Fixing the "Doggfather" Lp

[MIAMI4LIFE]

you also removed "snoop bounce" thats the hardest beat on the album. you fucked up big time

That song fuckin sucks, easily the worst on the album.  You think that's a good beat?  It's just another cheap "More Bounce To The Ounce" rip-off, and that shit had been sampled to death long before "Tha Doggfather" came out.  You fucked up big time for saying that.

 

[Sosna]

I think trax should have much louder vocals, coz' these r so quiet... Rest r O.K. I think...

[way2fonky4]

Ok, this album for right and/or wrong gets discussed heavily. I wanted fellow members to share their ideas on this. If you were in charge, what would you change to  make it better.... Production wise... promotion.etc.  I would have removed all those worthless skits(except for the intro & outro) and add the following tracks Midnight Love, Street Life along with other tracks.  Here's my ideal tracklisting:


1.Intro
2.DoggFather
3.Hit Rocks
4.Groupie
5.You Thought
6.Midnight Love
7.Up Jump Tha Boogie
8.Vapors
9.Change Gone Come
10.Doggyland
11.Upside ya head
12.Me and My Doggs
13.Gold Rush
14.Downtown Assassins
15.Street Life
16.Outro

One thing about it, something needed to be done to fix "Doggfather.," although I must admit time has been a lot kinder too it than I expected.  At first I think I didn't care for it because musically, it's a big departure from "Doggystyle."  There are actually quite a few good songs on it though.  Still, there are places where I would have made changes.  I agree that adding "Street Life" and "Midnight Love" would have gone a long way in improving the cd.  I think I also would have taken Charlie Wilson off some of the songs.  If memory serves me, it seems he overused Charlie Wilson here just like he overused Kokane on "Last Meal" and Dueces and Treys."  I also admit though, I don't have all the answers.  I'd probably have to go back and listen to it yet again to decide what changes I'd want to make and where to make them.  Off the top of my head I think maybe I would have used "May I" and "Head Doctor" somewhere on this album too.  But that's just a thought.

you can never overuse charlie wilson. cmon now...

[Tanjential]

yeah, i like when he fucks with the same two hook cats alot for a record, gives it alot of cohesion and a feeling of homeyness(no homo) in the songs.
-T

[MIAMI4LIFE]

I think trax should have much louder vocals, coz' these r so quiet... Rest r O.K. I think...

nobody mixes a record like Dre so that's where he was missed

[T-Dogg]

Ain't nothing wrong with the album. Just that the mixing could've been done better, but otherwise, it's perfectly fine as it is.

[The "Untouchable" DJR]

I think expectations were raised too high on this one, like someone said before everybody was expecting another Doggystyle which it obviously wasn't. But it's still a dope album recorded during a very turbulent time in hip hop...

[Sosna]

I think trax should have much louder vocals, coz' these r so quiet... Rest r O.K. I think...

nobody mixes a record like Dre so that's where he was missed

Yeah, this is whole problem. No Dre = no perfect production...

[dexter]

All I know is that I put that album on the other day for the first time in ages and was shocked at how tight it is. I guess I didn't appreciate it when it came out because I was expecting another Doggystyle. But looking back that album is dope as hell and I have been banging it the past few days non stop.

True 
webratsmusic.com

Very ture

[Blu Lacez]

Well i''l be damned!!

When this al;bum came out, foks around my area ddin't like it..guess they were expecting anutha Doggstyle..

But i love this album...Sure the beats were different....But it gave Dj Pooh a chance to Shine!!
i like his Beats!!!!..Dude is straig Cool..with All those funky Sub Bass lines and arpeggiators and all!!!
the mixing culda been done properly..

But Snoop has a lot of cool lines on this Album..


The dog run up on me I give him a cold
Like nigga back up off me
He turn around and bite the police

Matter of  fact..i'ma go bomp this album!!

[Tanjential]

Well i''l be damned!!

When this al;bum came out, foks around my area ddin't like it..guess they were expecting anutha Doggstyle..

But i love this album...Sure the beats were different....But it gave Dj Pooh a chance to Shine!!
i like his Beats!!!!..Dude is straig Cool..with All those funky Sub Bass lines and arpeggiators and all!!!
the mixing culda been done properly..

But Snoop has a lot of cool lines on this Album..


The dog run up on me I give him a cold
Like nigga back up off me
He turn around and bite the police

Matter of  fact..i'ma go bomp this album!!

say what you want about my sexuality or whatever the fuck, but that signature is ridiculously cute.

-T

[$Eg2$]

I think trax should have much louder vocals, coz' these r so quiet... Rest r O.K. I think...

nobody mixes a record like Dre so that's where he was missed

Yeah, this is whole problem. No Dre = no perfect production...

I thought the album was good I dont care about Dre not being on there since Dre is God here I can see why every1 is saying this Album is easily one of Snoops best albums.

[Blu Lacez]

Well i''l be damned!!

When this al;bum came out, foks around my area ddin't like it..guess they were expecting anutha Doggstyle..

But i love this album...Sure the beats were different....But it gave Dj Pooh a chance to Shine!!
i like his Beats!!!!..Dude is straig Cool..with All those funky Sub Bass lines and arpeggiators and all!!!
the mixing culda been done properly..

But Snoop has a lot of cool lines on this Album..


The dog run up on me I give him a cold
Like nigga back up off me
He turn around and bite the police

Matter of  fact..i'ma go bomp this album!!

say what you want about my sexuality or whatever the fuck, but that signature is ridiculously cute.

-T

/\
Tanjibility-You a funny Dude, homie!!!...lol

But Ya rite the pic does look Cool!!!

Peace!!

[Tanjential]

yeah that dog is extra coo.

and though dre is by far my favorite hip hop artist period, i think doggfather is dope. The beats are extra smooth and dope, snoop just needs that doggystyle delivery. the lyrics on doggfather at times are alot better than the lyrics on doggystyle, the dre production is needed here not cause of the beats but to coach snoop into delivering the goods!

-T

[dexter]

All I know is that I put that album on the other day for the first time in ages and was shocked at how tight it is. I guess I didn't appreciate it when it came out because I was expecting another Doggystyle. But looking back that album is dope as hell and I have been banging it the past few days non stop.

True 
webratsmusic.com

Very true

Underated