DeVante and Timbaland: Who stole from who?

[Quadruple OG]

It's been talked about for a while that Timbaland and Missy took DeVante's production style from the mid-90's and ran with it, as well as signing away Ginuwine from him.  However, there's an article from the new GQ with Timbaland, and he says this specifically about 2pac's "No More Pain" record that DeVante produced.

Mosley said he did a lot of uncredited work on tracks Devante was ostensibly "producing," including several cuts on the last two Jodeci albums.  "I didn't need the credit," he says, "I was a pupil.  I was learning."But by the end of his tenure at Swing Mob - this was around January 1995 - Mosley started developing a style.  And one day, Mosley heard "No More Pain," a track Devante had produced for Tupac Shakur.  "It was my sound," Mosley says.  "My style.  That triple-time double beat.  When he did that, I knew it was time for me to go, because I saw what could go on - that he could take my sound and flip it.  I couldn't give that style up."

IMO I think its kinda like a situation where everyone says that Dre takes credit for other people's work, however Timbo and Missy jacked Devante's production style for some of those early Ginuwine and Aaliyah records.

[.:Hercy Buggz:.]

Devante discovered  Timbaland  and Missy...so in my opinion Timbo probably got his style from Him

[R-Tistic]

I mean, it probably went both ways. There were some things Timbo did that Devante probably used, and Timbo prolly took that original sound from Devante and flipped it. If you listen to DJ Quik's older music, a lot of it sounds VERY Dre inspired, from the sample selection, to the drums, to the breakdowns, and especially the scratches and cuts. However, he took that and developed his own style, which is what most producers do. So if he was his pupil, I'm sure that he took some things from him...but 10-12 years later, is Devante the one making #1 hits in Rap AND pop?

[Tanjential]

I mean, it probably went both ways. There were some things Timbo did that Devante probably used, and Timbo prolly took that original sound from Devante and flipped it. If you listen to DJ Quik's older music, a lot of it sounds VERY Dre inspired, from the sample selection, to the drums, to the breakdowns, and especially the scratches and cuts. However, he took that and developed his own style, which is what most producers do. So if he was his pupil, I'm sure that he took some things from him...but 10-12 years later, is Devante the one making #1 hits in Rap AND pop?

truth

-T

[pinkito]

Timbaland beats and futuristic sound is awesome,but DeVante's melody and music...no one can touch him.

Anyway,I can say devante fell off after timbaland and the whole da bassment go,but timbaland who blame devante,all thru the years ha been bittering other people like static major,missy,danja...timbaland go with the beats but need help for the music,and all the credit goes for him,not the other.

Poor devante and his drugs problem,he's been out of the spotlight for years,and saying a new jodeci album would be out every year...

[Digital Pimpin']

DeVante and Timbo were a tight combo; B-Rezell - Blowed Away, what a great track

[R-Tistic]

When you listen to tracks like "Freakin u", then listen to tracks like Ginuwine "Pony", you can hear some of the similarities. I didn't know DeVante was strung out on drugs though.

[Tanjential]

DeVante and Timbo were a tight combo; B-Rezell - Blowed Away, what a great track

hook up someone?

also, it makes sense that timbo kinda started where devante left off. the show the afterparty the hotel is an amazing album.

-T

[Soopafly]

D had a problem with tha coke .. i remember sum1 saying Suge wanted to make him tha head producer at tha row when he first got out ..then he saw how bad he was on that whyte ..

[J$crILLa]

D had a problem with tha coke .. i remember sum1 saying Suge wanted to make him tha head producer at tha row when he first got out ..then he saw how bad he was on that whyte ..

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cocaine ruins everyone

[.:Hercy Buggz:.]

that sucks!!!!

[pinkito]

Well devante was doing so much stuff in tha row from 96 to 2000,but you know all was shelved. devante did production on danny boy unreleased cd (slip&slide and rock&roll),he made production on jewell unreleased album,in crookedI untouchable cd,and kurt kobane said in a interviewso much music was made by devante in the lost death row records years (98-2001).

And there were rumors about a jodeci 4th album on death row called Purple paradise.