Kobe for MVP (good read)

[Antonio_]

Lakers just had a 7 game loss streak, in the middle of the season, with Kobe playing. They've got the 6th seed and won't get the 5th. Imo the team of the MVP should do better than that.

One shouldn't forget that there was a time in the season in which the Lakers did pretty good without Kobe scoring like crazy. Imo it's the trait of a young player to just score like crazy. A more mature player will know that taking 50 posessions a game will not take the team to another level, no matter how good he is.

Believe what you want but nobody, not even Kobe is good enough to score enough points by himself to get the W on a consistant basis. There has to be something that you can call a team there to make noise down the stretch of the season. Other players have to get their shots to get their hands hot etc.

Kobe is the best individual player in the NBA, but to me that doesn't justify him getting the MVP award for the reasons above.

Try another excuse.

Kobe Bryant 28 years old = 26.7 shots per game
Michael Jordan 29 years old = 28.6 shots per game
Michael Jordan 30 years old = 28.6 shots per game
Michael Jordan 31 years old = injured
Michael Jordan 32 years old = 25.7 shots per game
Michael Jordan 33 years old = 26.7 shots per game
Michael Jordan 34 years old = 24.6 shots per game
Michael Jordan 38 years old = 23.0 shots per game (he wasn't a starter no more)
Michael Jodan 39 years old = 19.2 shots per game

He shot less, yeah. When he was 39 years old, but just because he drastically reduced his minutes per game.

Once again it looks like pure hate to me.

Lol THANK YOU! I love how people think Jordan was the best scorer, rebounder, passer, 3 point shooter, dunker, shot blocker, and everything else just cuz he's retired. He was a top 5 player not doubt, but I don't see a big difference in his style of play and Kobe's style of play.

I see a difference...Kobe has RANGE.

Kobe can run the ball better, he has more range, he's better offensively and he's half italian. Those are huge differences, expecially the last one.

[GangstaBoogy]

Lakers just had a 7 game loss streak, in the middle of the season, with Kobe playing. They've got the 6th seed and won't get the 5th. Imo the team of the MVP should do better than that.

One shouldn't forget that there was a time in the season in which the Lakers did pretty good without Kobe scoring like crazy. Imo it's the trait of a young player to just score like crazy. A more mature player will know that taking 50 posessions a game will not take the team to another level, no matter how good he is.

Believe what you want but nobody, not even Kobe is good enough to score enough points by himself to get the W on a consistant basis. There has to be something that you can call a team there to make noise down the stretch of the season. Other players have to get their shots to get their hands hot etc.

Kobe is the best individual player in the NBA, but to me that doesn't justify him getting the MVP award for the reasons above.

Try another excuse.

Kobe Bryant 28 years old = 26.7 shots per game
Michael Jordan 29 years old = 28.6 shots per game
Michael Jordan 30 years old = 28.6 shots per game
Michael Jordan 31 years old = injured
Michael Jordan 32 years old = 25.7 shots per game
Michael Jordan 33 years old = 26.7 shots per game
Michael Jordan 34 years old = 24.6 shots per game
Michael Jordan 38 years old = 23.0 shots per game (he wasn't a starter no more)
Michael Jodan 39 years old = 19.2 shots per game

He shot less, yeah. When he was 39 years old, but just because he drastically reduced his minutes per game.

Once again it looks like pure hate to me.

Lol THANK YOU! I love how people think Jordan was the best scorer, rebounder, passer, 3 point shooter, dunker, shot blocker, and everything else just cuz he's retired. He was a top 5 player not doubt, but I don't see a big difference in his style of play and Kobe's style of play.

I see a difference...Kobe has RANGE.

Kobe can run the ball better, he has more range, he's better offensively and he's half italian. Those are huge differences, expecially the last one.

Ya'll know what I mean.

[GangstaBoogy]

It is fair to ask: Has Bryant thrust himself into the Most Valuable Player picture with this run? Can he challenge Dallas' Dirk Nowitzki and Phoenix's Steve Nash, still the clear leaders in the MVP race?

The real question: Are the Lakers good enough to justify a first-place MVP vote for Bryant?

"The one year (Kevin) Garnett won the MVP was because we had a great record in Minnesota," said Saunders, who coached the Timberwolves during Garnett's only MVP season in 2003-04. "There were a lot of other years he was more valuable to us than the year we won 52 games. But because we were not one of the elite teams, he didn't get any recognition.

"What happens is, the MVP goes to a guy from one of the top two, three teams in the league and you have a guy who is an All-Star player who plays at a high level."

Pistons center Chris Webber, who was an MVP candidate when he was the key player on Kings teams that won 61 and 59 games, believes Bryant would be a "no-brainer" MVP were the criteria simply that the award go to the best player.

"Well, he's the best player, by far," Webber said. "Dirk or Nash don't really play defense. And you talk about LeBron (James), well, LeBron doesn't check Kobe, but Kobe checks LeBron. Kobe does pattern himself after Michael (Jordan) in that fact that he's going to check the best. I think that's why he's the best player, because he's one of the best scorers and one of the best defenders."

Even Webber would have trouble putting Bryant's name on the top line of his MVP ballot, though.

"It depends on what the definition of the MVP is," he said. "If it's the best player, he has it. But who's more important to their team? I don't think Phoenix would be anything without Nash."

Of course, the Lakers would not be in the playoff field at all, capable of scaring the daylights out of Spurs fans in the first round, without Bryant. Does that make him as valuable to his team as Nash is to the Suns or Nowitzki is to the Mavs? More so?

"In my opinion, he should have won it last year," Horry said. "But this year, Dirk is having such a great year I'd have to give it Dirk, because they've got the best record in the league and he's been playing on bad ankles and still having a great year."

Then there is Bryant's negative image.

"Nobody's going to vote for Kobe because of the perception about his attitude, that he's arrogant," said Horry, who also stressed that he considered Bryant a good teammate. "It's going to be a while before he ever wins MVP. I hate to say that, because it's MVP on the court, not MVP off the court."

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[wcsoldier]

^^^^ Webber speaks the truth... even if Sac and LAL hate each other, he's not a hater.. props to him

[Juronimo]

Kobe should have gotten it last year but Dirk should get it this year IMO. Dallas is scary good this year and Dirk has really elevated his game.

I was never a big fan of Dirk's game in the past, I never put him on Duncan/Garnett level but Dirk has really improved in all aspects of his game over the years. Dallas's play reflects that.

You have to take records into account when you consider the MVP argument. Our team has struggled mightily this season, much of that is injury related but part of that was just dropping games we should have won. Dallas OTOH is winning the games they're supposed to win.

Give it to Dirk. I'd rather see Kobe win a finals MVP. 

[Citizen-Y]

Kobe will have to settle for the scoring title this year unless the Lakers go against the odds and win out every game in the regular season to get 50 wins.

["THE" MoSav]

Dirk

[7even]

Kobe might be a lot of things this year, but not the MVP.

[FLACO220]

i think he deserves consideration but IMO Dirk is the MVP all laker bias aside

Hell no...the Mavs would function just fine without Dirk. That team is loaded. But the Lakers without Kobe? Come on now. I mean...yeah Dirk is nice but he's not as valuable as Kobe is.

[Now_Im_Not_Banned]

i think he deserves consideration but IMO Dirk is the MVP all laker bias aside

Hell no...the Mavs would function just fine without Dirk. That team is loaded. But the Lakers without Kobe? Come on now. I mean...yeah Dirk is nice but he's not as valuable as Kobe is.

I agree...I've seen Josh Howard take over for Dirk so many times.