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sonofisis:
I asked this question on another site but I'm trying to get a bigger perspective.


Ok, been wondering about this for a minute now. Adam and Eve eating the apple from the forbidden tree is what brought sin into this world correct? The penalty for Sin was death.. So this is why it was necessary for The Chris to come and die for sin, so that we all may be able to live forever(after death of course).. Well, according to the bible and Christian belief, the only way to receive this gift Jesus has given the world, is to simply accept that he is our personal lord and savior, and that he died for our sins. Well, this is where the confusing part comes in..


What happens to all of those billions of people that were here before Christ? What is their salvation? What special things did they have to do in order to achieve ever lasting life, since there was no Savior for them to accept and believe in, only Elohim. Doesn't make sense to say Jesus died for them also since they had no idea about it, and there was nothing for them to accept and believe in besides Elohim. And if they were able to gain entry into heaven through worship, following God's law, and believing in God, then what use did Jesus have? Why flip the script and give us different guidelines than the ones before Christ? Did Moses accept Jesus Christ as his personal Lord and Savior? What about Adam? I'm trying to learn and this is an honest question. Can some one please enlighten me?

Don Jacob:
they had to sacrifice something like their best sheep or something like that

Don Jacob:
^ just thought of something right now, perhaps that's why jesus is called the lamb of god

Chief:
what makes you think there were billions of people before christ?

Trauma-san:
Mormons have really interesting beliefs on this, you should ask one sometime about it.  Makes a lot of sense to me.  Basically, in a nutshell, Mormons believe the only people that go to hell are those who actively choose evil, knowing the difference between good and evil and choosing evil anyways.  They believe that the plan of Christ's salvation is eternal and basically is known througout the universe, throughout time... and before we ever lived on this earth we accepted the plan and are all already believers, and in fact came to earth as spirits born into bodies to learn of a physical existance, and to have the opportunity to blindly wonder and let our hearts and conscience guide us to right ways.  In heaven under god we were never free since we had no choice but to follow the light since it was so blindingly clear.  On earth we're ignorant of the bigger scheme of things so we have to make the best of it with only our hearts to guide us.  Those who choose to follow their hearts will return to heaven with a body in tow, those who know in their heart of evil and do it anyways will necessarily be punished.  Christ's salvation was more of a gift to us than something that must be accepted, since by definition the only souls who made the trip to earth were those who already knew of the plan and agreed to play along with it. 

As for those who died before Christ was born, after their death their spirits were free of the monotony of human existance, i.e. breathing eating worrying about death fighting to survive, and with a less cluttered mind you can easily see the truths and the laws of the universe, the creator and his son, our brother Jesus is of course one of those laws, anybody who has died likely knows immediately of their role in the scheme of things and also the role that Christ plays. 

Personally I have very little figured out but I know for a fact that I do, at all times, what I feel in my heart is the correct and fair, honest thing to do.  When I make mistakes I try not to make them again.  I'm confident that I'm living my life to the best of my abilities, and any fair god would not punish me for my ignorance and my short comings. 

Mormons believe that men like Ghandi and Budda likely receive a much greater reward in heaven than men like you or I, even if we're christians and they're not, because they did much more with their lives and had a stronger impact on the world.  Remember in the bible, Moses was judged more harshly by God because Moses was more knowledgeable.  The bible has him being punished with never seeing the promised land, after 40 years of wondering, because he struck a rock instead of talking to it like God told him to do.  Something as simple as that little act of obedience he was severely punished for because he was so nearly perfect.  Someone who knows nothing of God likely is treated very kindly and given a lot of room for error by a fair god. 

Just my ramblings. 

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