Bad business (Kokane for example)

[Tanjential]

Just read a January '05 interview with Kokane and man...it's like cats like him do a million songs with a million cats, all kinds of choruses and verses and bridges and hooks for alot of famous up there ass cats and then when dude wants to drop a solo, he gets like no support from all the big cheeses like dre and snoop that he worked so hard for so his shit look like it's coming out of the swap meet and shit. what the fuck is that? Nate dogg's lucky he's built what he has because a brotha like Koka or butch gets kicked to the curb by the people they slaved for like snoop and dre when it comes to droppin' a solo album... who stuck with kokane? Kurupt....kurupt probably has enough money for himself and his family but a rich motherfucker like snoop dogg should have done koka better in my opinion from what i've gathered. shit is whack.

-T

[BIGG-A]

agree wit what ya sayin. would love to hear a solo from them guys.

[Lunatic]

yea. sometimes the right hook can make an alright track, really decent. and very few have the talent to do that, and kokane, nate dogg, butch cassidy really do. They should get more credit, and more help from people they've "laboured" for like dre & snoop etc.

[The King]

Kokane is one of the most talented artists, a true artist. I'm glad hes working with Suga Free on their next project. But really, I wouldn't care for a mainstream kokane album, it wouldn't make sense. People are missing out, and he shouldn't have to change his style to meet the demands of the ppl.

[Realbiggsteele]

Yeah, Kokane is a talented dude, but some people need to get they business in order and do right by people insteada getting paid for hooks, then putting cease and decist on the tracks. its a reason why people dont fuck with certain people

[~Lucien~]

there's no market for kokane or butch...
I like them both, they're both tight as fuck but be real!
making an albums cost a lot of money. how many will they sell?
only the real fans... and that won't be gold or platinum album
peace

[Tanjential]

I'm not saying they have to put a huge push on the album or whatever, but Snoop could have arranged so that a Kokane album that didn't look like it was made for the swap meet got released, you know?

-T

[XaNdEr]

like said b4 me, theres no market, and the industry nowadays only sees dolla bills in their eyes, they dont gave a fuck bout artists or music, just money, seriously, a lotta ppl fuckin up rap, it has been fucked up already for some years now...too bad...

[R-Tistic]

there's no market for kokane or butch...
I like them both, they're both tight as fuck but be real!
making an albums cost a lot of money. how many will they sell?
only the real fans... and that won't be gold or platinum album
peace

That is definitely true though. It's hard to make an album for them to sell. I mean, Nate has proven to be the dopest rap hook singer in history, and people don't even buy his albums that much.

Some artists just have to realize that they can't do it all. Butter tastes good on a roll, but is nasty as fuck by itself...and that's how it is with some of these artists. Not at all saying Kokane, Buth, or Nate are anywhere near wack solo...but they shine brightest on hooks and verses.

[Tanjential]

damn, you have a real good point, but it's so sad. how would you feel someone telling you:" you're butter on the roll homey."

-T

[Slikk_J]

I have to disagree with the comments made...

Koakne brought the tension between Snoop and himself.....Hes the one that got all upset and left Dggystle records bitterly...

Soopafly even said that they turned in his album to MCA (or whichever company DS records go through) and it got rejected, so they said ok, lets improve on it, but Kokane had a sook and didn't do this.

Since then Snoop said in his interview not too long ago, that he recnetly patched the relationship between himself and Kokane, and that Kokane releasied how he messed up.

So for Big names not to be on Kokane album...well that was on him...

As far as Kurupt being there for him, at that time, whoever was beefing with Snoop, automatically became Kurupts frind....Like Jayo Felony (who was had small beef with Daz & Kurupt for being on change the game remix when he was beefing with Jay-Z) then once Kurupt went to death row Jay was his cool with him...Same with Kokane...once he left, all of a sudden Kokane and Kurupt were doing an album together that never came through....

But I do agree that Kokane is a talented artist....But at the time you gotta remeber he was all drug fuckked and what not then...

Still Back 2 tha clap was one a my fav albums of the year.....Fingazz did a great job.

[Tanjential]

is fingazz white dr.dre like koka said or what? Shit is funny man, people are always trying to talk about a new dr.dre....game talking about j.r. rotem the white dr.dre...someone else the other day in an interview that jelly roll is a new dre and shit...just mad funny, i would compare storch and battlecat to dre but only withint their styles, dre's scope is just so much bigger.

-T

[GangstaBoogy]

There's too many things stopping Kokane from selling. First of all no one outside of this forum is checking for him. His rapping style is dusgusting. His singing is only liked by fans in Southern California. His name is gonna cause a lot of problems for him. And the songs he makes are just not good. He's best if used for hooks on old school sounding songs.

[Tanjential]

i agree with everything you said except the southern california thing, that's awful specific, you really think only so cal?

damn, that's brutal.

-T

[XaNdEr]

There's too many things stopping Kokane from selling. First of all no one outside of this forum is checking for him. His rapping style is dusgusting. His singing is only liked by fans in Southern California. His name is gonna cause a lot of problems for him. And the songs he makes are just not good. He's best if used for hooks on old school sounding songs.

yeah, that is sadly but true, he is disgusting as a rapper idd, personally i dont like his singin much either, but on snoop albums he was on it wasnt that bad, but i bought a solo album and greatest hits compilation or somthin and well the guest spots make the songs, not kokane himself...and yeah he dont have a big fanbase, i can understand that too, and last of all whenever some friends see me listenin to "kokane" on msn they say somethin bout that name so yeah, that name dont fall well with the mainstream....i dont think he should try to make any more solo albums but instead increase his connections and get on mainstream records and make some money....he deserves that shine

like for example on yayo's album, now he is on buck's song that leaked, hard liquor with game and all that stuff, he shud work with the top rappers