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The turning point of pro wrestling
« on: December 17, 2006, 08:08:26 PM »
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Re: The turning point of pro wrestling
« Reply #1 on: December 17, 2006, 09:15:14 PM »
imo, the turning point was when Sable made her way through. 


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Re: The turning point of pro wrestling
« Reply #2 on: December 17, 2006, 09:40:09 PM »
Its just weird hearing him come out to that music


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Re: The turning point of pro wrestling
« Reply #3 on: December 17, 2006, 10:35:07 PM »
Its just weird hearing him come out to that music
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Re: The turning point of pro wrestling
« Reply #4 on: December 19, 2006, 09:48:29 PM »
It certainly helped turn the WWE around. Bret Hart played a big role in all this though. He first made Austin a main event star with his pair of matches with him and his heel Canadian gimmick helped make Austin the number #1 baby face in the company. I think we could have seen a Bret Hart/Steve Austin Wrestlemania 14 if Steve never got injured in the Owen match. But who knows. Regardless Austin was the reason WWF turned around and this was his coming out moment.

What I have to mention is that one month before this on May 27, 1996 Scott Hall walked out on Nitro and teased a WWF Invasion of WCW. The following 5 Nitros were filled with great Hall and Nash moments that really made the new era of the cool heel, which was topped off with the huge turn of Hogan at Bash at the Beach two Sundays after Austin made that great speech, but after the Hogan moment Nitro beat Raw by a full rating (3.5 to 2.5) and Nitro had already taken the lead during the Hall/Nash invasion.
 

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Re: The turning point of pro wrestling
« Reply #5 on: December 20, 2006, 09:09:21 AM »
It certainly helped turn the WWE around. Bret Hart played a big role in all this though. He first made Austin a main event star with his pair of matches with him and his heel Canadian gimmick helped make Austin the number #1 baby face in the company. I think we could have seen a Bret Hart/Steve Austin Wrestlemania 14 if Steve never got injured in the Owen match. But who knows. Regardless Austin was the reason WWF turned around and this was his coming out moment.

What I have to mention is that one month before this on May 27, 1996 Scott Hall walked out on Nitro and teased a WWF Invasion of WCW. The following 5 Nitros were filled with great Hall and Nash moments that really made the new era of the cool heel, which was topped off with the huge turn of Hogan at Bash at the Beach two Sundays after Austin made that great speech, but after the Hogan moment Nitro beat Raw by a full rating (3.5 to 2.5) and Nitro had already taken the lead during the Hall/Nash invasion.

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Re: The turning point of pro wrestling
« Reply #6 on: December 20, 2006, 09:12:21 AM »
I would say that this was. But what cemented it was the Bret Hart match at WM 13. CLASSIC. the fact that the guy NEVER tapped out, bloodied and shit and flipped off Shamrock when asked if he quit.....PRICELESS.

no one had ever done no shit like that.

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Re: The turning point of pro wrestling
« Reply #7 on: December 20, 2006, 10:20:18 AM »
I would say that this was. But what cemented it was the Bret Hart match at WM 13. CLASSIC. the fact that the guy NEVER tapped out, bloodied and shit and flipped off Shamrock when asked if he quit.....PRICELESS.

no one had ever done no shit like that.

Steve Austin became Stone Cold to me at WM13. IMO

I agree, but    Bret Hart > Stone Cold
 

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Re: The turning point of pro wrestling
« Reply #8 on: December 20, 2006, 11:11:52 AM »
I would say that this was. But what cemented it was the Bret Hart match at WM 13. CLASSIC. the fact that the guy NEVER tapped out, bloodied and shit and flipped off Shamrock when asked if he quit.....PRICELESS.

no one had ever done no shit like that.

Steve Austin became Stone Cold to me at WM13. IMO

I agree, but    Bret Hart > Stone Cold

debatable, if there was no Stone Cold the WWE would be way diff, Stone Cold had a much greater affect on the world of wrestling

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Re: The turning point of pro wrestling
« Reply #9 on: December 20, 2006, 09:00:21 PM »
as an entertainer stone cold > bret hart
as a wrestler bret hart > stone cold
 

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Re: The turning point of pro wrestling
« Reply #10 on: December 20, 2006, 11:19:22 PM »
Shallow is right. Without Bret Hart, there would be no Stone Cold. Before he left the WWF, he put Austin over big time. That WM 13 match will always be in my top 5. Just an amazing match.

That whole era was incredible. WWF began to put out a great product. WCW making history with the nWo. ECW was a great alternative.
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Re: The turning point of pro wrestling
« Reply #11 on: December 21, 2006, 06:15:49 AM »
It certainly helped turn the WWE around. Bret Hart played a big role in all this though. He first made Austin a main event star with his pair of matches with him and his heel Canadian gimmick helped make Austin the number #1 baby face in the company. I think we could have seen a Bret Hart/Steve Austin Wrestlemania 14 if Steve never got injured in the Owen match. But who knows. Regardless Austin was the reason WWF turned around and this was his coming out moment.

What I have to mention is that one month before this on May 27, 1996 Scott Hall walked out on Nitro and teased a WWF Invasion of WCW. The following 5 Nitros were filled with great Hall and Nash moments that really made the new era of the cool heel, which was topped off with the huge turn of Hogan at Bash at the Beach two Sundays after Austin made that great speech, but after the Hogan moment Nitro beat Raw by a full rating (3.5 to 2.5) and Nitro had already taken the lead during the Hall/Nash invasion.

did you know that Orignally it was Supposed to be Sting that was the third guy at Bash at the Beach 96?


Yeah I know. It was going to be any number of people. No one realy knew who the mystery guy was going to be during the Hall/Nash angle. I even heard they were trying to see if Bret would leave the WWF and come over. Either way, the best possible situation happened with Hogan. The problem was they didn't end the feud or angle. They just kept it running until people got sick of it, and then they let it run one more year. Hogan and Nah are more responsible for the downfall of WCW than anything McMahon could could take credit for. Near the end the writers made it suck but they were playing from behind and getting desperate trying to catch up to WWF.
 

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Re: The turning point of pro wrestling
« Reply #12 on: December 21, 2006, 04:03:46 PM »
It certainly helped turn the WWE around. Bret Hart played a big role in all this though. He first made Austin a main event star with his pair of matches with him and his heel Canadian gimmick helped make Austin the number #1 baby face in the company. I think we could have seen a Bret Hart/Steve Austin Wrestlemania 14 if Steve never got injured in the Owen match. But who knows. Regardless Austin was the reason WWF turned around and this was his coming out moment.

What I have to mention is that one month before this on May 27, 1996 Scott Hall walked out on Nitro and teased a WWF Invasion of WCW. The following 5 Nitros were filled with great Hall and Nash moments that really made the new era of the cool heel, which was topped off with the huge turn of Hogan at Bash at the Beach two Sundays after Austin made that great speech, but after the Hogan moment Nitro beat Raw by a full rating (3.5 to 2.5) and Nitro had already taken the lead during the Hall/Nash invasion.

did you know that Orignally it was Supposed to be Sting that was the third guy at Bash at the Beach 96?


Yeah I know. It was going to be any number of people. No one realy knew who the mystery guy was going to be during the Hall/Nash angle. I even heard they were trying to see if Bret would leave the WWF and come over. Either way, the best possible situation happened with Hogan. The problem was they didn't end the feud or angle. They just kept it running until people got sick of it, and then they let it run one more year. Hogan and Nah are more responsible for the downfall of WCW than anything McMahon could could take credit for. Near the end the writers made it suck but they were playing from behind and getting desperate trying to catch up to WWF.
i watched that Monday Night Wars DVD and Bischoff said Sting. I was like Damn, that would have been interesting.

but you're right Hogan had the Biggest turn ever. By far.
 

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Re: The turning point of pro wrestling
« Reply #13 on: December 21, 2006, 05:23:14 PM »
It certainly helped turn the WWE around. Bret Hart played a big role in all this though. He first made Austin a main event star with his pair of matches with him and his heel Canadian gimmick helped make Austin the number #1 baby face in the company. I think we could have seen a Bret Hart/Steve Austin Wrestlemania 14 if Steve never got injured in the Owen match. But who knows. Regardless Austin was the reason WWF turned around and this was his coming out moment.

What I have to mention is that one month before this on May 27, 1996 Scott Hall walked out on Nitro and teased a WWF Invasion of WCW. The following 5 Nitros were filled with great Hall and Nash moments that really made the new era of the cool heel, which was topped off with the huge turn of Hogan at Bash at the Beach two Sundays after Austin made that great speech, but after the Hogan moment Nitro beat Raw by a full rating (3.5 to 2.5) and Nitro had already taken the lead during the Hall/Nash invasion.

did you know that Orignally it was Supposed to be Sting that was the third guy at Bash at the Beach 96?


Yeah I know. It was going to be any number of people. No one realy knew who the mystery guy was going to be during the Hall/Nash angle. I even heard they were trying to see if Bret would leave the WWF and come over. Either way, the best possible situation happened with Hogan. The problem was they didn't end the feud or angle. They just kept it running until people got sick of it, and then they let it run one more year. Hogan and Nah are more responsible for the downfall of WCW than anything McMahon could could take credit for. Near the end the writers made it suck but they were playing from behind and getting desperate trying to catch up to WWF.

true, he was gonna sign with WCW in mid 96 for a FAT SUM, but McMahon made a nice offer for 20 years, not as much money, but longevity and it wasnt about Money To Bret he just wanted to stay with WWF and he was still a top draw so McMahon had to do what he could to keep him. Then Late 97 he left, once McMahon let him out of his contract

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Re: The turning point of pro wrestling
« Reply #14 on: December 21, 2006, 05:30:59 PM »
i read Vince had to let Bret out of the contract because he couldn't afford to keep him
      
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