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Re: Rap
« Reply #15 on: February 20, 2007, 01:05:50 PM »
its jus entertainment niggas chill out
Realest shit ever written.

There's so much shit in life you gotta take seriously, so why do that to hip-hop?
that the problem. people arent taking it seriously

Don't worry, partner. We got the revolution on our hands.

All jokes aside though, it's a bit irrealistic to blame The Powers That Be for the difference between utopian "hip hop music" as you describe it, and your dystopian version of "rap music". Don't look so hard for someone to blame; if anyone, it'll be us. We're the people who have been tricked by slick marketeers, to be trapped in their marketing schemes. Controversy sells, and they've been using that. They made us fiend for it, and now we're the reason why hip hop is dead: deception overrules us. And don't dare to act like hiphop is alive, as if there's anything left of the original spirit of the culture in todays' life.

nah as long as there's cats rappin, dancin, djin and graffin it's alive. just cause you can't download it doesn't mean it ain't alive. I see what you're saying but art is art. Just cause a movement isn't in full effect doesn't mean the art isn't what it is.

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Re: Rap
« Reply #16 on: February 20, 2007, 03:34:08 PM »
May I?

Rap is something you do, Hip Hop is what you live.
 

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Re: Rap
« Reply #17 on: February 21, 2007, 12:42:03 AM »
May I?

Rap is something you do, Hip Hop is what you live.

Just for the sake of discussion...wouldn't what you do and what you live be the same thing?

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Re: Rap
« Reply #18 on: February 21, 2007, 01:53:17 AM »
May I?

Rap is something you do, Hip Hop is what you live.

Just for the sake of discussion...wouldn't what you do and what you live be the same thing?

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U do know that Hip Hop has 4 elements?

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Re: Rap
« Reply #19 on: February 21, 2007, 02:31:49 AM »
back in the early 90s when afrocentricity was the big thing ( de la, brand nubian, etc) that was the part of hip hop you saw in magazines and on tv.  i saw the shift from that to gangster rap happen in the media practically overnight. 

maybe i'm being a bit of a conspriacy nut when i say this, but i feel that it was done intentionally.

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Re: Rap
« Reply #20 on: February 21, 2007, 10:13:42 AM »
May I?

Rap is something you do, Hip Hop is what you live.

Just for the sake of discussion...wouldn't what you do and what you live be the same thing?

-T



U do know that Hip Hop has 4 elements?

yeah, that's why 3 posts before this post I said:

nah as long as there's cats rappin, dancin, djin and graffin it's alive. just cause you can't download it doesn't mean it ain't alive. I see what you're saying but art is art. Just cause a movement isn't in full effect doesn't mean the art isn't what it is.

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Re: Rap
« Reply #21 on: February 21, 2007, 10:27:04 AM »
its jus entertainment niggas chill out
Realest shit ever written.

There's so much shit in life you gotta take seriously, so why do that to hip-hop?
that the problem. people arent taking it seriously

Don't worry, partner. We got the revolution on our hands.

All jokes aside though, it's a bit irrealistic to blame The Powers That Be for the difference between utopian "hip hop music" as you describe it, and your dystopian version of "rap music". Don't look so hard for someone to blame; if anyone, it'll be us. We're the people who have been tricked by slick marketeers, to be trapped in their marketing schemes. Controversy sells, and they've been using that. They made us fiend for it, and now we're the reason why hip hop is dead: deception overrules us. And don't dare to act like hiphop is alive, as if there's anything left of the original spirit of the culture in todays' life.

nah as long as there's cats rappin, dancin, djin and graffin it's alive. just cause you can't download it doesn't mean it ain't alive. I see what you're saying but art is art. Just cause a movement isn't in full effect doesn't mean the art isn't what it is.

-T

And that's just what I'm saying. The community is just about dead. People who still claim to be living it, have crossed over to some watered down milk-the-cow style. Graffiti art ain't considered hiphop anymore, and any moron is taking b-boy classes for $3 a lesson now. Is that what hiphop was founded on?

Don't forget... Them four elements you're referring to are the elements that emerged from hiphop. That's not where hiphop started, but it did define the culture at one time. But now, with the elements commercialized and the spirit gone, what's really left? It seems like weed, voilence and sex are the new elements of whatever is replacing hiphop...
 

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Re: Rap
« Reply #22 on: February 21, 2007, 10:44:13 AM »
its jus entertainment niggas chill out
Realest shit ever written.

There's so much shit in life you gotta take seriously, so why do that to hip-hop?
that the problem. people arent taking it seriously

Don't worry, partner. We got the revolution on our hands.

All jokes aside though, it's a bit irrealistic to blame The Powers That Be for the difference between utopian "hip hop music" as you describe it, and your dystopian version of "rap music". Don't look so hard for someone to blame; if anyone, it'll be us. We're the people who have been tricked by slick marketeers, to be trapped in their marketing schemes. Controversy sells, and they've been using that. They made us fiend for it, and now we're the reason why hip hop is dead: deception overrules us. And don't dare to act like hiphop is alive, as if there's anything left of the original spirit of the culture in todays' life.

nah as long as there's cats rappin, dancin, djin and graffin it's alive. just cause you can't download it doesn't mean it ain't alive. I see what you're saying but art is art. Just cause a movement isn't in full effect doesn't mean the art isn't what it is.

-T

And that's just what I'm saying. The community is just about dead. People who still claim to be living it, have crossed over to some watered down milk-the-cow style. Graffiti art ain't considered hiphop anymore, and any moron is taking b-boy classes for $3 a lesson now. Is that what hiphop was founded on?

Don't forget... Them four elements you're referring to are the elements that emerged from hiphop. That's not where hiphop started, but it did define the culture at one time. But now, with the elements commercialized and the spirit gone, what's really left? It seems like weed, voilence and sex are the new elements of whatever is replacing hiphop...

weed's pretty dope lol.

 Check it, I know white kids that live in the suburbs that listen to shit like acid reign and atmosphere that graf all over the whack ass city cause they just get it. They don't care about money, they don't care about what's cool-they just live the art. Who cares if it's a white kid, who cares if they weren't there for the beginning...they just believe in the art and they listen to and do what they feel is dope. My little brother is really into trick-biking, like BMX biking. So his friends and he will take a boombox to a skate park and do all kinds of crazy biking tricks with a boom box blasting as their tricks on the concrete make rhythms like the music does. A cat like me and my hippie poet friends, will freestyle and jam on instruments all the time....this is just in the whack ass IE. there's art and hip hop all over the place, it lives, it's in the people. and until we've all purchased every piece of hip hop art we've ever wanted to support what right do we really have to complain about the lack of output? I'm just saying it's all good. The "hip hop community"(or tv/internet's representation of it) will only get you down if you accept that as the culture.


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Re: Rap
« Reply #23 on: February 21, 2007, 10:58:36 AM »
its jus entertainment niggas chill out
Realest shit ever written.

There's so much shit in life you gotta take seriously, so why do that to hip-hop?
that the problem. people arent taking it seriously
I agree.

Don't worry, partner. We got the revolution on our hands.

All jokes aside though, it's a bit irrealistic to blame The Powers That Be for the difference between utopian "hip hop music" as you describe it, and your dystopian version of "rap music". Don't look so hard for someone to blame; if anyone, it'll be us. We're the people who have been tricked by slick marketeers, to be trapped in their marketing schemes. Controversy sells, and they've been using that. They made us fiend for it, and now we're the reason why hip hop is dead: deception overrules us. And don't dare to act like hiphop is alive, as if there's anything left of the original spirit of the culture in todays' life.

nah as long as there's cats rappin, dancin, djin and graffin it's alive. just cause you can't download it doesn't mean it ain't alive. I see what you're saying but art is art. Just cause a movement isn't in full effect doesn't mean the art isn't what it is.

-T

And that's just what I'm saying. The community is just about dead. People who still claim to be living it, have crossed over to some watered down milk-the-cow style. Graffiti art ain't considered hiphop anymore, and any moron is taking b-boy classes for $3 a lesson now. Is that what hiphop was founded on?

Don't forget... Them four elements you're referring to are the elements that emerged from hiphop. That's not where hiphop started, but it did define the culture at one time. But now, with the elements commercialized and the spirit gone, what's really left? It seems like weed, voilence and sex are the new elements of whatever is replacing hiphop...
 

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Re: Rap
« Reply #24 on: February 21, 2007, 12:44:21 PM »
May I?

Rap is something you do, Hip Hop is what you live.

Just for the sake of discussion...wouldn't what you do and what you live be the same thing?

-T



U do know that Hip Hop has 4 elements?

yeah, that's why 3 posts before this post I said:

nah as long as there's cats rappin, dancin, djin and graffin it's alive. just cause you can't download it doesn't mean it ain't alive. I see what you're saying but art is art. Just cause a movement isn't in full effect doesn't mean the art isn't what it is.

-T


Hip Hop is a culture. ;D