Kobe for MVP (good read)

[Don Jacob]

^ and that's exactly why the powers that be that vote for the nba's mvp won't vote for kobe

they'll view kobe's 50 point plus games as him doing the most for kobe as apposed  to doing the most for the lakers. some peple were on espn talking about 'do the lakers need kobe to score that much to win?" ......now wether or not they do is another topic entirely, however, many of those analysts get that snow ball going about him scoring that much is more for selfish gain than team benefit, they'll point to the 3-1 laker lead over the suns in the playoffs as proof for their argument, which no doubt WILL effet the votes.

[7even]

Lakers just had a 7 game loss streak, in the middle of the season, with Kobe playing. They've got the 6th seed and won't get the 5th. Imo the team of the MVP should do better than that.

One shouldn't forget that there was a time in the season in which the Lakers did pretty good without Kobe scoring like crazy. Imo it's the trait of a young player to just score like crazy. A more mature player will know that taking 50 posessions a game will not take the team to another level, no matter how good he is.

Believe what you want but nobody, not even Kobe is good enough to score enough points by himself to get the W on a consistant basis. There has to be something that you can call a team there to make noise down the stretch of the season. Other players have to get their shots to get their hands hot etc.

Kobe is the best individual player in the NBA, but to me that doesn't justify him getting the MVP award for the reasons above.

[Antonio_]

I don't get it. Let's take the best SG's in the League ordered by points made.

Kobe Bryant 5.5 assist per game
D-Wade 7.9 assist
Michael Redd 2.4 assist
Ray Allen 4.1 assists
Joe Johnson 4.4 assists
Vince Carter 4.6 assists
Tracy McGrady 6.3 assists
Ben Gordon 3.6 assists
Kevin Martin 2.2 assists
Rip Hamilton 4.0 assists
Luol Deng 2.4 assists

Kobe is the 3rd best assist-man between the SG's who are in the top30 for scoring.
What i mean is that people looks obsessed by the number of his assists more than about the points he scored to help the team to get the win.
But i've NEVER heard people talking bad about Redd, Allen, Johnson, Carter, Gordon, Martin, Hamilton, Deng etc.. because of their lack of assists per game.
So what's the deal?

It looks like pure hate to me.

P.S. I know, some of the guys listed ain't pure SG's, but i added them in the mix anyway.

[Antonio_]

Lakers just had a 7 game loss streak, in the middle of the season, with Kobe playing. They've got the 6th seed and won't get the 5th. Imo the team of the MVP should do better than that.

One shouldn't forget that there was a time in the season in which the Lakers did pretty good without Kobe scoring like crazy. Imo it's the trait of a young player to just score like crazy. A more mature player will know that taking 50 posessions a game will not take the team to another level, no matter how good he is.

Believe what you want but nobody, not even Kobe is good enough to score enough points by himself to get the W on a consistant basis. There has to be something that you can call a team there to make noise down the stretch of the season. Other players have to get their shots to get their hands hot etc.

Kobe is the best individual player in the NBA, but to me that doesn't justify him getting the MVP award for the reasons above.

Try another excuse.

Kobe Bryant 28 years old = 26.7 shots per game
Michael Jordan 29 years old = 28.6 shots per game
Michael Jordan 30 years old = 28.6 shots per game
Michael Jordan 31 years old = injured
Michael Jordan 32 years old = 25.7 shots per game
Michael Jordan 33 years old = 26.7 shots per game
Michael Jordan 34 years old = 24.6 shots per game
Michael Jordan 38 years old = 23.0 shots per game (he wasn't a starter no more)
Michael Jodan 39 years old = 19.2 shots per game

He shot less, yeah. When he was 39 years old, but just because he drastically reduced his minutes per game.

Once again it looks like pure hate to me.

[wcsoldier]

One shouldn't forget that there was a time in the season in which the Lakers did pretty good without Kobe scoring like crazy.

Yeah when we HAD the full roster... things are we've lost so many players that we started to seriously fall down in the standing... it was time for Kobe to takeover... but I guess people would still prefer a Kobe dropping 30--7-7 and the Lakers still losing games  ... I ain't even waste time to argue no more..

[Antonio_]

One shouldn't forget that there was a time in the season in which the Lakers did pretty good without Kobe scoring like crazy.

Yeah when we HAD the full roster... things are we've lost so many players that we started to seriously fall down in the standing... it was time for Kobe to takeover... but I guess people would still prefer a Kobe dropping 30--7-7 and the Lakers still losing games  ... I ain't even waste time to argue no more..

Man actually that proves the arguments about Kobe deserving the MVP. I mean when we had the full roster and people who were able to play basketball, he was averaging 6+ assists per game (at one point he had 6.6 assist per game, with games with 10, 11, 13 assists..) and sharing the ball. He was defending BETTER than any other big star in the NBA and he was winning. When the team got destroyed by injures and the team was falling down, he took it over his shoulders and Lakers now have a 4-wins-in-a-row-streak, the 2nd longest winning streak of the NBA at the moment.

People just hate Kobe AND the Lakers.

[wcsoldier]

One shouldn't forget that there was a time in the season in which the Lakers did pretty good without Kobe scoring like crazy.

People just hate Kobe AND the Lakers.

Yeah and/or they don't watch Lakers game ... they just say what they heard or read by BSPN and others biased medias ... Kobe makes it look so easy that there is a lot of jealousy

[7even]

Lakers just had a 7 game loss streak, in the middle of the season, with Kobe playing. They've got the 6th seed and won't get the 5th. Imo the team of the MVP should do better than that.

One shouldn't forget that there was a time in the season in which the Lakers did pretty good without Kobe scoring like crazy. Imo it's the trait of a young player to just score like crazy. A more mature player will know that taking 50 posessions a game will not take the team to another level, no matter how good he is.

Believe what you want but nobody, not even Kobe is good enough to score enough points by himself to get the W on a consistant basis. There has to be something that you can call a team there to make noise down the stretch of the season. Other players have to get their shots to get their hands hot etc.

Kobe is the best individual player in the NBA, but to me that doesn't justify him getting the MVP award for the reasons above.

Try another excuse.

Kobe Bryant 28 years old = 26.7 shots per game
Michael Jordan 29 years old = 28.6 shots per game
Michael Jordan 30 years old = 28.6 shots per game
Michael Jordan 31 years old = injured
Michael Jordan 32 years old = 25.7 shots per game
Michael Jordan 33 years old = 26.7 shots per game
Michael Jordan 34 years old = 24.6 shots per game
Michael Jordan 38 years old = 23.0 shots per game (he wasn't a starter no more)
Michael Jodan 39 years old = 19.2 shots per game

He shot less, yeah. When he was 39 years old, but just because he drastically reduced his minutes per game.

Once again it looks like pure hate to me.

Overall Kobe takes a right amount of shots this year. I'm just saying that his last games, no matter how outstanding and great they were, don't give him a major boost towards being MVP in my book.

[Antonio_]

Man he took 34 shots in 47 minutes in the last game. Not 50. It's just 7 shots more than his average. But he made 50 points, and the team won.

[7even]

Yeah holmes, but you can count most of them FT as possessions as well. Kobe is a very great player, one should just not call him the MVP suddenly, just because of 4 great scoring games, that's all I'm "hating".

[Antonio_]

He is the MVP from at least 2 seasons.

[Now_Im_Not_Banned]

^ and that's exactly why the powers that be that vote for the nba's mvp won't vote for kobe

they'll view kobe's 50 point plus games as him doing the most for kobe as apposed  to doing the most for the lakers. some peple were on espn talking about 'do the lakers need kobe to score that much to win?" ......now wether or not they do is another topic entirely, however, many of those analysts get that snow ball going about him scoring that much is more for selfish gain than team benefit, they'll point to the 3-1 laker lead over the suns in the playoffs as proof for their argument, which no doubt WILL effet the votes.

Well, then that's just moronic on their behalf...If they can't see that Kobe is willing his team to victories, and they choose to hate on that, then they don't even deserve to be journalists to begin with. Not that most journalists do anyways...

[Now_Im_Not_Banned]

Lakers just had a 7 game loss streak, in the middle of the season, with Kobe playing. They've got the 6th seed and won't get the 5th. Imo the team of the MVP should do better than that.

One shouldn't forget that there was a time in the season in which the Lakers did pretty good without Kobe scoring like crazy. Imo it's the trait of a young player to just score like crazy. A more mature player will know that taking 50 posessions a game will not take the team to another level, no matter how good he is.

Believe what you want but nobody, not even Kobe is good enough to score enough points by himself to get the W on a consistant basis. There has to be something that you can call a team there to make noise down the stretch of the season. Other players have to get their shots to get their hands hot etc.

Kobe is the best individual player in the NBA, but to me that doesn't justify him getting the MVP award for the reasons above.

Dude, come on now...Lakers went on that losing streak with 3 of their starters out. It's no coincidence that Kobe went on this spurt exactly when Luke and Odom returned...They're both looking great as the co-stars...

[GangstaBoogy]

Lakers just had a 7 game loss streak, in the middle of the season, with Kobe playing. They've got the 6th seed and won't get the 5th. Imo the team of the MVP should do better than that.

One shouldn't forget that there was a time in the season in which the Lakers did pretty good without Kobe scoring like crazy. Imo it's the trait of a young player to just score like crazy. A more mature player will know that taking 50 posessions a game will not take the team to another level, no matter how good he is.

Believe what you want but nobody, not even Kobe is good enough to score enough points by himself to get the W on a consistant basis. There has to be something that you can call a team there to make noise down the stretch of the season. Other players have to get their shots to get their hands hot etc.

Kobe is the best individual player in the NBA, but to me that doesn't justify him getting the MVP award for the reasons above.

Try another excuse.

Kobe Bryant 28 years old = 26.7 shots per game
Michael Jordan 29 years old = 28.6 shots per game
Michael Jordan 30 years old = 28.6 shots per game
Michael Jordan 31 years old = injured
Michael Jordan 32 years old = 25.7 shots per game
Michael Jordan 33 years old = 26.7 shots per game
Michael Jordan 34 years old = 24.6 shots per game
Michael Jordan 38 years old = 23.0 shots per game (he wasn't a starter no more)
Michael Jodan 39 years old = 19.2 shots per game

He shot less, yeah. When he was 39 years old, but just because he drastically reduced his minutes per game.

Once again it looks like pure hate to me.

Lol THANK YOU! I love how people think Jordan was the best scorer, rebounder, passer, 3 point shooter, dunker, shot blocker, and everything else just cuz he's retired. He was a top 5 player not doubt, but I don't see a big difference in his style of play and Kobe's style of play.

[Now_Im_Not_Banned]

Lakers just had a 7 game loss streak, in the middle of the season, with Kobe playing. They've got the 6th seed and won't get the 5th. Imo the team of the MVP should do better than that.

One shouldn't forget that there was a time in the season in which the Lakers did pretty good without Kobe scoring like crazy. Imo it's the trait of a young player to just score like crazy. A more mature player will know that taking 50 posessions a game will not take the team to another level, no matter how good he is.

Believe what you want but nobody, not even Kobe is good enough to score enough points by himself to get the W on a consistant basis. There has to be something that you can call a team there to make noise down the stretch of the season. Other players have to get their shots to get their hands hot etc.

Kobe is the best individual player in the NBA, but to me that doesn't justify him getting the MVP award for the reasons above.

Try another excuse.

Kobe Bryant 28 years old = 26.7 shots per game
Michael Jordan 29 years old = 28.6 shots per game
Michael Jordan 30 years old = 28.6 shots per game
Michael Jordan 31 years old = injured
Michael Jordan 32 years old = 25.7 shots per game
Michael Jordan 33 years old = 26.7 shots per game
Michael Jordan 34 years old = 24.6 shots per game
Michael Jordan 38 years old = 23.0 shots per game (he wasn't a starter no more)
Michael Jodan 39 years old = 19.2 shots per game

He shot less, yeah. When he was 39 years old, but just because he drastically reduced his minutes per game.

Once again it looks like pure hate to me.

Lol THANK YOU! I love how people think Jordan was the best scorer, rebounder, passer, 3 point shooter, dunker, shot blocker, and everything else just cuz he's retired. He was a top 5 player not doubt, but I don't see a big difference in his style of play and Kobe's style of play.

I see a difference...Kobe has RANGE.