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Quote from: A Tribe Called DubCC on October 21, 2006, 06:23:19 AMAtleast the West was putting out decent music, D4L and that will not be looked back on in 10 years and be enjoyed or called innovative and this is coming from someone who ha basically stopped listening to most west coast hip-hop.According to you though. Sure you would say the West was putting out good music, you were a fan then. But for everyone person who thinks that the West was putting out hot shit, there's about 10 East Coast dudes that thought it was garbage. I'm sure most of us thought MC Eiht was dope. I'm sure almost all East Coast cats laughed at this dude. They probably all said the same exact thing you just said "10 years from now, he won't be enjoyed or called innovative."See, you dudes keep naming the same people: D4L and Mike Jones. That's not the South. That's 2 artists out of 1,000's.
Atleast the West was putting out decent music, D4L and that will not be looked back on in 10 years and be enjoyed or called innovative and this is coming from someone who ha basically stopped listening to most west coast hip-hop.
what is wack to me - when peeps from their own respective areas dump their own livestyle and try to jump on what they think is a southern style acceptable music and try to pimp that cuz thats whats hot at the moment.
I'm not calling MC Eiht innovative either, there was atleast some dope stuff from the west coast just like there is some dope stuff from the south so it's not like I'm hating on all of the region like the people you're reffering too. This thread was about shitty groups like D4L and the Dutty Boys that's why they're mentioned. I love Hip-Hop from the South and I bet Nas does too.
Quote from: Jrome Tha Visualiza on October 21, 2006, 07:43:02 PMwhat is wack to me - when peeps from their own respective areas dump their own livestyle and try to jump on what they think is a southern style acceptable music and try to pimp that cuz thats whats hot at the moment.*cough* Too Short and E-40 *cough*
This thread isn't about D4L or any of these groups. It's about "the South being mad at Nas." But, it swayed to a topic that found people using the stereotypical defenses to oppose the South: "So and so isn't Hip Hop." As if they're authorities and what is an isn't Hip Hop. Like dude said earlier, all you dudes is doing is exactly what you WHINED ABOUT (and sometimes still do) when the East did it to the West Coast. Instead of looking at a region as a whole, you single out only the "popular" artists. Why not single out Chamillionaire? Why not single out T.I.?
south cant match the east or west when it comes to quality artists.
all i know isin 10 years people will still be talking about Illmatic, It was Written, and Stillmatic in higher regards than the music of todayand in 10 years most people won't even remember 95% of the artist's names from all the club-hit-de-joirs out there todayso again, nas has more of a right to speak on the current state of hip hop then some black forrest gumps,loli don't care how hot your music is NOW , imo it's how how hot your music remains can someone name some songs average songs that were hot 10 years ago? and if they can , how well they stand up today?ex: "i wish" skee lo...........tight song back in the day right? put it on now what would happenimagine having this argument 10 years ago with west coast fans and Rakim heads'oh rakim ain't put out nothin importnat in years , everyone points to paid in full, but that stuffs OLD, what is he doing now?" ^ LOL whatever....all i know is the numbers speak for themselves % wise, hip hop's numbers are down in sales figures, and it's falling harder then ever. hip hop 2006 , the heir to 80's hair metal
Quote from: Don Jacob on October 22, 2006, 04:02:38 AMall i know isin 10 years people will still be talking about Illmatic, It was Written, and Stillmatic in higher regards than the music of todayand in 10 years most people won't even remember 95% of the artist's names from all the club-hit-de-joirs out there todayso again, nas has more of a right to speak on the current state of hip hop then some black forrest gumps,loli don't care how hot your music is NOW , imo it's how how hot your music remains can someone name some songs average songs that were hot 10 years ago? and if they can , how well they stand up today?ex: "i wish" skee lo...........tight song back in the day right? put it on now what would happenimagine having this argument 10 years ago with west coast fans and Rakim heads'oh rakim ain't put out nothin importnat in years , everyone points to paid in full, but that stuffs OLD, what is he doing now?" ^ LOL whatever....all i know is the numbers speak for themselves % wise, hip hop's numbers are down in sales figures, and it's falling harder then ever. hip hop 2006 , the heir to 80's hair metalAll valid points. I was watching that VH1 Hip Hop Honors the other night. They're celebrating artists that made numerous memorable contributions to hip hop, and I'm sitting there thinking "From artists that have broke in say the last 5 years, who could I see being honored in this fashion?" Honestly, very few have much if any chance in my opinion. Most mainstream artists don't have a whole lot of potential to grow - their ceiling isn't very high, they're pretty disposable. They might make a couple of hot songs, but they're not really bringing anything new to the table. And they can dis Nas all they want, but his music will still be bumped and regarded as some of the best hip hop ever - long after their fad club shit is played the fuck out.
It is about these groups because maybe if you actually read the thread and watched the video you'd know that it's about the Dutty Boys because they're in the god damn video.And 4/5 people represent the whole of the south? I'm not even going to comment on anything else after that.
I'm pretty sure we had all agreed that the meaning of Nas' album title wasn't that Hip-Hop music was dead.