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Re: WEST IS DEAD? SOLUCTIONS!!
« Reply #15 on: December 19, 2001, 01:00:19 PM »
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That's why The Chronic is classic! Cause they spent a lot of time together to make it!!!!! TOGETHER!!! Warren G, Daz and Soopa helped Dre with the production, Snoop helped Dre with the lyrics (not sure, but.. i bet it!), etc.. U know what i mean???? Together! I cant really understand why the fuck Warren G aint in the Nate album. Is Nate stupid? Why Dre aint in Warren G's album? Damn, even Warren G dont know why!!!!
Why is Daz dissing Snoop & Dre? Fuck that. Take it personal and work with em, fool!! They made you! Why they aint making a 213 album? Why they aint making an NWA album?



actuallly Dr. Dre is on Warren g's new cd....
soopafly wasn't even around when the chronic was made
warren and daz didn't "help" dre make the chroni...warren and the rest of the dpg have siad that dre produced 90% of the chronic ....the glove was the only other producer to put ANY input in on that album....warren and daz were learning from dre back then
the 213 alum is coming in 2002.,..warren even says it on his new album
daz has squashed his beef with snoop and dre


so please make more concious posts and speak on stuff you know about
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Re: WEST IS DEAD? SOLUCTIONS!!
« Reply #16 on: December 19, 2001, 01:40:03 PM »
1. Dre aint in the Warren G CD. He just produced 1 track.
2. Soopa was a friend of Daz. He didnt have a track rapping, and he didnt produced tracks, but he was close with Daz and Snoop. Ok, maybe not in Tha Chronic, but in the 1992-1996 era he helped for sure
3. About Warren G and Daz, just read those interviews of Daz saying this shit. The "Dre took all the credits" shit. Plus i didnt wrote they produced tracks, but that they helped
4. 213 album in 2002? Mmmmm.. like the NWA album? Or like the DPGC album? Talk talk talk! But Warren said that he personally doesnt know a shit about the album. Who will make it if Warren doesnt even know about it? Snoop alone? Snoop + Goldie + Kokane? Who?
5. Daz - But he aint working with em. And Daz said he'll never work with Dre again.
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Re: WEST IS DEAD? SOLUCTIONS!!
« Reply #17 on: December 19, 2001, 02:09:18 PM »
ha ha , anyways  ::)

this is whut tha 3/4 of the eastcoast think like u said b4.. thats it. we ain't living by the east but by the entire rap game , east west south , mid west etc.... and i disagree with most of it xzibit was hott. dr.dre , hmm.. nuff said... snoop ... still hott. even when he drop tha last meal , he was #4 i think , because of the backstreets boys, the beatles n some other thang.. that ain't his fault , he just drop a bad day..  but he still sold 400.000 the first week.. n he's from the west so that good , really good , snoop n dre are the only who sold a lot in the first week like that .. the won't fell off...hmm next , naww fuck dat. i said enough
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Re: WEST IS DEAD? SOLUCTIONS!!
« Reply #18 on: December 19, 2001, 02:21:35 PM »
Once again I totally disagree. Everything you said was complete nonsense, even your marks on Snoop not being able to rap anymore... you obviously have not heard his recents songs, but then again, you thought he died when Doggfather came out. I don't know how you can diss Dre... you try to tell me that he isn't good because he produces for Eminem and Mary J Blige... considering they represent the best in their music (Rap & R&B) ... Then you try to tell me Warren dropped a peice of shit, but his album is one of the best Westcoast albums since 2001. It's also one of the best overall albums this year. Then you spit nonsense on how Nate Dogg is just terrible. Now I'll give you two pennies for your thought, but the album is not all you make it out to be. If Nate was so terrible how come he was featured on almost every major release this year? Then you have this theory about Xzibit and how Restless was a disgrace, I was almost waiting for the audience to gasp at that comment, but I saw tomatoes fly in your direction. Xzibit's album was one of the best last year and is one of the best Westcoast albums...

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Re: WEST IS DEAD? SOLUCTIONS!!
« Reply #19 on: December 19, 2001, 02:43:48 PM »
Man.. is it 4 am over there? Cause u obviously didnt read what i wrote well!  ;D

First of all i think Warren G's album is the best not only of 2001, but of 2000 too. Where u read about me saying that his album is bullshit???? In no way, man!!

Where i dissed Dre for working with Eminem & Mary J.Blige? Man.. i just wrote what i heard from other guys, expecially from guys from Europe or East Coast. It's the same with Snoop Dogg, man. I wrote: "You all know what the whole East Coast fans and 3/4 of the West Coast fans think about him NOW.......". I was talking like i was one of em, but i'm obviously here in this West Coast Board cause i'm a fan, not an hater.

About Nate & Xzibit... well... again i reported what i've heard, but.. to tell you the truth.. I dont really like Nate's album (even if Nate is on fire this year) and about Restless, i'm not the only one who thinks it's Xzibit's worse album ever. I think 90% of the guys (not ONLY West Coast dickriders) can admit it.

Again.. dont blaime me! I'm a West Coast fan. I just wrote this shit to report what other guys thinks about West Coast rappers now. You cant totally ignore this shit, man! Open your eyes! They are having problems with sales, and that's a fact. West Coast rap aint in the same level of East Coast right now (RIGHT NOW). They need to fix something, to change something. Nas sold very well in his first week, same with Ludacris. Well... West is not on the map right now.

The reasons? Dont dickride, but use your mind.

I told you my opinion (a lack of a classic album, with em all together + the fact that recent albums aint in the same level as the 1992-1996 ones).

Mack_11 gave me his opinion (thanx). But i'm not hearing opinions. Just dickriders dickriding. THESE ARE NOT MY OPINIONS. And you dont have to explain me that West Coast rappers are better than East Coast ones. Or that Mary J.Blige and Eminem are ok. I know this shit.

I was talking about problems with sales and opinions of the whole world but US 100% WEST COAST FAN. U know what i mean?

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Re: WEST IS DEAD? SOLUCTIONS!!
« Reply #20 on: December 19, 2001, 02:51:37 PM »
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i just wrote what i heard from other guys, expecially from guys from Europe or East Coast.

thats what u should do , that why people dissagree with you

but i'm obviously here in this West Coast Board cause i'm a fan, not an hater.

that don'T mean shit, we got all kind of bitches up in here.  ;D

I just wrote this shit to report what other guys thinks about West Coast rappers now.

once again , u here to make your opigion ,not to write the other one.. n if u report so shit , they can be facts , like if u take then frm another site. but still feel free to wrote whats on your mind dogg ;)

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Re: WEST IS DEAD? SOLUCTIONS!!
« Reply #21 on: December 19, 2001, 02:52:44 PM »
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Wassup Gz? I was thinking about the lack of sales of Nate & Warren. You know what? I think i know why West Coast artists aint selling so much. Some of you are too much dickriders to realize that. Too much fans. But u sell a lot of albums if non-fans buy em. So you gotta care about em!

Lemme explain, by calling out the most famous West Coast rappers by names.

SNOOP DOGG
You all know what the whole East Coast fans and 3/4 of the West Coast fans think about him NOW. He used to be a tight MC, maybe the best. But NOW he cant even rap. He's just too high. And he talks!!!! He doesnt rap no more. Just listen to The Chronic and Doggystyle and you'll notice it. Totally different rapper. NOW he's a wack MC trying to sound like a G. Pathetic, cause he can't even scare his kids with his voice. I mean... c'mon!! If you a fan, you'll reply by saying that he's tight as fuck, that you love him, etc... but..... i repeat.... you aint a number 1 because of your fans, but because of ALL the guys (FANS or NOT) who buy your CDs. So they gotta care about what 90% of the rap fans (East-West) thinks about em.

DR. DRE
He made what i consider the best Gangsta rap album ever, The Chronic. He's still the number one, but.. c'mon.. you cant be Dr.Dre, an NWA member, a though guy, a GANGSTA... and work with Eminem and Mary J.Blige. I'm not saying they aint good (it's not about that), but.. c'mon!!!! Mmmmm.. He's still the number one, but.. His problem is different than Snoop's one. He just gotta produce gangsta beats, but he aint shit alone, we all know it. He NEEDS a DPGC album, or a The Chronic 2 album.

KURUPT
Simple as that: his last album is garbage compared to THA STREETZ IZ A MUTHA, and expecially compared to the Kurupt of Tha Chronic and Doggystyle. Totally different. And it's a shame cause he CAN be the number 1 MC of the West. A shame. He really needs to back to his 1992-95 flow. Or at least he needs to make an hardcore album, not a pop album. It's Over? C'mooooooooooonnnn!!

DAZ DILLINGER
He's pratically dead! I mean.. where the fuck is Daz?? Dont tell me WHO RIDE WIT US is an official album. It's a joke! Plus wassup with MAKAVELI & DILLINGER? Just a question: WHY?

SOOPAFLY
Better as a producer than as a rapper. He can hardly rap. Simple as that. His album proved it.

WARREN G
He was dead in the last 3 years. No TV, no RADIO, no collaborations, no MTV or SOURCE AWARDS, nothing. How can he thinks that he can back and sell a platinum album like that?

NATE DOGG
The album is 10x worse than the Warren G one. Just 2-3 good tracks, the rest aint good. His voice is unique. But damn...!!!! Wassup with Daz? Wassup with Warren G??????

XZIBIT
Only one thing: RESTLESS is a disgrace!


How can they think, after all this shit, to make albums like everyday and to sell platinum? It's impossible. I mean guys thinks that West Coast is dead. Simple as that. And you dont go platinum if East Coast fans dont buy your shit too, or if ALL the West Coast fans think that you can still make a great album.

THE SOLUCTION?
Well.. personally i think the only soluction is to make a GREAT West Coast album. Something like THE CHRONIC, executive produced by Dr.Dre (tha best), and with all the best rappers in it. A classic. Guys GOTTA say: "Hey... u heard those West Coast fools? They can still rap!!!". Then they'll buy shit again. For sure.

But what can they say now? "Hey.. u heard Snoop? He still talks about being a G!! Hahahahah.. he's more soft and wack than Eminem! LOL!"

That's the point. They GOTTA work on this shit. They NEEDS this album, for real. 213, NWA or THA CHRONIC2, i dont care. Fuck the beefs, fuck Daz vs Snoop & Dre, fuck all this shit!! THEY GOTTA PROVE THEY CAN STILL RAP! Prove first, sell lata. After Pac's death... tell me a single GOOD album. I mean.... A CLASSIC!! After 1996. MMmmmmmmmmm... dont tell me Dre 2001 is classic. Or that The Wash is classic. Etc.. C'mon!! Just 1!!!!! How can they think to sell platinum albums??????


I agree 100% on everything you just said. Unfortunately, all the Snoop dickriders are going to jump on you for merely telling the truth.
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Re: WEST IS DEAD? SOLUCTIONS!!
« Reply #22 on: December 19, 2001, 02:55:30 PM »
[size=200]why u trippin over the snoop dogg fan once again , u provoque us , thats why we jump on you , not because u gave your opigion , dawm ::).... oh, n u didn't say why u totally agree, r u agreeing just to make us sick or u got your reasons ???[/size]
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Re: WEST IS DEAD? SOLUCTIONS!!
« Reply #23 on: December 19, 2001, 02:59:43 PM »
Hey hey.. chill!  ;D

I think your are watching at this post in the wrong way! It's not about IS SNOOP STILL GOOD?

It's about: Ok, they got problems. Why? How to solve em? I wanna read opinions about it, not about Snoop, ok?
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Re: WEST IS DEAD? SOLUCTIONS!!
« Reply #24 on: December 19, 2001, 04:10:45 PM »
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Hey hey.. chill!  ;D

I think your are watching at this post in the wrong way! It's not about IS SNOOP STILL GOOD?

It's about: Ok, they got problems. Why? How to solve em? I wanna read opinions about it, not about Snoop, ok?

i ain't talkin bout u , but bout c walker calling out snoop's dickrider , in reference bpg n i . so
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gives me dopeness"                                   

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Re: WEST IS DEAD? SOLUCTIONS!!
« Reply #25 on: December 19, 2001, 04:46:18 PM »
hey man i'm not dickridin shit. you state your opinion and you want people to respect it? well how about when somebody else expresses their opinion you not immediately label them dickriders. a lot of these posts weren't arguin with you, they were correcting some of your statements that were inaccurate. so just relax a little
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Re: WEST IS DEAD? SOLUCTIONS!!
« Reply #26 on: December 19, 2001, 05:34:07 PM »
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1. Dre aint in the Warren G CD. He just produced 1 track.
2. Soopa was a friend of Daz. He didnt have a track rapping, and he didnt produced tracks, but he was close with Daz and Snoop. Ok, maybe not in Tha Chronic, but in the 1992-1996 era he helped for sure
3. About Warren G and Daz, just read those interviews of Daz saying this shit. The "Dre took all the credits" shit. Plus i didnt wrote they produced tracks, but that they helped
4. 213 album in 2002? Mmmmm.. like the NWA album? Or like the DPGC album? Talk talk talk! But Warren said that he personally doesnt know a shit about the album. Who will make it if Warren doesnt even know about it? Snoop alone? Snoop + Goldie + Kokane? Who?
5. Daz - But he aint working with em. And Daz said he'll never work with Dre again.



1. you JUST contradicted yourself
2. Soopafly wasn't doing crap on the row until 96'....and that's a fact
3. i trust what warren, snoop, and basically everyone else on the chronic says over what Daz says becuase Daz is a proven liar and exadurator plus suge was talking through him
4. dude you fucking don't own Return of the Regulaor do you where warren says "213, it's comin, so start the tape decks runnin"....and every time i've seen interviews wher they ask about the 213 alum Warren has been possitive about it coming out this coming year i don't know where you're pulling this shit out of your ass about how he doesn't even know  ::)
5. Actually Daz is DESPERATE to work with them.....it was even on a Julio  G interview......"i'm hollerin at them but they ain't hollerin' at me"


like i said before quit being ignorant
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Re: WEST IS DEAD? SOLUCTIONS!!
« Reply #27 on: December 19, 2001, 08:14:04 PM »
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Unfortunately, all the Snoop dickriders are going to jump on you for merely telling the truth.

hey JABRONI or some , i was talkin about that so would u pleez mind your business pleez  ::)
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Re: WEST IS DEAD? SOLUCTIONS!!
« Reply #28 on: December 19, 2001, 08:18:08 PM »
I'll admit Snoop has changed, but to me its for the better... I like his music a lot better than back in his Deathrow days... so label me if you want... my ass is wide open... i mean my mind

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Re: WEST IS DEAD? SOLUCTIONS!!
« Reply #29 on: December 20, 2001, 12:02:37 AM »
the only thing that could save the west now is quite simply 2Pac, if the alive theories are true
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