their albums.

as for spirituality - 2Pac is the perfect example of how you CAN have those 2 sides to you. Pac made BOTH kinds of music - his lyrics were focussed on BOTH. He did some rider shit, and a lot of deeper shit. But Snoop? Snoop stays 95% gangsta/pimp/diss shit - and then there's a few lines or verses that's actually about someting that's relevant.

A lot of Snoop's lyrics really aren't about anything. The most meaningful shit he's done latel - I think - is when he addressed beefs. Other than that it's all about being hard and pimping and other shit. That shit is fine - but he's been around 10 years - maybe it's time to grow up. Keep your pimp shit and image - but start dropping some educational and inspirational shit once in a while. Otherwise you're just carrying on in your comfort zone. That's his problem - he's not trying to evolve or grow artistically.

For him the only growth he's been having is working with outside guests or producers. Lyrically he's stuck in a lot of dead-end bullshit.

But that's what a lot of rap is stuck in right now. All I know is I used to think Snoop was better than most - so I expected him to push the boundaries and keep trying to be ahead of the game lyrically. BUt it seems like he doesn't wanna do that. My comments about his spirituality and religion come from reading his book. You would think this man is gonna become a bonafide conscious rapper after hearing what he says in the book. But 2 years after he wrote it - he shows zero movement towards his aims of "Educate, Elevate and Spread the music".

He's not educating - he's just carrying on the same messages he used to. He's sure as hell not elevating his listeners or giving us someting REAL to think about. All he's elevating is his finances and that of those around him - which is great. But if you're in a position to make a difference - if you have a multi-million audience; and you claim to be on a mission and know your path in life - then you really have to try and make an impact and try to change the world. That's drastic - but its like with the original gangsta rap - NWA and Ice T. They were bringing things into the open - educating the masses. Their music was meaningful cuz it was providing a service and educating middle-America and the people whjo never thought about their life.

That stage has long passed - 10 years on. And is Snoop trying to bring a new education or something new to the world? That old shit was revolutionary. Now i don't expect Snoop to be revolutionary - but he could at least recognize that he HAS to make an effort. He has to start getting involved in politics and social issues - if not in reality themn in his music. Because music is what hits the masses - and he should be using his position to spread education and push for change."

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[myrealname]

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"Tha content of his music lately has been retarded lately (for tha mosts part) i also speak about Dre on this as well, but i regognize game when he makes a phat track. Think about it....Dre, Snoop. What have they been rappin about lately? Hoez, weed, hoez, drinkin, HOEZ....HOEZ damnit, that wasnt tha only thing they were rappin about back then, i mean whatever happened to that "smooth" shit? "murder was tha case" was a uniqu think to rap about. u know..songs mabe that are just about kickin it wit ya homies. Nowadays "new" rap has nothing to say more than "fuck-a-hoe" "eat a dick". i used to like that shit but they (Dre, Snoop) use it soo often their tracks seem to be very abstract

I hate Snoop for not collaboratin wit DPG mostly, when he first made Eastidaz i thought, it was phat. but after a while i came to realize he pretty much ditched Daz & Kurupt. i can understand that he bringin Tray Dee & Goldie Locc up, but he needds to work wit his ol folks if he wanna actuallly make hits. As far as bein "real", i have a mixed thoughts about that subject. tha first thing u gotta understand about tha rap game now iz that "Itz all about tha $$$" i dont think Snoop cares any less, what better way to do it than collaboratin wit more peeps? especially east coast rappers. i hate him more for makin hit tracks wit E. Coast. Imagin "do u wanna roll" WITOUT Lil Kim, and replace her wit....Jewell or Daz (use ur imagination), sounds like an idea to me.

Tha westcoast has a problem with publicity now a days, which kinda explains y u dont hear much frum them.

bottom line advice: Snoop, whould use his infamous "doggystyle" label holla @ all former DR artists, producers, etc. Reform another label like Deathrow. be a lil more creative and quit bein too mellow on tha rappin. block out eastcoast artists, USE Daz for beats more often, stop usin Battlcat. Fuck tha publicity, because ittle come when things are back to tha way they were. (easier said than dunn)

I still got luv for his music though......its just not as good as it used to be though (of course)"
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"No Speak - hate to say it but the dude is right. DPG has tight LYRICS, yes - but their ocntent has always been pretty much meaningless. It's either beef, or bitches or weed or violence. Once in a blue moon we'll get some intelligent themes like "Thank God For My Life", "These Days", "Be Thankful", "LBC Thang", "Feels Good" (the Daz one and the original Eastsiders one) and a few others. It's not just "lately" that Snoop's shit has been retarded (as you call it). His least meaningless period was Doggfather - but there he had lost a lot of his flyness and flow - so it didn't hit as hard as his party shit or gangsta shit from Doggystyle. I think Snoop's only hope of any kind of decent content nowadays would be storytelling. Otherwise he got nothing to say that he hasn't said before. It's sad that his more intelligent-themed songs like "Last Man Standing" and "Bacctraccin'" aren't being used. This is why I say he should retire unless he's serious about making a proper comeback and a difference with his music. Right now he's steady on his double platinum every release - but he's happy with that. I heard him blaming No Limit for being crummy the other day - well what the hell are MCA gonna do to blow him up? The problem has always been with him - not the label. He needs to get back to his essence and make music that his original fans want - because the new fans (a.k.a. "we like Snoop because he's down with Dre, who's down with Eminem") just take whatever is fed to them. They never witnessed his "birth" into a superstar - so they don't know any better. All they can do is listen to us and hear Doggystyle and say "Doggystyle was his best album", but he's still such a dope rapper etc etc. . When the original fans all know that it's bullshit - and Snoop isn't 20% of the rapper he once was.

What gets me - like you - is that he's not TRYING to get back to his best. He just sits on his bullshit phoney idea of him being respected for his talent nowadays - when the truth is he's living off rep alone. If he came out today as a brand new artist who no-one ever heard of, he wouldn't do too well. If he had the right marketing and promotion and hype around him - then he'd get about Gold or Platinum, just like Xzibit's new stuff. But he would not be hailed as such a great rapper.

As for Dre - the dude is so old that I'm glad he realized he had to change. He knew it back in 96 - but that shit didn't work in the market. So he went back to gangsta, But "2001" had some real content-growth. His new shit is stand-alone though, so we don't hear like a whole EP or album from him where he can cover a range of issues. That's why it'll all be hoes and weed - because something like "The Message" would not blow up as a single.

I wouldn't say we should "hate" Snoop for ditching the Pound - cuz he's still doing a lot for them. It's just that money is ruling his decisions nowadays - and that's the root of the problem. The reason he's working with the East Coast is cuz he CAN. Suge would never dream of letting Snoop get over-exposed and collaborate with 90% of the industry. If Snoop had to collaborate or do shit with a female or another raper - it had to be someone in the Death row family. So in a way thats the reason why he could never expand his horizons. And while that was wrong and limitted him - it proved who Snoop makes the best music with. You shouldn't hate the East Coast collaborations - because that's about the only Westside artist who'l get on the radio over there. He's basicaly the token West Coast artist now for a lot of these industry stars. At least we have a representative there - which is a lot more influence than back in 1997 and 1998 when the West Coast was dead to the mainstream. Now we need some talented people like Quik, WC and TQ to ride this West Coast resurgence wave and put us back in the spotlight. Cuz right now it's based almost completely on Snoop & Dre. Hopefully this "Rime" magazine is gonna be able to chip away at the East and South markets - and i'm glad that i'm gonna be writing for them.

Your bottom line is what I always wanted: a complete Death Row reunion roster - without Suge. Only thing is Rage is part-time and some of the original DR producers/music-makers like Carl "Butch" Small and Barney Thomas are still tied to tha Row. But if Fred Wreck, Meech and Battlecat are RATIONED (so their shit is kept to a low, and doesn't end up being repetitive) then we have an excellent foundation. Throw in Soopafly, Daz and Warren G and there's the West Coast dream team assembled (minus DJ Quik of course).

As for things being the way they were - yo know it'll never be the same; and as long as money rules the decisions of the key figures - there'll be no effort to get back to that family vibe. Wich is why Nate and Warren need to say fuck Snoop, and do the 213 album themselves - with a few guest spots from The Twinz, Dove Shack and all those other original LBC homies - and then a little of Daz, Kurupt, Soop, Tray Dee and a little Snoop (but only his best work).

But content-wise Snoop and co. have not evolved or matured much from when they started. It's cool for a bunch of young guns to be rapping about all that; but now almost all of them are enar 30 - and they need to grow up and think about putting some meaning into their music. Espicially Kurupt, and probably Daz & Snoop too. But Tray Dee and Bad Azz - I can see they are very capable of doing what's right. The rest need to catch a wake-up on what's important and what's not."
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I AGREE 100% IN ALL OF THAT POSTS

what's your thoughts?

[Siberian_Wolf]

I cant even understand how anyone could spend so much time to type down this ton of COMPLETE BULLSHIT!!!!! Hatin on Snoop is not the point here.


Anyway, Snoop showed me how to:
1. Be able to make classic albums.
2. Handle the stardom.
3. Stay positive after all sufferings and difficulties of life (just remember that he always smiles when life acts a bitch!)
4. Be a good family man
5. Have real fun
6. Stay true to his style after switchin a bit
7. Be versatile as HELL in his music
8. Make fans turn their faces back to him
9. Elevate with each and every appearance
10. Leave past in the past
11. Stay shiny and good looking
12. NEVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER GIVE UP!!!!!!!!!!!

His experience made me keep my head up when times were hard. He made me a man I am now. What else could I wait for? Snoop is the MAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[.:Hercy Buggz:.]

I dont Know why That fool is hatin but I gotta say that Snoop is Tha Man and if he wasnt that great he wouldnt have been everywhere...its because they know that he is versatile he already collaborate with:Jay Z
                                Jadakiss
                                Kid Rock
                                Method Of Mayem
                                Jermaine Dupri
                                Wu Tang
                                Babyface & others

Also the fact he pissed on the other DPG's is not true.

Kurupt was N Every DoggHouse project since the begining
Nate Dogg Was N Every DoggHouse project since the begining
Warren G did some Production 4 the Label
Dre is Down with the Label
Soopafly is On the label

so the Only  who's missin is Daz and he did say that R cool but they're not gonna work together again

And 4 his lirics ...His lirics changed since 96 because of the Trial he had for the murder thing

And Everybody Like Snoop now He is Everywhere and making Good things

So U should Stop Hatin On him Cause Im sure ur gonna buy his new Album when it will be out