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How terrorists are made...Are you disgusted?
Now_Im_Not_Banned:
--- Quote from: virtuoso on March 14, 2007, 12:14:53 PM ---
The notion that this is not collective punishment is smashed to pieces by the damning words of the prime minister of Israeli Olmert who declared that "we will bomb Gaza back to the stone age".
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When a Jewish leader makes a comment like that, it's an outrage. It's never forgotten. It's replayed over and over...When an Arab says the same type of shit, it's taken with a grain of salt, because it is so typical and predictable...I can tell you've been reading a lot of anti-Israeli propaganda...I'm not into all that bullshit. It really goes both ways. I'm not about to go back and forth. At least I realize that the problem does not stem from one side only though. You, my friend, are just brainwashed...PeACe
Now_Im_Not_Banned:
--- Quote from: J @ M @ L on March 14, 2007, 12:24:02 PM ---1. Just because you can't refute my arguments, doesn't mean it's a bunch of pointless shit. I brought the things up because you oversimplify the whole thing, and are basically saying "Look at this video! This video explains it all. We don't need to look at the underlying root causes of the problem". That's dumb.
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Where did I say this video explains it all? LOL. Now you're just making shit up...
--- Quote from: J @ M @ L on March 14, 2007, 12:24:02 PM ---2. You can't justify displacing a population, killing them, taking their land, illegally occupying the land they have left to keep, building barriers to steal more land and resources, etc... just because Jews needed a homeland. There's no way to justify Israel's atrocities based on that argument. There's also no way to justify them displacing the population and creating their own "Jewish state" to begin with.
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There's no justifications for many things happening, that's from BOTH sides, but can we stick to the topic? We're not talking about what's justifiable and what's not, we're talking about a sick video. Like I said, if you want to start talking about fucked up shit Israelis do, open your own thread for it.
--- Quote from: J @ M @ L on March 14, 2007, 12:24:02 PM ---3. "I believe Israelis are a bit more civil than that" So Israelis are civilized, and Palestinians aren't. That's good to know man. You're so rational, you might as well be speaking in one of those videos yourself.
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LOL. So you don't think Israelis are more civil than Palestinians? Come on, now. Even you can't deny that.
--- Quote from: J @ M @ L on March 14, 2007, 12:24:02 PM ---"I don't give a fuck if 100 Jews raped that girls dad, it's still not okay, no matter what". You're irrational.
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So it's rational to tell a kid that the Koran says Jews are pigs and apes? LOL!
--- Quote from: J @ M @ L on March 14, 2007, 12:24:02 PM ---And yes, they are bulldozing homes for the fuck of it.
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--- Quote from: J @ M @ L on March 14, 2007, 12:24:02 PM --- You're irrational.
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J @ M @ L:
By the way, you keep bringing up Muslim/Jew. If you really think this is about religion, you're sadly mistaken and uninformed. Just as Jews have a problem with extremists, and not Muslims in general... Palestinians/Muslims have a problem with the Israeli government, not Jews. You also forget that there are thousands of Palestinian Christians also suffering the same fate under the illegal Israeli occupation.
People - Muslims, Christians, and Jews - were living very peacefully amongst eachother prior to the the 20th century. Even the first waves of European Jews migrated to Palestine, the people cooperated and helped eachother. Jews set up plantations, and the Palestinian Arabs worked for them. And remember, that people from all over have been moving to Palestine to set up communities there, and you didn't see a problem. The only difference is the Zionists had a political agenda/goal... to displace the Palestinians, and create a country where they'd be the majority on that land. If you were rational, you'd immediately recognize that's the start of the conflict, and would realize it's not justified at all. If you want to say that Jews needed a homeland because of persecution... fine, I'm not one to say they didn't... but what wrong did the Palestinians commit? Did the Palestinians have anything to do with the holocaust? Oh yeah, as the videos I posted show... "God gave you this land"... and that justifies all the atrocities.
virtuoso:
Of course it works both ways, when did I ever deny that? the point is though Israeli is the force with the big army, the arsenal of weapons and has all the power. The quote simply exposes the fact that the israeli authorities do not want real peace, this is not an attack on all jews, or israelis for that matter, I am just saying when you look at the underlying causes for these suicide attacks, it becomes apparent that the israeli powers have contributed massively to this situation.
Now_Im_Not_Banned:
--- Quote from: J @ M @ L on March 14, 2007, 12:34:07 PM ---By the way, you keep bringing up Muslim/Jew. If you really think this is about religion, you're sadly mistaken and uninformed. Just as Jews have a problem with extremists, and not Muslims in general... Palestinians/Muslims have a problem with the Israeli government, not Jews. You also forget that there are thousands of Palestinian Christians also suffering the same fate under the illegal Israeli occupation.
People - Muslims, Christians, and Jews - were living very peacefully amongst eachother prior to the the 20th century. Even the first waves of European Jews migrated to Palestine, the people cooperated and helped eachother. Jews set up plantations, and the Palestinian Arabs worked for them. And remember, that people from all over have been moving to Palestine to set up communities there, and you didn't see a problem. The only difference is the Zionists had a political agenda/goal... to displace the Palestinians, and create a country where they'd be the majority on that land. If you were rational, you'd immediately recognize that's the start of the conflict, and would realize it's not justified at all. If you want to say that Jews needed a homeland because of persecution... fine, I'm not one to say they didn't... but what wrong did the Palestinians commit? Did the Palestinians have anything to do with the holocaust? Oh yeah, as the videos I posted show... "God gave you this land"... and that justifies all the atrocities.
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Sorry bro, land gets taken all the time, it never drags out like this though...The land we're living on right now was taken. It's just how the world came to be. Israelis were living in Israel way before it was official land...The land was officially given to us, it's just how shit happens. And you're right, it's not a Jewish-Muslim conflict, but as you can see in the video, the Arabs are obviously making it that way... :-\
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