ESPN Ranks the Top 10 NBA CENTERS of All-Time.

[Now_Im_Not_Banned]

^^Sorry, but that's a major diss to Wilt...Wilt was a way more skilled and hard-working man than Shaq could dream of.

[Citizen-Y]

Bill Simmons, when not talking about Peyton Manning or the Patriots brings ups great points:

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/blog/index?name=simmons

Just to clear something up: I abstained from voting for ESPN.com's "NBA Best Centers Ever" package because I'm a snob about stuff like this. A question like that can't be answered without specific guidelines -- for instance, are you talking about careers, or the ceiling of every center? Kareem had a better career than Walton, but if you were picking between them for one game and your life depended on it, you'd take Walton. There's no debate. Also, are we talking about the impact of the players when they played, or how they compared to every other great center? Russell and Wilt put up phenomenal numbers in the '60s, but you're telling me that Hakeem wouldn't have averaged a 45-25 in 1962? That's why I had to abstain. There's no real way to answer the question.

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/070215

Moses (19 points, 13 boards already) eats up Kareem with an upfake to get to the line. Kareem has to be the only all-time great who was legitimately owned by three rivals in his prime (Walton in the mid-'70s, Hakeem in the mid-'80s, Moses for every year in between). That's why you never hear about him in a "greatest players ever" argument. Well, that and the fact that he was a ninny.

[Now_Im_Not_Banned]

Kareem had a better career than Walton, but if you were picking between them for one game and your life depended on it, you'd take Walton. There's no debate. .

You're telling me that's a great point? That's about one of the dumbest things I've ever heard...Bill Simmons remains a dumbfuck.

Moses (19 points, 13 boards already) eats up Kareem with an upfake to get to the line. Kareem has to be the only all-time great who was legitimately owned by three rivals in his prime (Walton in the mid-'70s, Hakeem in the mid-'80s, Moses for every year in between). That's why you never hear about him in a "greatest players ever" argument. Well, that and the fact that he was a ninny.

Disgusting. This guy has no respect for Kareem whatsoever. He obviously didn't watch him play...Either that, or he's flat out retarded. Kareem owned Walton AND Hakeem (who couldnt win a ring during Kareems reign), people forget that he was the leader of the GREAT Showtime Laker squads up until about 1987 or so when it was Magic's turn to reign...And even BEFORE the Lakers he was collecting rings. FUCK Bill Simmons.

[GangstaBoogy]

This guy has no respect for Kareem whatsoever. He obviously didn't watch him play...

You didn't either. He retired when you were 2.

[Citizen-Y]

Kareem had a better career than Walton, but if you were picking between them for one game and your life depended on it, you'd take Walton. There's no debate. .

You're telling me that's a great point? That's about one of the dumbest things I've ever heard...Bill Simmons remains a dumbfuck.

Moses (19 points, 13 boards already) eats up Kareem with an upfake to get to the line. Kareem has to be the only all-time great who was legitimately owned by three rivals in his prime (Walton in the mid-'70s, Hakeem in the mid-'80s, Moses for every year in between). That's why you never hear about him in a "greatest players ever" argument. Well, that and the fact that he was a ninny.

Disgusting. This guy has no respect for Kareem whatsoever. He obviously didn't watch him play...Either that, or he's flat out retarded. Kareem owned Walton AND Hakeem (who couldnt win a ring during Kareems reign), people forget that he was the leader of the GREAT Showtime Laker squads up until about 1987 or so when it was Magic's turn to reign...And even BEFORE the Lakers he was collecting rings. FUCK Bill Simmons.

Hahhahahaha, man, you know jack and shit.

[Now_Im_Not_Banned]

Kareem had a better career than Walton, but if you were picking between them for one game and your life depended on it, you'd take Walton. There's no debate. .

You're telling me that's a great point? That's about one of the dumbest things I've ever heard...Bill Simmons remains a dumbfuck.

Moses (19 points, 13 boards already) eats up Kareem with an upfake to get to the line. Kareem has to be the only all-time great who was legitimately owned by three rivals in his prime (Walton in the mid-'70s, Hakeem in the mid-'80s, Moses for every year in between). That's why you never hear about him in a "greatest players ever" argument. Well, that and the fact that he was a ninny.

Disgusting. This guy has no respect for Kareem whatsoever. He obviously didn't watch him play...Either that, or he's flat out retarded. Kareem owned Walton AND Hakeem (who couldnt win a ring during Kareems reign), people forget that he was the leader of the GREAT Showtime Laker squads up until about 1987 or so when it was Magic's turn to reign...And even BEFORE the Lakers he was collecting rings. FUCK Bill Simmons.

Hahhahahaha, man, you know jack and shit.

Yea really, that's why most analysts agree with me and not Bill Simmons (who's known for being a dickhead), you fucking retard. You're knowledge in basketball is yet to be proven, so please STFU. Still LMFAO@Bill Walton being better than Kareem.

[Citizen-Y]

Kareem had a better career than Walton, but if you were picking between them for one game and your life depended on it, you'd take Walton. There's no debate. .

You're telling me that's a great point? That's about one of the dumbest things I've ever heard...Bill Simmons remains a dumbfuck.

Moses (19 points, 13 boards already) eats up Kareem with an upfake to get to the line. Kareem has to be the only all-time great who was legitimately owned by three rivals in his prime (Walton in the mid-'70s, Hakeem in the mid-'80s, Moses for every year in between). That's why you never hear about him in a "greatest players ever" argument. Well, that and the fact that he was a ninny.

Disgusting. This guy has no respect for Kareem whatsoever. He obviously didn't watch him play...Either that, or he's flat out retarded. Kareem owned Walton AND Hakeem (who couldnt win a ring during Kareems reign), people forget that he was the leader of the GREAT Showtime Laker squads up until about 1987 or so when it was Magic's turn to reign...And even BEFORE the Lakers he was collecting rings. FUCK Bill Simmons.

Hahhahahaha, man, you know jack and shit.

Yea really, that's why most analysts agree with me and not Bill Simmons (who's known for being a dickhead), you fucking retard. You're kownledge in basketball is yet to be proven, so please STFU. Still LMFAO@Bill Walton being better than Kareem.

So young and so fucking stupid.

[Now_Im_Not_Banned]

This guy has no respect for Kareem whatsoever. He obviously didn't watch him play...

You didn't either. He retired when you were 2.

Yea, well, I've watched enough tape and read enough books to formulate a valid opinion on him as a player...Most of the people who voted weren't old enough to see George Mikan play, what's your point?

[Now_Im_Not_Banned]

Kareem had a better career than Walton, but if you were picking between them for one game and your life depended on it, you'd take Walton. There's no debate. .

You're telling me that's a great point? That's about one of the dumbest things I've ever heard...Bill Simmons remains a dumbfuck.

Moses (19 points, 13 boards already) eats up Kareem with an upfake to get to the line. Kareem has to be the only all-time great who was legitimately owned by three rivals in his prime (Walton in the mid-'70s, Hakeem in the mid-'80s, Moses for every year in between). That's why you never hear about him in a "greatest players ever" argument. Well, that and the fact that he was a ninny.

Disgusting. This guy has no respect for Kareem whatsoever. He obviously didn't watch him play...Either that, or he's flat out retarded. Kareem owned Walton AND Hakeem (who couldnt win a ring during Kareems reign), people forget that he was the leader of the GREAT Showtime Laker squads up until about 1987 or so when it was Magic's turn to reign...And even BEFORE the Lakers he was collecting rings. FUCK Bill Simmons.

Hahhahahaha, man, you know jack and shit.

Yea really, that's why most analysts agree with me and not Bill Simmons (who's known for being a dickhead), you fucking retard. You're kownledge in basketball is yet to be proven, so please STFU. Still LMFAO@Bill Walton being better than Kareem.

So young and so fucking stupid.

That's why you haven't made one valid point in this thread, right? So young? I'm 20 years old, son. At least if you're gunna make jackass claims, back them up with something, don't sound like a complete moron with nothing to say....


Do you agree with Bill Simmons? Bill Walton was a better player than Kareem in his prime?

[Citizen-Y]

Kareem had a better career than Walton, but if you were picking between them for one game and your life depended on it, you'd take Walton. There's no debate. .

You're telling me that's a great point? That's about one of the dumbest things I've ever heard...Bill Simmons remains a dumbfuck.

Moses (19 points, 13 boards already) eats up Kareem with an upfake to get to the line. Kareem has to be the only all-time great who was legitimately owned by three rivals in his prime (Walton in the mid-'70s, Hakeem in the mid-'80s, Moses for every year in between). That's why you never hear about him in a "greatest players ever" argument. Well, that and the fact that he was a ninny.

Disgusting. This guy has no respect for Kareem whatsoever. He obviously didn't watch him play...Either that, or he's flat out retarded. Kareem owned Walton AND Hakeem (who couldnt win a ring during Kareems reign), people forget that he was the leader of the GREAT Showtime Laker squads up until about 1987 or so when it was Magic's turn to reign...And even BEFORE the Lakers he was collecting rings. FUCK Bill Simmons.

Hahhahahaha, man, you know jack and shit.

Yea really, that's why most analysts agree with me and not Bill Simmons (who's known for being a dickhead), you fucking retard. You're kownledge in basketball is yet to be proven, so please STFU. Still LMFAO@Bill Walton being better than Kareem.

So young and so fucking stupid.

That's why you haven't made one valid point in this thread, right? So young? I'm 20 years old, son. At least if you're gunna make jackass claims, back them up with something, don't sound like a complete moron with nothing to say....


Do you agree with Bill Simmons? Bill Walton was a better player than Kareem in his prime?

Do you even realize how great Walton was when he was healthy?  He was possibly the greatest college player of all time and had a stellar NBA career when healthy including sweeping YOUR Lakers when YOUR boy Kareem led them.  Stop getting butt hurt that your boy isn't considered the best of all time.

Anytime there is a Laker in the argument I'm not even considering your opinion.  Russell is the best of all time, Wilt is second.

[Now_Im_Not_Banned]

Kareem had a better career than Walton, but if you were picking between them for one game and your life depended on it, you'd take Walton. There's no debate. .

You're telling me that's a great point? That's about one of the dumbest things I've ever heard...Bill Simmons remains a dumbfuck.

Moses (19 points, 13 boards already) eats up Kareem with an upfake to get to the line. Kareem has to be the only all-time great who was legitimately owned by three rivals in his prime (Walton in the mid-'70s, Hakeem in the mid-'80s, Moses for every year in between). That's why you never hear about him in a "greatest players ever" argument. Well, that and the fact that he was a ninny.

Disgusting. This guy has no respect for Kareem whatsoever. He obviously didn't watch him play...Either that, or he's flat out retarded. Kareem owned Walton AND Hakeem (who couldnt win a ring during Kareems reign), people forget that he was the leader of the GREAT Showtime Laker squads up until about 1987 or so when it was Magic's turn to reign...And even BEFORE the Lakers he was collecting rings. FUCK Bill Simmons.

Hahhahahaha, man, you know jack and shit.

Yea really, that's why most analysts agree with me and not Bill Simmons (who's known for being a dickhead), you fucking retard. You're kownledge in basketball is yet to be proven, so please STFU. Still LMFAO@Bill Walton being better than Kareem.

So young and so fucking stupid.

That's why you haven't made one valid point in this thread, right? So young? I'm 20 years old, son. At least if you're gunna make jackass claims, back them up with something, don't sound like a complete moron with nothing to say....


Do you agree with Bill Simmons? Bill Walton was a better player than Kareem in his prime?

Do you even realize how great Walton was when he was healthy?  He was possibly the greatest college player of all time and had a stellar NBA career when healthy including sweeping YOUR Lakers when YOUR boy Kareem led them.  Stop getting butt hurt that your boy isn't considered the best of all time.

Anytime there is a Laker in the argument I'm not even considering your opinion.  Russell is the best of all time, Wilt is second.

And do you know how fucking amazing Kareem was? I think not. Ask ANY player out there what the most unstoppable shot ever was. THE SKY-HOOK. Kareem dominated in 3 different eras of basketball. He collected 6 rings with 2 teams, and was the leader of some of the greatest teams in basketball history for 20 seasons! LMFAO@Bill Walton. Walton never lived up to his expectations in the NBA, he was one of the greatest college players ever with UCLA, but he was extremely limited by inuries in the NBA. You got a case with Wilt and maybe Bill Rusell, but it's pretty much a HUGE JOKE to put Bill Walton over Kareem.

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So ESPN has credibility now NIK?  Cuz usually anytime anybody cites them you call them BSPN or biased or Laker haters. 

And the list looks good to me.

Bill Walton should definitely not be that high

exactly wat i was gunna say...this isnt college

[Don Jacob]

if you guys disagree with their lists so much why don't you make your own in the official qualification thread 

[Hatesrats™]

List look's bout' right (IMO)..
Tho I'd prob interchange 2 & 3

Russel number #2 & Wilt #3
Kareem reign's at the top

[Bay Area Jat]

how Nate Thurmond was not on this list is beyond me. Ask Kareem and Wilt they will tell u he was prolly the 2nd best defensive center of all time