a little bit about a lot of things

[engelwood]

Mellow-

I know you got a lot of questions on your plate right now, but I was just wondering if you could tell us a little bit about Knock-turn'al and his new album. A couple of snippet tracks found thier way onto the internet, and Knock became one of my most looked forward to... From what I have seen, he can do no wrong! Any info would be great, perhaps a general release date for it? Thanks a great deal

-Engelwood

[Sir Hambone]

R.I.P.  Oh My God
R.I.P.  Hittman on aftermath


ahhh well........


thanks mellowman......props to you..and the whole aftermath staff..........shit im just happy to hear some dre produce tracks on other peoples albums like mary j and busta........

we are all excited to hear collabs with dre and hittman....but......as we all know...dre made a star out of snoop..........eminem.......and the truth is next...and someone new after that.....so we have something to look forward too next year or the next.......dont worry affiliatez.......just think about it for a moment............dre did 70 tracks just for the Truth........and u know Dre and snoop have a ton of tracks...........that will be on snoops album.....and this was thee most G-funk, dpgc year of all time.....so we have been blessed with a gang of releases from our fav. artist......we cant get to greedy.....especially after what happen on sept.11....sit back..and go and enjoy your cds u have already......and we can wait for dre to drop another.

Mellowman......thanks again......hope you and the rest of the aftermath staff and warren and the rest of the fam is doing good......stay true.....

and tell dre to save some of that funk for next year!!!!!

[Young Dan Iza]

hey are u mel man?

[IKON]

No Rakim and Hittman. If that comes out to be true Iam dissapointed in Dre. Those 2 guys could go platinum easily and they would have really heated albums with Dre on the production.

Please Dre give us atleast one album.

Which one would u guys want???
The Rakim or the Hittman?

I would want the Rakim.

[LatinThugLife213]

i bet cha he is too

[DreSnoop00]

hey mellowman thanks for tha news man
but damn i want tha rakim album to drop.. hopefully eveyrthing comes through good and it will drop
but thanks for tha news. now i know whats goin on

[Lil Jay]

if you knew everything involved and the shit in the music business that happens you would appreciate things a lot more

WORD.

and yall ask too many questions. and why do you say RIP Rakim & Hittman, he sayd there is a SMALL chance he wont drop, just wait and see. how can u be disappointed, mellow sayd that dre will pursue every possibilty to get this album done.
i just hope this nate dogg track gets released



but thanx for the info mellowman... stay up

[=[Euthanasia]=]

Some of that shit was deep. & I really don't wanna sound dissapointed wit some of the news but the fact is some of it sounds doubtful (ie Rakim, Hittman). But i'm not gonna write off The Wash until i've heard it ALL wit my own ears.....the only thing I was really dissapointed about was the fact that Snoop & Dre didn't get to do more trks, but I understand & respect that some of the reasons were due to the Sept 11th incident. Props 4 the news Mellow.

[Dogg_Pound_Gangsta]

Yo Mel thankx for the info, but what kind of problems is hittman having with aftermath.  and is eminem and dre still coll with each other.

peace

[mellowman]

thanks for the support everyone on tha7th's anti-mellowman thread which thankfully now is locked, but there is no need to trash anyone who doesn't believe me or like me. so leave tha7th and bigg bpg alone. they can think what they want. the only thing that bothers me is when people address an entire thread that calls me out. i don't know why people
can't keep some opinions to themselves or between their friends on this board, using an outside way of communication. i don't think its right to call me out on a thread title just to bring some attention to oneself. believe me if i do leave the board,  it will be because of some personal reason,
not because of what someone does, what someone believes, or  what someone says about me. and if i do leave i will definetly explain my reasons. i would at least owe you guys that much. the events of september 11th have caused me to rethink and reevaluate where my priority's are and whether i am taking time away from my family when i post on this board. music takes up most of my time so i have to make sure i am spending my spare time in the right way.
anyways i find it very funny that people expect me to know for sure if hittman will ever drop or rakim will drop or most planned releases for that matter. hittman doesn't know, dre doesn't even know, nobody knows. so how in the hell am i suppose to know? i just give you updates on the current status of all dre and aftermath projects and a few others.  the others i have to limit what i say because people trust me and i will not compromise or risk losing that by saying something i have no right to say. the only thing i know for sure is that the wash will drop, truth hurts will drop and at some point dre's detox will drop. other than that the other projects can go either way. and no one knows for sure what the outcome will be.
someone asked if dre and eminem are cool. yes they are. they haven't done a whole lot together lately but they will in the near future. now to the reason for my post. like i mentioned earlier on this thread every time a dre affiliated project falls through, people automatically blame dre. most of the time that is totally unfair. when it comes to music dre has few faults. dre's faults come from two of his biggest attributes, passion for music and his perfectionism. when dre first gets a project lined up he cannot contain his excitment and will sometimes drop a release date for that project to come out. usually its an unrealistic date. one example was announcing rakim's album would come out in spring of this year. it was not possible.but this reason has yet to be a reason a project has never dropped. dre's perfectionism will sometimes be a small factor in project's dying or stopping worthy songs from being released. but his two sometimes faults are also his biggest reasons for his past and future success. he won't change how he does things. but that reason is also never really a reason a project won't drop. dre decided not to pursue a few projects he originally was going to do for various reasons. the dre/trent reznor album was put off because dre was busy with 2001 and the mmlp. also reznor was releasing his double lp. dre remixed the track "even deeper" for that album and they were going to do a joint album together. when trents album flopped it sent him in a tailspin. they both, especially dre decided to drop the project. they have talked recently but we'll have to wait. Helterskelter was scratched because of the unfolding situation at death row. the criminal atmosphere of the death row studio kept dre away from the studio. plus suge was never going to release the album. it would have sat like nate doggs album along with many others. also, a few years ago cube decided that movies were much more important than music. so helterskelter will never drop. this brings us to the nwa reunion. THE NWA REUNION WILL NEVER HAPPEN. when the project was first brought up dre was the one who originally did not want to go backwards and do it. there is no nwa without dre. once dre decided to do it the same thing happened with cube. no ice cube no nwa. after using two leftover dre beats for chin check and hello the first recording sessions were scheduled to occur. dre, ren and even yella got together to start putting it together. ice cube had decided to take the role in his "mars" movie rather than work on the nwa project. again, no cube no nwa. it only took a few unproductive recording sessions with ren, dre and sometimes yella to realize that the nwa reunion wasn't going to work. dre wasn't happy with the early results and cube wasn't around. i for one am glad the project was scratched, even though i was pumped to work on it. first there was no eazy. in my opinion no eazy no nwa. also i think everyone realized that nwa getting back together was going backwards. dre, ren and cube aren't teenagers anymore, hungry, mad and desperate surrounded by negativity, gangs and violence. dre, cube and ren all matured grew up and left the old stomping grounds. all three had families all three had new perspectives and priority's had changed. an nwa album looked almost desperate and too negative. and in the end it just wasn't going to work.
as far as king t, eve and other early aftermath releases that never happened here is the reason. dre signed way too many artists out of the gate at aftermath. he started with way too big of scope and it took a while to realize that. after disappointing albums and a excess amount of artists, contracts, budgets and expenses dre knew aftermath would never make it unless he started over. he dropped every artist and started over. he fell down with his first experiences running a label on his own. he had to dump everything and start from scratch. only mel-man stayed on as a producer. dre had to drop king t's album. he had no choice. he had to move eve. fortunately dre got back on his feet, got his shit together, signed eminem and created the monster that Aftermath is now. and when it comes to rakim and hittman dre would be responisble for a small part of the blame. other factors have much bigger impact. i hope this clarifies some things.

[mellowman]

i also wanted to thank ant and sir hambone for some much needed perspective and thoughtful points of view. i agree with ant about the bin laden song. he made many good points and made me rethink my thinking. although the track is extra special that does not mean it should come out. it is not the right way or the time.
it sounds like some of you have heard "the wash". to believe some of y'all doubted us, doubted dre. if that track can't make beilievers out of people nothing will.
someone asked me what i thought about "welcome to death row". the first 2/3 of it were outstanding and were real accurate and fair. it did a nice job of tracing suge's changes. he started out with the right attitude and the right intentions. and although he had small gang affiliations he was mostly a good kid who stayed out of trouble, came from a good home, played college football, hit the books and got a college degree. suge always enhances his street image by blowing his past up. at the same time he disses dre for his lack of street rep. but the fact is that both grew up esentially the same way. focused, out of trouble and intent on being successful. suge ain't really the gangsta he claims we was. but he is now. he changed a lot and the movie was accurate in that respect. beating up a woman severly isn't a big deal to him. he truly turned into a monster, and although i still believe that he was involved in pac's death i won't get into that again. the last third of the movie kind of let suge off the hook and even sucked up to him at the end, by including comments from people so scared of suge they'd praise him if he killed someone they loved. anyway enough about...oh shit i forgot his name. must be some washed up and depsperate has been. and the movie shouldn't have even really talked about pacs death cause they left out a lot of things and didn't go into the details or talk to the right people about it. another thing i didn't like was allowing alonzo of the wrecking crew to vent his jealosy towards dre with some stupid comments. he made a lot of other good points but dissing dre wasn't necessary.i loved some of snoops comments and the nate dogg mugg shot. overall it was good and very accurate in most cases. it is as close to the real story as you will get.  

[AfterMathematics]

Hey mellow,

Thanks for all the info homeboy.  I really appreciate it.

Peace

[AlerG]

mellow, even if rakim doesn't drop the album, that's cool...i just hope that the tracks leak one day for my enjoyment...that cd was what i was looking forward to since last september when i heard that dre signed rakim...i know that talking about why isn't the right thing to do, so i'm a respect that and drop it...as for dre, i give him big ups and hope he continues to do his thang...oh yeah, and mellow you have to think G thang 2 when you hear the wash...that shit is like the illest shit i've heard since, well, a very very very long time...

it's like this and like that and like this and ugh, peace.

[C_R_O_N_I_C_I]

Thanx for the post Mellow.
...The Knocturnal's cut is AMAZING!
The beat is really tight,when will be out his album?
...and what can u tell  me about Snoop's new album?
Is better than Last Meal?
There are some dr dre's tracks?
Thank u very much,peace!

[Lil Jay]

you ask too many questions again  


but this shit with the albums made me think. the ones that  got screwed, eve & king t and future projects. nwa, rakim, hittman. the fucked up thing is that they really want that 2 happen, but it just dont happen