The Best there ever was and ever will be

[TheShiznit227]

Peace dogg, its a shame u gotta go, thanx for all the Ill posts and shit...Good luck wit' yo' future 'n all...Im out...

[Don Jacob]

Suge Knight has charisma with the media, which is one of the reasons that he has been around, and will be around the music industry for a very long time.  It was a great post by mellowman, but I have a couple question/comments about what was written.  First, about Daz, Daz still talked about Dre taking credit, even after he left Death Row last year, check out the Source where he and Kurupt analyze Dillinger/Young Gotti.  Also, what do u think about Daz's claims that he, along with Warren G were robbed credit for what they did on The Chronic and Doggystyle?

Another thing, about the Chronic, how do u factor in Above The Law's claim that Dre stole the blueprint for The Chronic from Black Mafia Life?  ATL used the same samples that Dre used for The Chronic.  They, along with Kokane, dissed Dre on "Don't bite the Phunk" acucsing him of taking their style of music.

Not a diss to you, just a couple of things that came up when reading that post.

easy , warren g. said that him and daz were taugh by dre to work a beat and weren't robbed


black mafia life came out AFTER the chronic, dre didn't steal shit because dre was the one who helped out hutch and taught him alot of shit on the production of "livin' like hustlaz"

so theres your answer Dre was formulating g-funk waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay before hutch was even on ruthless records.

[Mr_Loc]

sorry, thats not true Jake. BML came out a few months before the chronic, and ATL had already been fuckin with the more advanced g-funk formula on the Vocally Pimpin EP in 1991.

and Dre never did anything in the way of G-Funk until at least 1990, 2 years after Hutch and ATL signed to Ruthless.

This is a never-ending argument so im not taking sides, but those are all facts and you can flip em both ways.

the last word is Dre is the greatest, and ATL never get the credit they deserved.

[Don Jacob]

im sory loc  but  


black mafia  life  came  out in 1993 and   the   chronic  came  out  dec. 15,   1992



and theres an  NWA mtv interview  from  89' (i beleive) where they  ask  eazy "straight outta compton  is flying off the shelves along with your solo   album,   what's  up   with  the next  NWA album?" and  eazy says it's  going to  be huge and  dre's all   it's going to be funky  but  gangsta (funky  gangster  muic ...g-funk?)


1990 came along  and wow doc's album   and  tidbits  of g-funk and hutch  had nothing to do  with it,  100 miles  and runnin was a  touch of  g-funk and  yella and dre produced tha one, than  livin  like hustlers came out with both dre and hutch productions on it ,   and that's when  hutch started getting production tips from dre with this whole g-funk shit,  then dre produces efil4zaggin   which  is basically the same ass 100 miles and  runnin style,   then dre gets off ruthless  and starts deathrow with suge  and starts on  the chronic....hutch started on BML after  dre started on the  chronic....hutch in   no way started  g-funk   when dre was already  starting  it basically  on   SOC  and TOTL for christ's sakes

[Mr_Loc]

whatever dog, i cant be bothered to argue this topic again,  but check the back of Black Mafia Life - it's copyrighted 1992.

[Don Jacob]

check tlc's copyrights for Crazy Sexy cool....that album came out in 94'/95' and had 92' copy rights

[Murrow]

Dre had his G-Funk sound sproutin up in "Straight Outta Compon" for Christ's sake.  Well, actually it began with "Efil4zaggin" but D-R-E made the sound.

[Mr_Loc]

If anyone owns the Vocally Pimpin EP youll see a track called BML Commercial, an intro to the upcoming black mafia life album that ATL had already started work on in 1991, when Dre was still in his last days at Ruthless (ie befoe the chronic sessions began).

oh yea, for some more extremely early G-Funk check out Kokanes first album Addictive Hip Hop Muzick produced by Hutch.


by the way, im not saying Dre didnt invent g-funk, or that Hutch did, but my point is it was not down to one person. it was a collective of producers and musicians who came up with it. Dre obviously did it the best and would have the most success from it, but he didnt just invent a whole sound on his own. im sure none of you will bother considering this notion.

[Don Jacob]

pleeeeease i have those albums, they contain funk melodies like EPMD had done....dre's not the first to incorperate funk into hip hop...but the g-funk soundscape YES they were coined by dre...god even dre's closest assosiates and other musicians have said this

theres a difference between g-funk and incorperating funk


2 exaples: listen to a certain song on doggystyle then listen to another song on death certificate......they both sampe Atomic dog but only one is g-funk....kokane's album was just an old fashioned funk styled album NOT a g-funk album and like i said dre's been fucking around with g-funk before hutch was even on Ruthless

[Mr_Loc]

i think we'll have to agree to disagree on this one player, this is going nowhere.