Concession 1B

[Tanjential]

Dr.Dre is just an idea.

I just picked up DA last night and I realize, there is nothing that we want Dre to do that Game and Snoop can't pay Rotem and Storch to do.

I'm pretty die-hard Dre fan but say i DLed DA and didn't know who produced it, i would have guessed that every of the first 7 tracks with the exception of one blood is dre produced.

I've been upset about dre's lack of heavy west coast involvement since game's first disc but I realize, it doesn't matter. Dre is so dope now that he doesn't produce dope beats, he produces dope producers. focus, hi-tek, battlecat, jelly roll, rotem, storch, mahogany, mel-man, elizondo, batson and whoever else dre co-produces with before he's done will go on to continue making dre style beats for west coast artists with the sound that we all crave.

I mentioned awhile back that i thought 'bang' was ghost produced by dre because daz shouts out dre for the first time in years out of nowhere on the track and the sound. but upon a closer listen, i hear what daz is saying in context and that little break the beat does where the piano descends and the drums sound all choppy and gun like....is too whack to be dre. That shit ain't dre, so I take that back.....buuuuuuuut-is it just me or is the beat to 'remedy' the EXACT same shit as dre and B-real's "puppet master" from the pretox mixtape?

anyway, DA is what DA is not because of dre involvement but because the album's west coast contributors all are part of the 'g tree' that dre is the root of. the sound that pervades the album would not exist without dre and the album is conscious of it, down to mac minister, paying respect. The whole album really is a tribute to dr.dre and what he's done for the west and rap and music in general and I commend Game for doing it because DAMN, he has improved from documentary by alot. his shit is twice as clever easily. and his voice is an intentional version of dre's rapping throughout the album in a way that it definitely was not on documentary.

also, I'm REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEALLY tired of people saying Game is a dre dickrider because he mentions his name so much. I'd rather hear someone shout out a living legend that deserves being known for what they are then hear yet another thug ass dude talk about TUPAC...it's the same shit as every other rapper talking about pac and biggie all the time. it seems like you cats are just disturbed that it's someone besides pac being talked about like that, like it hurts your ears cause it's a name you ain't used to hearing like that. like it's annoying that someone who is an artist rather than a gangsta gets due tribute.

anyway, this album IS banging even without Dre and when I heard others say that I thought I would disagree but upon purchase of the album i can't deny it.

also, while the dre sound can be imitated effectively, dre's production in the sense of coordinating all of the elements of the music (coaxing the best performance out of the rapper, management of all musicians and machines etc.) is still a golden asset that dre has but based on the pristine sound of tracks like the first 7 on DA, i'm starting to believe dre trains his producers in such things as well.

-T

[Detox Is A Myth!!!]

Dr.Dre is just an idea.

I just picked up DA last night and I realize, there is nothing that we want Dre to do that Game and Snoop can't pay Rotem and Storch to do.

I'm pretty die-hard Dre fan but say i DLed DA and didn't know who produced it, i would have guessed that every of the first 7 tracks with the exception of one blood is dre produced.

I've been upset about dre's lack of heavy west coast involvement since game's first disc but I realize, it doesn't matter. Dre is so dope now that he doesn't produce dope beats, he produces dope producers. focus, hi-tek, battlecat, jelly roll, rotem, storch, mahogany, mel-man, elizondo, batson and whoever else dre co-produces with before he's done will go on to continue making dre style beats for west coast artists with the sound that we all crave.

I mentioned awhile back that i thought 'bang' was ghost produced by dre because daz shouts out dre for the first time in years out of nowhere on the track and the sound. but upon a closer listen, i hear what daz is saying in context and that little break the beat does where the piano descends and the drums sound all choppy and gun like....is too whack to be dre. That shit ain't dre, so I take that back.....buuuuuuuut-is it just me or is the beat to 'remedy' the EXACT same shit as dre and B-real's "puppet master" from the pretox mixtape?

anyway, DA is what DA is not because of dre involvement but because the album's west coast contributors all are part of the 'g tree' that dre is the root of. the sound that pervades the album would not exist without dre and the album is conscious of it, down to mac minister, paying respect. The whole album really is a tribute to dr.dre and what he's done for the west and rap and music in general and I commend Game for doing it because DAMN, he has improved from documentary by alot. his shit is twice as clever easily. and his voice is an intentional version of dre's rapping throughout the album in a way that it definitely was not on documentary.

also, I'm REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEALLY tired of people saying Game is a dre dickrider because he mentions his name so much. I'd rather hear someone shout out a living legend that deserves being known for what they are then hear yet another thug ass dude talk about TUPAC...it's the same shit as every other rapper talking about pac and biggie all the time. it seems like you cats are just disturbed that it's someone besides pac being talked about like that, like it hurts your ears cause it's a name you ain't used to hearing like that. like it's annoying that someone who is an artist rather than a gangsta gets due tribute.

anyway, this album IS banging even without Dre and when I heard others say that I thought I would disagree but upon purchase of the album i can't deny it.

also, while the dre sound can be imitated effectively, dre's production in the sense of coordinating all of the elements of the music (coaxing the best performance out of the rapper, management of all musicians and machines etc.) is still a golden asset that dre has but based on the pristine sound of tracks like the first 7 on DA, i'm starting to believe dre trains his producers in such things as well.

-T

C'mon man.  Puppet Master is like a decade old.  Remedy and Puppet Master use the same sample.  Nothing Dre about it.  Just Blaze just used the same sample to make a beat as Dre did 10 years ago.

[SoCal Iz Active]

DJ Muggs produced Puppet Master.. I know I thought it was Dre also