Time for the end of the "Old Firm"

[Sweet & Tender Hooligan]

In light of tonights dignity fest in Northern Spain, it's about time the club made inroads to ridding ourselves of the Old Firm tag. Personally I hate it. It makes it easier for the hun media to involve us in things that have nothing to do with us. For one set of supporters to be applauded leaving a stadium to another rioting shows the massive gulf between the two. What's the betting we get dragged into the shambles in tomorrows rags when a week ago we were being lauded.

from another board. Spot on.

[Boo-Yaa †]

I just got out my bed ther, not had a chance to see the news or any of the papers...

Many arrested?

[TheDeli]

In light of tonights dignity fest in Northern Spain, it's about time the club made inroads to ridding ourselves of the Old Firm tag. Personally I hate it. It makes it easier for the hun media to involve us in things that have nothing to do with us. For one set of supporters to be applauded leaving a stadium to another rioting shows the massive gulf between the two. What's the betting we get dragged into the shambles in tomorrows rags when a week ago we were being lauded.

from another board. Spot on.

Any flights diverted to Cardiff?

Any trouble at Vigo airport?

Any fans shot in Amsterdam?

Any refs attacked?

You's arrested anyone for hitting Ricksen with that lighter yet?

You lot are no angels trust me!

The trouble in Spain do you know what actually happened? 

[Boo-Yaa †]

Just saw some an atricle online about it all ther, scumbags at it again.. not surprised in the slightest!

This one caught my eye tho

[KURUPTION-81]

So what actually happened ?

Sky news earlier didnt show any pictures all they had was some people from rangers condemming it .

[TheDeli]

So what actually happened ?

Sky news earlier didnt show any pictures all they had was some people from rangers condemming it .

The Spanish Police were their usual throwing their batons around hitting people

This started approx 1.5 to 2 hours before the game beside were the offical Rangers coaches were parked, the police were hitting innocent bystanders and laying into women, fans were then marched to the stadium in a line and were hit at will by the police, the police then started hitting Rangers fans inside the ground with none or little fightback from the Rangers fans, the police were used as segreation but when they started to go for fans at the rear of the stand fans moved forward which resulted in fans at the front of the stand being hit backwards from the police there.  After the game Rangers fans were still in the ground (the norm for away matches in Europe) and when allowed to leave fans were again attacked by the police.

I personally know people both men and women who received a baton to some part of the body, and these people aren't the sort that would cause trouble, one of them is infact a police officer in Scotland who was disgusted at what happened.

There were a total of 2 arrests there one before the game and one after the game both for 'minor offences' and both released with no charges.  Isn't this strange when some people seem to what to report it as Rangers fans causing trouble and rioting with police?

It was a case of foreign police officers wishing to have some bother with a large number of British fans

Here's a short video of outside the ground

Beating in Spain

[Mac 10 †]

So what actually happened ?

Sky news earlier didnt show any pictures all they had was some people from rangers condemming it .

The Spanish Police were their usual throwing their batons around hitting people

This started approx 1.5 to 2 hours before the game beside were the offical Rangers coaches were parked, the police were hitting innocent bystanders and laying into women, fans were then marched to the stadium in a line and were hit at will by the police, the police then started hitting Rangers fans inside the ground with none or little fightback from the Rangers fans, the police were used as segreation but when they started to go for fans at the rear of the stand fans moved forward which resulted in fans at the front of the stand being hit backwards from the police there.  After the game Rangers fans were still in the ground (the norm for away matches in Europe) and when allowed to leave fans were again attacked by the police.

I personally know people both men and women who received a baton to some part of the body, and these people aren't the sort that would cause trouble, one of them is infact a police officer in Scotland who was disgusted at what happened.

There were a total of 2 arrests there one before the game and one after the game both for 'minor offences' and both released with no charges.  Isn't this strange when some people seem to what to report it as Rangers fans causing trouble and rioting with police?

It was a case of foreign police officers wishing to have some bother with a large number of British fans

Here's a short video of outside the ground

Beating in Spain

Lol.

[TheDeli]

Lol.

Eh?

Did that amuse you?

[KURUPTION-81]

There seems to be too many european police who dont seem to know how to handle british fans.

[TheDeli]

There seems to be too many european police who dont seem to know how to handle british fans.

It could be time for British clubs taking their own security with them, surely UEFA must do something about the way that British club are treated in European games.  If this sort of thing was to happen at a British ground then UEFA would be very heavy with a punishment IMO

Look at the way that West Ham, Manchester United and Rangers have been treated this season alone

[Boo-Yaa †]

IMO its not just the police, there are many british clubs who have had games in europe without ANY trouble at all...

Its sections of the support who travel looking for trouble!!

I know the police are more strict and 'hands on' but they dont just randomly attack fans, if this was the case then all british clubs that went to europe would be attacked!

[bez]

IMO its not just the police, there are many british clubs who have had games in europe without ANY trouble at all...

Its sections of the support who travel looking for trouble!!

I know the police are more strict and 'hands on' but they dont just randomly attack fans, if this was the case then all british clubs that went to europe would be attacked!

Mate you are talking shit.  It has been proven in the past that the police have attacked British/English fans, just for being English.  Madrid in 1990 (I think it was).  English fans have a bad reputation so the police always go over the top when it comes to policing.  E.G, the segregation to that island in Italia 90.  THeres been too many examples for it to be coincidence. 

[Boo-Yaa †]

English fans have a bad reputation so the police always go over the top when it comes to policing. 

You said it yourself mate!

Why do they have this bad reputation?

English fans get treated the way they do becos they cause trouble where ever they go! FACT

[KURUPTION-81]

English fans have a bad reputation so the police always go over the top when it comes to policing. 

You said it yourself mate!

Why do they have this bad reputation?

English fans get treated the way they do becos they cause trouble where ever they go! FACT

Yeah the national side have a very bad reputation and sometimes un justily that is taken out on english club side fans.

[bez]

English fans have a bad reputation so the police always go over the top when it comes to policing. 

You said it yourself mate!

Why do they have this bad reputation?

English fans get treated the way they do becos they cause trouble where ever they go! FACT

But when have we behaved differently to any other fans when they go abroad?  Ok Luxembourg was a disgrace but that was what about 15/20 years ago.  Every other battle since then has been with/started by opposing fans who have behaved in exactly the same manner.  E.G, Germany at last years World Cup finals.  Police on the continent hold British fan's as all HOOLIGANS when FACT is they are not.  Only a minority are.  That doesn't give anybody the right to hit you with a baton.  Thats how fights will start.