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The South Is Mad At Nas
da flayboyant 2:
southern rap is not crunk, crunk is not southern rap. they are different. a lot of crunk comes from the south, but not all of it. that hyphy shit is crunk. chamillionarie isnt crunk, lil wayne isnt either. hey are both from the osuth.
SGV:
Buddenz.. You're such an idiot! This is the last time I'll explain this to you:
You, nor Efrain apparently, have the knowledge of Crunk Music, or even the bigger picture, Southern Hip Hop, to know what's really going on. You guys don't know the history. But, you guys are trying to converse about it. That makes YOU (meaning, anyone who does this action) uneducated.
Noname:
I would like to know SGV, whats real rap/hiphop according to you?
Efrain:
--- Quote from: SGV on November 05, 2006, 08:21:39 PM ---What does Lil Jon being the King of Crunk have to do with anything?
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Lil Jon being the king of Crunk has everything to do with everything.
If Lil Jon is the undisputed "King of Crunk" by his peers in Southern rap and by the fans that support the music then he; at the very least, represents the majority of the Crunk music hip-hop sub-genre. And if Lil Jon (being the representative of the majority of Crunk) says the music is for the clubs, only for the clubs and that he could really care less about lyrics, complexity or anything else that doesn't get the club excited then it is a fair statement that the majority of Crunk music is devoid of those musical and artistic elements the artists themselves admit aren't there.
You have argued with me tooth and nail about that. For what?, it is a true statement. Now is ALL of "Crunk" music like that? Maybe not (I've never heard otherwise but I'll take your word for it) and is all of southern rap lacking the musical elements that Crunk admits to lacking? Abso-fucking-lutely not. That's my entire point.
Now when we talk about g-funk being (or not being) comparable to Crunk all I'm saying is g-funk contained more musical elements and is more dynamic in versatility than Crunk. That's it. Is g-funk better? No! No one can answer that it's a musical preference. Could g-funk be played in a wider variety of listening venues? Well, I would argue that point is debatable. That's all.
It would seem to me that you are reasonably bright and have a fair working knowledge of hip-hop and rap. So why reduce yourself to arguing for the artistic merits of a musical sub-genre its own artists admit it lacks?
I'll concede your point that more than likely not every single artist making "Crunk" records is as homogenized as the majority, that's fine I can see that. But the reality is that the majority of Crunk as a whole is in fact designed for the clubs and limited in that regard. Lil Jon said it, he is the undeniable "King of Crunk" and the representative for the majority and that's just how it is.
BuddenzNasir:
--- Quote from: SGV on November 06, 2006, 01:00:57 PM ---Buddenz.. You're such an idiot! This is the last time I'll explain this to you:
You, nor Efrain apparently, have the knowledge of Crunk Music, or even the bigger picture, Southern Hip Hop, to know what's really going on. You guys don't know the history. But, you guys are trying to converse about it. That makes YOU (meaning, anyone who does this action) uneducated.
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ROFL? i did not even debate you, nor do i need to. So sad how your now attacking me after i question you. Someone is a little sensitive. Mr smart guy just cant take a simple comment here n there? How was i trying to converse anything? you wanna defend a topic beyond anything i mentioned. Eh, but sure you are right, im a huge idiot. lmao
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