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How terrorists are made...Are you disgusted?
Now_Im_Not_Banned:
--- Quote from: virtuoso on March 14, 2007, 11:41:32 AM ---Nik you really are a joke no one can take you seriously because you display no rationality. You have this fixed world view which includes these "evil arabs" however all you want to focus on is the effect, you are simply not interested in the underlying causes. You belong in the same category as the type of screwed up people I have encountered on other forums, who decry the killing of innocent jews and yet do not want to acknowledge the fact that the Israeli authorities do not want peace. If they wanted peace they would not randomnly bulldoze homes, they would not carry out collective punishments, they would not target basic amenities and they would not be operating what is an effectively a mass concentration camp. I don't even blame you or hold it against you, for so many years I viewed the Irisih as the problem, they were the terrorists, they were the ones targeting innocent civilians and soldiers just because they wanted a war, pure mindless hatred etc. However in retrospect I was not seeing the reality of the situation and neither are you now.
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You are the blind one...At least I admit that there is hatred and damage coming from both sides. Your dumb ass wants to actually believe that the Jews dont want peace and are bulldozing homes for the fuck of it. Just because I don't read into politics as much as you doesn't mean I'm not 100X smarter and more rational than you...And based on your post, that seems to be the case. You can try to educate yourself all you want, but common sense prevails.
Now_Im_Not_Banned:
--- Quote from: *Z* on March 14, 2007, 11:49:56 AM ---
--- Quote from: Now_I_Know on March 14, 2007, 11:44:43 AM ---
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--- Quote from: Now_I_Know on March 14, 2007, 11:22:22 AM ---
Israel would have probably given in a long time ago had they been powerless, especially if we didn't really urgently need a homeland, such as the Muslims. I highly doubt we'd be out there teaching our kids how to suicide bomb, I believe Israelis are a little more civil than that.
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THIS is some nationalist crap! how can you claim that "israelis" in general are actually more civil than "that" (whatever it means) do you know every single israeli to claim that? how can you generalize in such a way? and how can ou predict how israelis would behave in such a situation?
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I'm giving my opinion. Isn't that what this board's about? Being Israeli, and living amongst Israelis my whole life, I think it's safe to say I have a pretty credible opinion on their beliefs and ethics. I'm pretty damn sure that we would NOT resort to suicide bombings had we been placed in those conditions, and it DEFINITELY wouldn't be encouraged amongst the majority of our people. I don't really think you have enough experience with the two groups of people (Arabs and Jews) to comment on this...
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of course, if you have lived among israelis all your life long you must have more objectivity than i do, pardon me!
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I got to observe these people growing up, and from an unbiased perspective, I can honestly say that I can never even begin to imagine them blowing up for 72 virgins...
virtuoso:
That is indicative of your lack of understanding of the situation. The israelis authorities do not want peace, if they wanted peace they would not have funded Hamas to act as a rival political party against the PLO. They would not continue to build yet more settlements on the occupied territories which only further diminishes the chance of a 2 state solution. As for the bulldozing of homes, it is what is known as collective punishment, homes are bulldozed to send out a message, likewise electricity and water supplies are attacked to punish the palestinian people.
I TO DA GEEZY:
Israel has enough military power to afford not making people sacrifice their lives for 72 virgins. This being said, it requires that it's IDF servicemen "fight and conduct themselves with courage in the face of all dangers and obstacles; They will persevere in their missions resolutely and thoughtfully even to the point of endangering their lives."
Tenacity of Purpose in Performing Missions and Drive to Victory,The IDF Spirit (Ethics Doctrine):
http://www1.idf.il/dover/site/mainpage.asp?sl=EN&id=32
Now_Im_Not_Banned:
Lets see what Palestinian kids get to watch on TV...
http://www.youtube.com/v/Ad8ETI9B8rw
Thank God I have a brain of my own...If I didn't know better, I really would think Israelis are evil people out for blood.
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