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hes a good rapper who doesnt relly on a gimmick?
first off, let me start off by saying that i am NOT a hater (T.I. is actually my fav. rapper). But i find his #s intresting (topped 06' for a rapper, and still has a 300,000 lead on jay-z). Why did he sell? alot of theories can easily be wiped away. Some people think he is cheesy and would compare him 2 D4L, DFB, Yung Joc, Jibbs, Young Dro etc. (personally i wouldn't, he's much better then those mentioned). But if we can't agree on that explain this:alot of that "snap" shit flopped. D4L flopped, Dro flopped, Jibbs flopped. Joc was only 1 who did decent #s (styll around 1 mill behind T.I.) and I *THINK* DFB JUST hit gold. Why did T.I. sell so many records? what you know was big, but so was "shoulder lean", "laffy taffy", "chain hang low"I've actually argued this with friends.what are your thoughts?
Quote from: Lunatic 63 on March 02, 2007, 08:12:58 PMfirst off, let me start off by saying that i am NOT a hater (T.I. is actually my fav. rapper). But i find his #s intresting (topped 06' for a rapper, and still has a 300,000 lead on jay-z). Why did he sell? alot of theories can easily be wiped away. Some people think he is cheesy and would compare him 2 D4L, DFB, Yung Joc, Jibbs, Young Dro etc. (personally i wouldn't, he's much better then those mentioned). But if we can't agree on that explain this:alot of that "snap" shit flopped. D4L flopped, Dro flopped, Jibbs flopped. Joc was only 1 who did decent #s (styll around 1 mill behind T.I.) and I *THINK* DFB JUST hit gold. Why did T.I. sell so many records? what you know was big, but so was "shoulder lean", "laffy taffy", "chain hang low"I've actually argued this with friends.what are your thoughts?Well it's not like T.I. just sold 1.5 mil out of nowhere. Trap Musik I think went gold, Urban Legend went platinum and this last one is this biggest to date. He had a movie out around the time of his album, although this is bad publicity his friend was killed, he had that on going thing with is he beefing with Ludacris or not, and he picked some nice singles to promote the album so I think the work put in to promote paid off. And hip hop fans down south are very loyal customers so he was able to increase and appeal to a bigger audience.
Quote from: d-nice on March 02, 2007, 08:50:28 PMQuote from: Lunatic 63 on March 02, 2007, 08:12:58 PMfirst off, let me start off by saying that i am NOT a hater (T.I. is actually my fav. rapper). But i find his #s intresting (topped 06' for a rapper, and still has a 300,000 lead on jay-z). Why did he sell? alot of theories can easily be wiped away. Some people think he is cheesy and would compare him 2 D4L, DFB, Yung Joc, Jibbs, Young Dro etc. (personally i wouldn't, he's much better then those mentioned). But if we can't agree on that explain this:alot of that "snap" shit flopped. D4L flopped, Dro flopped, Jibbs flopped. Joc was only 1 who did decent #s (styll around 1 mill behind T.I.) and I *THINK* DFB JUST hit gold. Why did T.I. sell so many records? what you know was big, but so was "shoulder lean", "laffy taffy", "chain hang low"I've actually argued this with friends.what are your thoughts?Well it's not like T.I. just sold 1.5 mil out of nowhere. Trap Musik I think went gold, Urban Legend went platinum and this last one is this biggest to date. He had a movie out around the time of his album, although this is bad publicity his friend was killed, he had that on going thing with is he beefing with Ludacris or not, and he picked some nice singles to promote the album so I think the work put in to promote paid off. And hip hop fans down south are very loyal customers so he was able to increase and appeal to a bigger audience.Just for a heads up, Trap Muzik i believe has been certified plat. It was 997,000 last time I heard about it, so i'm assuming it past that 1 mill mark. Even if not, I think it's fair to give him that 3,000 stretch lol. Urban Legend did sell 1.3 mill, that is correct. Imagine if he had an impact of a 3rd single (ASAP/Motivation are great songs, but were bad single choices. Get Loose would of been great, very club oriented tracks, and at the time T.I. & Nelly were touring, so they could of even performed it together). True, the movie sure as hell helped. yes, his friend died, and (sadly) any publicity is good publicity. The beef with luda was kinda dated when King came out, but Flip's wasnt, and he sure as hell won that beef. It was indeed 1 of the most promoted albums of the year. that's the best explanation so far d-nice, props
Quote from: Lunatic 63 on March 02, 2007, 09:03:11 PMQuote from: d-nice on March 02, 2007, 08:50:28 PMQuote from: Lunatic 63 on March 02, 2007, 08:12:58 PMfirst off, let me start off by saying that i am NOT a hater (T.I. is actually my fav. rapper). But i find his #s intresting (topped 06' for a rapper, and still has a 300,000 lead on jay-z). Why did he sell? alot of theories can easily be wiped away. Some people think he is cheesy and would compare him 2 D4L, DFB, Yung Joc, Jibbs, Young Dro etc. (personally i wouldn't, he's much better then those mentioned). But if we can't agree on that explain this:alot of that "snap" shit flopped. D4L flopped, Dro flopped, Jibbs flopped. Joc was only 1 who did decent #s (styll around 1 mill behind T.I.) and I *THINK* DFB JUST hit gold. Why did T.I. sell so many records? what you know was big, but so was "shoulder lean", "laffy taffy", "chain hang low"I've actually argued this with friends.what are your thoughts?Well it's not like T.I. just sold 1.5 mil out of nowhere. Trap Musik I think went gold, Urban Legend went platinum and this last one is this biggest to date. He had a movie out around the time of his album, although this is bad publicity his friend was killed, he had that on going thing with is he beefing with Ludacris or not, and he picked some nice singles to promote the album so I think the work put in to promote paid off. And hip hop fans down south are very loyal customers so he was able to increase and appeal to a bigger audience.Just for a heads up, Trap Muzik i believe has been certified plat. It was 997,000 last time I heard about it, so i'm assuming it past that 1 mill mark. Even if not, I think it's fair to give him that 3,000 stretch lol. Urban Legend did sell 1.3 mill, that is correct. Imagine if he had an impact of a 3rd single (ASAP/Motivation are great songs, but were bad single choices. Get Loose would of been great, very club oriented tracks, and at the time T.I. & Nelly were touring, so they could of even performed it together). True, the movie sure as hell helped. yes, his friend died, and (sadly) any publicity is good publicity. The beef with luda was kinda dated when King came out, but Flip's wasnt, and he sure as hell won that beef. It was indeed 1 of the most promoted albums of the year. that's the best explanation so far d-nice, props Wow I did not know Trap Musik sold that much. I think the Ludacris thing created a buzz because most people wanted to see them battle each other. The Flip beef did create alot of interest and he did alot of side projects with Diddy and wasn't he a model for Sean John or Rocawear for a little bit? I am bumping King right now and What You Know About That was a CRAZY song. Live In The Sky is ironic that it is on the album and his friend died so it was the perfect song to drop as a tribute and a single. Everything fell right into place for him last year, but the earlier records set it up also.
D4L is GABBAGE! Tried to make it big off of a pop ass single. The days of that are over. I was praying to God they album would not go gold or platinum.
Aww hell nah, they did go gold.D4L DOWN FOR LIFE 03/31/06 ATLANTIC G ALBUM GROUP Std Oh well, I don't even know why they took Nas' Hip Hop Is Dead line personally. They ain't hip hop.
Quote from: d-nice on March 02, 2007, 09:33:06 PMAww hell nah, they did go gold.D4L DOWN FOR LIFE 03/31/06 ATLANTIC G ALBUM GROUP Std Oh well, I don't even know why they took Nas' Hip Hop Is Dead line personally. They ain't hip hop.damn. you know how them labels do though sometimes, say 1 of there records went gold, and it didn't really hit 500,000. Ice Cube & E-40 both had there labels certify them gold quite before they had hit the 500,000 plateau
Quote from: Lunatic 63 on March 02, 2007, 09:35:04 PMQuote from: d-nice on March 02, 2007, 09:33:06 PMAww hell nah, they did go gold.D4L DOWN FOR LIFE 03/31/06 ATLANTIC G ALBUM GROUP Std Oh well, I don't even know why they took Nas' Hip Hop Is Dead line personally. They ain't hip hop.damn. you know how them labels do though sometimes, say 1 of there records went gold, and it didn't really hit 500,000. Ice Cube & E-40 both had there labels certify them gold quite before they had hit the 500,000 plateauTrue. RIAA goes by shipped units.